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diffuse it. The stated reason is because it is too big. So there is three ways to go here. 1) You can chop it into pieces and diffuse it, 2) you can chop it into pieces and not diffuse it or 3)you can just leave it as a big category. If you diffuse it (#1), you loose the ability to browse through all comedy films. If you do subcategorizations and not diffuse it, you at least double all the categories for each film. Worse than that, people will start categories like "Comedy films by nationality", "Comedy films by year", "Comedy films by director", etc... You might end up with dozens of "Comedy film" categories for each film. This would add a tremendous amount of category clutter. So I'm advocating option #3. Just leave it alone and avoid category intersections. For every topic, we would designate the index level for the topic, and then (usually) only go one level below the index level. Both the index level and the sub-index level would be fully populated. "Films" would be an index level. Now I'm not advocating that all these films be included at higher "topic" levels. The topic levels are about topics and not about individual instances of the topic. This is the difference between

2963:. Most of the articles in this category belong in category Science. If some of them belong and some of them don't this tag is no help. Each high level category, like "Science" needs some specific instructions that help people understand what belongs and what doesn't. Slapping these all with "diffuse", which means nothing to the average person, just makes the category look bad while giving no real instruction about what should happen. Also, I think there are two things going on here. There are top level topic categories that are general topics, and there are also articles about the general topics. That is all well and good. But then lower down there are lower level index categories that are perfectly fine categories, worthy of being populated. But whenever they get big they get divided up. What will be the result if we continue in this direction? The only categories that we will be able to browse will be microscopic in their scope. Why do we assume that everyone wants to browse this way? Some people don't know what they are looking for. That is the definition of browsing. In our system the only way to browse is to know what you are looking for first. -- 3897:. Samuel makes some good points here. At the moment, the category system could go in one of two ways. We could (a) carefully categorise the most relevant points as single tags, and then combine them through intersection, or (b) overcategorise and then rebuild the lists using the category structure and hoping that all articles in subcategories are actually related to the categories several layers up. I favour approach (a), and deleting this category would help prevent overcategorisation. It should, in any case, only be used on genuinely large categories that can be rebuilt from the contents of their subcategories. I suggest using "what links here" on the template, and removing it where it shouldn't be used. That would help. Again, one of the major problems is not being able to point to the 'final' version of what we are talking about. If we could compare the two approaches for a small area, this might help. 3193:

us hadn't even heard of Knowledge two years ago! We do it because we think it improves navigability. You are the one that is living in the past - the first days of the category system when it wasn't detailed because it was immature and frankly just crap. I remember when I first read Knowledge, before I had an account, one had to use the search box to find most things because the category system was hopeless, and that is what I have been helping to fix. You know as well as I do that you are in a small minority on this matter and as far as I know you are in a minority of one in having such an extreme preference for vast categories. Please drop this hobby horse and move onto something more useful.

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category I wanted by manually generating a list. Do you see the point I am making? People focus their interest at different levels, and we should provide the tools and options to generate categories and alphabetical indices at different levels, and with different levels of discrimination (between details and an overall picture). Ideally, the normal encyclopedia categorisation would be set at a compromise level reached by consensus, and then people can use tools to go beyond that. Either: (a) unify categories to generate a larger view, or (b) intersect categories to find articles common to both. Ultimately, both should be possible.

1986:- If you look at the amount of users that 'speak' konyo, you'll find that it's not just something the user made out of the blue. It's not offensive in the Philippines and I don't think the user who created the template should be warned. It just refers to the Filipino upper-class and their way of speaking. By the way, I couldn't disagree more with Dgies statement. It's more like the Filipino equivalent of Valley Girl... Well, if the phrase 'Valley Girl' had a swear word in it, at least. Konyo could be considered more of a 'language' than 'bullshit'... Anyways, I say userfy it, pare! 3020:"films". If you don't want to browse through "films", you go over to "films by type" or "films by year" and find the subcategorization you are looking for. You'd have a choice. What we do now is we take a category that is an index of a subject and decide to break it into small pieces and turn the original category (the index) into a navigation category. Instead of that, we could just leave the original index alone and create a new navigation category. This way you could have a choice. Look at the big topic or look at the smaller subdivision. 3352:. I really want to have a discussion about this. Even if this is kept, what can be done about it to make this template better, to better explain what should happen and why, to keep it from being applied wholesale to any category that gets large. Please, don't just say "keep" and ignore my concerns. I really think this is a serious problem and it will just get worse unless we address it. Also, I hope people will browse through German Knowledge. I think they have a much better handle on this than we do. -- 4007:. Such alphabetical index lists allow us to look at both the big picture (all articles) and the detailed picture (how to organise those articles). My method of generating an alphabetical index list involves using the Category Scan tool I linked too (though as a toolserver tool that suffers from database replication lag), but I'd appreciate it, as a matter of editor-to-editor courtesy, if you would share your methods as well. That way we can both work to improve the encyclopedia, instead of throwing needless 3704:

frustrated when Film directors got broken up into categories by nationality. To counteract that developement, I created Film Directors by language. At least I'd be able to look at all the English language film directors in one place. Now there is talk of dividing that category up. A question for everyone here: At what point do we say it doesn't matter how big some category gets, whatever size it is we're not going to depopulated it? Are we going to end up with

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categorization. We should decide if the extra categorization is needed. If too many categories are being added, it is often because too many subcategories are being added. We cannot assume that just because we come up with a scheme for subcategorization that this will be useful or helpful to the majority of people who use Knowledge. This practice has to be reined in. Deleting this template and the associated category would be a start.

4062:? Personally, all I can tell is that they start with a B. Imagine the category "Earthquakes" with hundreds of titles like that. While I will accept that it would be somehow useful to you, I propose that you are a rara avis. How do I generate such a list? I'm a humble manual mouse, I click through subcategories for what I want. And yet, in 9 cases out of 10, for 99 people (or mice) out of 100, having subcategories is much more useful. 3741:. Some categories contain thousands of articles. In these extreme cases I find it hard to imagine who will browse through the category looking for related information - if useful subcategories can be created then these would be clear candidates for diffusion. Whilst it is possible to over-extend the level of subcategorization, I have yet to see this template applied to a small category which has unjustifiably tiny subcategories. 3158:. How is anyone supposed to understand what belongs and what doesn't from reading this template? Can any general purpose template explain which articles belong in this category and which belong in the subcategory? I'm working on a proposal to replace template like this one with more user friendly ones that help people understand what is in the category. I'd be happy if anyone would like to help. Please take a look at 2525:. Really though, I would prefer to not have any license template named "Free Use" (even as a redirect) since your average Knowledge editor seems to easily confuse "Free Use" with "Fair Use". I would prefer that we delete it outright. If someone does recreate the template, I would just nominate it for deletion again. The fact that someone might recreate the template is not a very good argument against deletion, IMO. 2438:. It has been a very problematic template due to vague wording and frequent confusion between the meaning of "free use" and "fair use". The consensus of all discussions of its fate so far have been to dispense with it in favor of better-worded alternatives. Migration of all transclusions was approved in November and finally completed this week. Please see discussion 2611:- So you disregarded procedures and deleted an image without notifying the uploader on his talk page. If you took more then 5 minutes to look at the page you would have seen that I am Shawn Clark, and I can changed the license on the image by request when the page it was on came up for FA nomination. You are exactly the type of admins that are ruining Knowledge. 3962:. Do you want to thoroughly peruse Knowledge's detailed coverage of all earthquakes known to science? Well, then you're going to have to click around 20 subcategories - but then you're going to want to be reading hundreds of articles anyway, so I'm not going to apologize too much for making you read 20 more category pages in addition. 1444:- In the previous TfD I advocated giving leeway if it was trimmed to include only chapters which had an article that asserted notability. Upon closer inspection, must bluelinks are redirects and there are only perhaps two notable chapters; therefore this template is unnecessary and will encourage vanity articles. — 2917:

has to be put to rest. There is no reason that a category cannot be ANY size. If the topic is big, you can break it down to smaller pieces if those are useful and help people browse through similar articles. However, we should make the decisions about category groupings based solely on utility. The question is

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with every film article in Knowledge. We have oodles of subcategories for subcategorizations of film, we have Films by nationality, by language, by director, by genre, etc... There are dozens of these sub-classificaitons. All of these are just fine categories and they should all be fully populated.

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I am not advocating that we stop categorizing with precision. I am just saying that wholesale diffusion of useful categories should not happen. I am making a distinction between a) the diffusion of categories into smaller sub-categories and b) simply creating new sub-categories and populating them

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This template, and the associated category are a bad idea. They give the impression that all big categories must be diffused into smaller ones. This is not true (though it is very common unquestioned assumption). BIG CATEGORIES ARE NOT BAD. I've specifically asked Brion (who manages the WIkipedia

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Okay, this is a "current events" template of sorts, but it's very under-used. When I found it, it was used on just 3 articles, and had been on each of them for over a month, so I removed it. The template as worded could apply to basically tens of thousands of topics... "This article documents subject

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is a start, but not enough. You also seem to miss the point about how both systems can be useful. Sometimes I think, hmm, I want such-and-such a category, and I go looking and find it. Othertimes I find the category I was looking for has been diffused into numerous subcats, and I have to rebuild the

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is another example - all it tells me is that anti-communists are of various nationalities, which I knew already. If the parent category listed all the articles in its subcats automatically (on the top page), that would be fine; or at least gave some idea of how many anti-communists are hiding in the

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You see this as a black and white issue and that is your right. I may be in a minority, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I am wrong. You seem to think that having large categories will somehow make it impossible to have specific ones, and that is not what I am advocating at all, and it never

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Samuel you keep repeating this claim that we only have detailed categories because of a collective memory of a technical issue from two years ago but it is complete and utter rubbish. There must be thousands of people who have contributed to moving towards a more detailed category system and most of

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topic of American History. It adds information to put a specific Civil War battle in a category about "American Civil War battles" and not in "American History". The article has a "X is a Y" relationship with the "Civil War battles" category. My point again, is that unlike our present situation,

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If you've followed what I'm saying thus far, I'm saying that the index categories, like "films" should not be diffused. I've already mentioned that the higher level topic categories are not helped by this template either. In those cases some of the articles belong and some don't and the template

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that says you must diffuse large categories into smaller ones. I'm sure of this because I wrote the most recent overhaul of the guidelines. The idea that every large category must be broken down into tiny subcategories is archaic. It is a hold-over from Knowledge culture from two years ago that

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Public domaining an image, has different legal consequences then a person maintaining the copyright of an image but allowing all free usage of the image. Also changing the copyright status without asking to the author is asking for trouble, particularly when the image permission was obtained from a

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Continuing with the "film" example. We now have dozens of those subcategories by film type or year, all populated, which is just fine. Over time, some of them have grown quite big. For example "Comedy films" has about 4000 films in it. There's a move to chop this category into small pieces and

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What we need is more people making an effort to categorize with precision and the benefit of lateral thinking. This is an excellent template. The promise that software intersection on the fly would be added to the software shortly has been around as long as I have known Knowledge so it is anyone's

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change or remove image copyright tags, as whatever the copyright holder uploaded as, is the legal statement. One should never retroactively changed a legal declaration. If somebody makes a legal declaration of copyright release, then either that release is adequate (leave it alone) or inadequate

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it. Besides, that was created during a time when using actual language codes still was not important to WP, seeing that templates for Southern Californian (whose description went something like, “Dude… this user… like… speaks English… dude…”), etc. existed. Which brings me to ask: What about those

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for a recent CfD (School massacres), you can select "show all articles" as the filter option, and get a reasonable list there. Category Tree, as that page says, has been implemented on Knowledge, but "show all articles" hasn't. That funtions would really help, and is probably closer than Category

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A flat "view" of a category would alter the whole discussion (as would intersections on the fly). I agree that both (essentially unions of subcats or intersections of supercats) are software issues, but have no idea how easy either might be. Many thanks for the terminology - it is exactly what I

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is no longer populated? It has been diffued into Canadian writers by type. Why can't I browse through all Canadian writers? What if I don't care if they write novels, plays, or poetry? I'm proposing that we pick a general and specific level for all these categories and stick with them. I got

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directly populated by films, it is not mine. You do not speak for the masses, but only for yourself, and your views are eccentric as this discussion shows. Knowledge has far too many films for that to make sense or be useful and in any case the contents of subcategories are the population of the

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to see if there is already a better, more specific category. That is different than people specifically thinking we don't need the subcategories. I agree that sometimes it would be very useful to see a flat, sorted list of all articles in all subcategories of a given category, or to be able to

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It is also great that we can offer all the subcategorizations like "films directed by John Ford" and "Australian films". So are these precise enough? The precision involved is putting each film into the subcategories that it belongs. I'm all in favor. On top of that I'd also like it to be in

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High time we got rid of this, copyright issues are confusing enough without this. Some people just see "copyrighted" and use it on everyting, others just see "free" and use it on everyting they didn't pay for, and then there are the free/fair confusion and "with permission" mess mentioned above.

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I'll need to tread carefully to avoid having to apologise again! "...look over a contents index and see if anything looks interesting." is not a tremendously focused goal - can you really tell that much from a long alphabetized list of article titles? Which of these "looks interesting" to you:

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per everybody and their brother. As so many write, when, in the by and by, super duper software becomes available to do everything, it may just as easily become available for doing sub-category intersection, not a noticeably harder problem. Meanwhile, having smaller categories is not only more

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Samuel Wantman is quite wrong to suggest that this template orders people to remove all articles regardless of the appropriateness of doing so. It is perfectly clear that it actually simply requests that they remove them when appropriate. I am troubled by Samuel's apparent lack of trust in the

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is an example of where this template makes a lot of sense. If I had to guess, I'd say we have in excess of 1,000 articles related to Microsoft "stuff", spread across dozens of categories. If you have a look at the contents of the category now, it's picked up a number of articles that, while

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What everyone seems to be missing is that many of these categories get "silted up" because people want to have these categories populated. It is the natural inclination to have categories like "Films" populated with films! Why do we keep fighting the masses on this? I am talking about only

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on the fly. If we do want to have smaller subcategories, the larger ones do not necessarily need to be depopulated. If they were useful groupings when they were small they remain useful groupings when they get big. The large category should remain, and the smaller ones should duplicate the

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Comments: I have no great objection to deletion. But I also see no benefit, to this standard practice of removing "commonly misused" tags, which merely encourages people to misuse other tags, which in-turn, become less reliable. It used to be you could pretty much predict which images were

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What would be so terrible if we had "Australian people" and all the subcategories as well? It would add a single category to each persons article and you'd be able to see a complete index of Australian people. If navigation to the subcategories is difficult, you could create an additional

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seems to suggest a consensus to delete. It is only being used on 3 chapter articles, there are about 7 redirects in there, and the rest are 200+ red links. The template's sole purpose is to encourage the creation of articles on individual chapters of the fraternity which are almost always

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Yes, it has a great deal to do with trust. I don't doubt that you are acting in good faith so your accusation is out of place. But I think you have misguided ideas about where we need to get to and a lack of trust in the ability of others to make the right decisions about how to get there.

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Chibi means Runt and it is not slang. Its slang amoung anime fandom though. Any one familer with sailor Moon knows this defintly and many other fans know this. and remember its for SM only . Also we always use the JP version over the buchery they call a dub at the project. It is staying...

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to push the idea that duplicate categorization and/or pulling away from differentiating categories would be at all a positive development. If category intersections are in the works, then we can figure out how to revise our category scheme when that is in place; in the meantime, this is

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At the same time, I'm saying that it is perfectly reasonable to also have a category called "films" where you could browse through all the film articles. In book form, this would be called an INDEX. If you look at a book with film reviews there will be an index of all films.

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meant. (The relatively recent 'tree' view of cats was an advance.) Sorry - I missed your earlier comtribution above while glancing through - this is quite a long discussion, amongst many other long discussions. (And is an overwhelming keep, so my own vote is immaterial.)

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This category is very friendly and people can use their own judgement. I trust them to do that, but you seem to feel that we need cast iron rules for the classification each article in a particular field. We don't, Knowledge is organic and constantly improving.

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Um, the problem is that most WP users don't speak Japanese. Just because you look up Sailor Moon in an encyclopedia doesn't mean you already know everything about it, right? Sticking to English is standard WP policy, and for the creator to insist that one word

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As I noted in my earlier vote, showing a "flat" view of a category, or your suggestion of adding an annotation to indicate how many pages are children of a category, are software issues. Those are easy to fix mechanically because it requires only

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and about 200 redlinks; the few articles it did have have now been deleted either via AFD or via CSD A7 (failing to assert notability). Then I noticed it was at TFD, so instead will suggest that we close and delete this as soon as is suitable.

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Thank-you for the apology. On my part, I'm sorry if I reacted too strongly to your asking me why I wanted such a list. May I still ask how you generate such lists? Returning to the actual categorisation discussion, surely the ideal is for

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It has nothing to do with trust. Please assume good faith. I'm trying to make the categorization system easier to use and easier to understand. In practice, many categories often get totally depopulated after this template is added. --

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This terminology is far too confusing for new users. Effectively obsoleted by NoRightsReserved anyway, which also has the benefit of being much clearer terminology. "CopyrightedFreeUse" means "I found it on a public internet server" to a

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category on Knowledge. Putting articles in the most specific category possible allows for maximum flexibility of the software in customizing the category display for individual user preferences. But putting articles in subcategories

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practical or navigational benefit to having a single undifferentiated writers category that includes every single person on Knowledge who ever wrote a book, regardless of their nationality or their literary genre; there is a

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various branches (or is it roots?). In some of these supercats one has dig down about 10 levels before finding an article - I use 'search', or google, not categories, to find anything. I expect to find anti-communists in

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article doing there??" kind of thing. The example here probably was too broad, and it also includes non-Earthquake articles because of the vagaries of the categorisation system, but seriously, any useful encyclopedia

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May 15th, 2005, that image was uploaded in 2004. Images uploaded before then can only be speedy deleted if they aren't used in any article. Don't let anger of someone opposing a deletion get in the way of procedures.

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and close discussion asap per Proto - it's a navigation template with nothing but red links and redirects to the same page. There's no possible use for it. It seems like further discussion would be pointless.

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search all articles in a category and its subcategories -- but those issues ought to be handled by software. Humans ought to concentrate on categorization issues that can't be handled mechanically. :-)

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servers) about this and he says there is no technical reason that we have to break up big categories into small ones. We have category table of contents that can help us navigate through big categories {{

3388:. I suppose keeping this template because it does it can help us move to better categorization, but its use really needs to be limited to major "parent" categories that routinely collect new articles. 3975:

the reasons are that I want to browse an alphabetical index of Knowledge's earthquake articles. I don't want to read all of them, just look over a contents index and see if anything looks interesting.

4114:. I have nothing against keeping track of categories that tend to get overpopulated. However, there should be a list on a project page instead of a bunch of ugly tags on the individual categories. 2921:

Many large and huge categories are just fine and do not need to be broken down any smaller. Smaller intersections are also not necessary. Eventually, the software will add the capability of adding

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and create suitable guidelines for use. The fact that this template is applied too much—or in the wrong places—doesn't mean that there aren't cases (particularly top-level categories such as

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only when the primary subject of the article is itself a "current event." Even so, there will likely continue to be a significant yet tolerable amount of inaccurate use of all of these. -

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I agree for the most part, although in this case the wording is so vague it seems we must guess as to the uploader's intentions regardless of whether we change the tag or not.

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But what about here and now? Can you give me a list of all the earthquake articles we have? Can you give me a list of all the hurricane articles we have? If you look at

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Wantman has a point, I suppose. Nevertheless this template seems to be useful for categories that should only contain subcategories that get silted up with articles.

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more specific subcategories. Once CI is in place, and subcategorization can be automatically handled by the server automatically searching for set intersections

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copyvios based on what tag they had (e.g. almost all of certain tags were bad, and the bulk of certain other tags were good). Also, in principal, we should

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to provide browsing for state highway systems across Interstate and U.S. route pages. They have since been deprecated by a full set of "XX browse" templates (

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I'm going to answer all these points. The problem is that this tag gives no indication of what should be in the category and what should be diffused. Take

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topics should be in the most specific categories. If you look in "American history" all the subcategories and articles should be directly related to the

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I agree that long contents lists are often uninteresting and uninformative, but they can be useful to help keep a category area under control - "what's

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of through manual category creation, index categorization will make more sense, but as long as we still have to manually create a separate category for

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that we have more specific subcategories for many things. For instance, there's absolutely no reason why any writer should ever be filed directly in

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a list of all the earthquake articles we have? Do you want to read an exhaustive, but necessarily brief, list of all earthquakes known to science?

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to the main article to reference that chapter—and to explain the notability of the chapter and its history. I see no need to keep this template. —

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The national categories can or should enable you to find those articles from the national people, politics and history categories, whereas if

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of practical benefit to subclassifying writers by their cultural context and subject matter. Any category that could simultaneously include

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categories named X where each article Y is an X. This does not include broad topics like Art, Science, American History, etc... Articles

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per nominator. The issue of license tagging is hard enough to figure out as it is without superfluous and old templates floating around.

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if someone really wants it ... if this language doesn't actually exist and is only a profane template, why keep it in template space? --

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Quick, since I last looked an actual anti-communist has appeared. Hide him, he (or she) must have some nationality, or if not we need

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reason for subcategorization that aids readability and navigability. When such a concern exists, this template makes a lot of sense.

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be diffused into sub-cats, just ones in which this template is applied. And one can always discuss on the related talk page. -

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matter currently covered by prominent news source(s)." After reflecting I've decided this template isn't really different than

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has one and needs one; most articles in that category should be diffused into subcategories. However, I agree with some

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template which is a much better version of the license you are describing. As for the PD v. Free use issue, please see

1375: 541: 524: 486: 167: 3827:, by himself. So Banda is not now grouped with anyone else, so I don't find any similar articles. Another example is 3609: 3142: 2499: 2476: 2374: 2336: 1248: 886: 4607: 4558: 1616: 1318: 1280: 4754: 4624: 4228:). Aside from contributing to the template-crustification of web browser articles, what purpose does this serve? -- 1335: 772: 734: 4392: 4196: 3110: 2599:

so that they can be deleted as well, and, if this template is not deleted, do not use it like this in the future.

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wrt to the bolded part of the introduction, I like to be able to look for articles in small and sharp categories.

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Nice to meet you too. Noncommercial licensed images, regardless of what boilerplate may be put on the page, meet

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