Knowledge (XXG)

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810:- Troll 3 is not mentioned in both Troll and Troll 2 and they seem to be all separate works. However, the wording in Troll should be fixed, since Troll 2 did try to link back to Troll. So delete it for now, but once there is more clarification on the linking of these movies and possibly some soundtracks, games and other works of Troll, the template can be added back. - 1076:"Americans are crude" isn't a controversial opinion, it's an insult. I am completely shocked by people's willingness to ignore this, as it goes so blatantly against an attitude of general camaraderie. Honestly, this is really just sickening. I think I'm done here. I'm not going to be a part of a community that sanctions nationalistic attacks like this. 1016:
people because of the place of their birth or upbringing so much to ask? Knowledge (XXG) isn't the town square, where everyone needs to have their chance to speak as they will, but rather a professional environment with rules of politeness to ensure things get done. This template simply goes against that spirit.
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These templates are throwbacks to when inserting multimedia on WP was rare and difficult. They've always had stacking issues, are complicated to use and produce icky output markup. In contrast, using simple image tags (with the frame or thumbnail attribute if a caption is required) is solidly-tested,
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Surely the template doesn't say that Americans are crude, but that the hypothetical "this user" would see the usage of American English as crude. It's a shame that there was apparently no attempt to discuss this issue or tone down the comment. It seems likely that a less problematic form of words
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So, you're saying "get over it"? Just because you don't mind a nationalistic dig doesn't mean other people won't. I find it offensive. Is the right to make broadly-construed nationalistic insults (Calling the American use of language crude is just that) really so important? Is not poking fun of
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between "harmless expression of a nevertheless potentially controversial opinion" and "needless antagonism". This userbox is on the "harmless" side of that line. Incidentally, the elimination of American English would greatly benefit the Commonwealth's export of the letter "U", which would be
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tells us to avoid rudeness, insults, and judgmental tones. While users can be forgiven for violating those rules in the heat of the moment, there is no reason to enshrine those inappropriate sentiments in a lasting template (even if it is in userspace).
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Looking at the previous nomination for deletion, we see it was initially created as a retort to an American equivalent, which has since been deleted for being divisive. I see no reason not to follow that example here.
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but create an equivalent opposing view template, saying "This user believes that American English is the only real English, and is likely to respond to any use of British English with "how archaic!" ~
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While generally userboxes seem to be useful or friendly information about a user's desires or capabilities, this one is deliberately offensive to Americans. It has no place in a civil environment.
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Make no mistake, this is a nationalist insult, indicating that an entire nation's use of language is crude. That kind of attitude does nothing positive for Knowledge (XXG).
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Maybe it's just me, but IMO the current wording is deliberately meant to convey a stereotypical English condescension. See the similar
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since it is very true that many millions of Americans (and other people too) speak English in a terrible way. --
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doesn't have layout issues and produces clean markup. None of these templates is used on articlespace any more.
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back in July and no one joined. These banners aren't needed since the project never got off the ground.
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If we've got to pretend it all sounds the same, does this mean us Brits shouldn't laugh anymore when
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the template aren't actually related. So how can it be a trilogy and what use would a navbox be?
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below.
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with a simple image tag on those talk and user pages where it still finds use - then deletion.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below.
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Redundant template for indicating shared IP address for one school. We already have
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
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when you're done. Sorry I can't take the time to do this maintenance myself.
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extremely beneficial in this time of impending recession.
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Should we replace this template with SharedIPEDU then? --
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Templates for deletion
Log
November 5
November 7
Template:CTK
deletion review
SharedIPEDU
db-xfd
Happy
melon
18:26, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Template:CTK
talk
history
transclusions
logs
subpages
Template:SharedIPEDU
Amatulić
talk
19:17, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Terraxos
talk
18:01, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Magioladitis
talk
01:25, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
deletion review
Template:Multi-video start
deletion review

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