2238:. To those who say the template is "politically motivated"--has it become so easy to slander intentions? If the Soviet presence in, say, Latvia is reputably deemed (based on verifiable evidence) to have been occupied (it, and other countries), then how is grouping Soviet occupations together for navigation "politically motivated?" It's become all to easy on the part of some to label everything as POV and politically motivated that simply seeks to present reputably sourced, factually verifiable accounts of historic events. Meanwhile, we appear to accept statements (with reference to Soviet occupation in the Baltics/Eastern Europe) that it's hard to tell a denier of Soviet liberation from a "real Nazi"? Am I the only one here to ask what happened to writing/contending anything based on sources? By the logic some present here, everything written by any Baltic/Eastern European editor that documents "occupation" is summarily dismissed as "politically motivated". Have you no shame?
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1819:- that is the nth stage of conflict resolution via deletion procedures. User's behaviour is not sufficient basis for deletion. "Sviet occupation" is a widely accepted term in Eastern Europe matters. If some links don't belong in the navigational template, resolve it on its talk page.
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for similar templates. Indiscriminate template. The teammates a player played with in any given season is not a defining characteristic. For players and teams that win multiple titles, their articles would be overwhelmed by these templates. Also, basically redundant to
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As with the below noms for other cartoon templates, this template should be deleted as unnecessary; it only has links to the character list, episode list, and links to two other episodes which should not have separate articles. —
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Is this acceptable or have I, as an Anti-American nationalist, created it because I want to portray the United States as a power-hungry land-grabbing nation of belligerent war-mongerers?
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