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614:- The templates used at WP:TIMET clearly reflect the guidance to provide sources specifically related with historical timelines or chronologically described facts. That is the main purpose of the project and the templates accomplish such a purpose. These are not accessory templates but the main tools of the project and therefore needed for its goal. The proposal by Vanished user, including the incongruent 746:- This template refers specifically to the kind of source that must be added. It provides clear guidance and adds to clarity and reliability of sourcing. If not used, a source can be mentioned, responding to the more general "fact" request, that doesn't provide a timeline reliable source. It is specific and needed as well as a clear and easy to follow guidance. 618:
perspective, are part of a discrediting campaign driven by Vanished user against the project. It seems that this is one more action based on Cuerden's animosity against editors who happen to be WP:TIMET members but who contradict him on their own and not as representatives of this project. Vanished
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Reviewing the article after the complaint I must agree that it is not absolutely necessary at that point. However, far from pedantry it is plain excessive look for detail, please always assume good faith. Nevertheless the usefulness of the template stands
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is nothing more than mindless pedantry. The detail (including the timeframe) is elaborated on at length with citations in the article. Is it really necessary to provide a citation for every niggling detail at every point in the article?
631:. Beyond these facts, the template is not a recreation as it was created long ago and the template has a clear use in guiding to the kind of Reliable Sources needed at the place or article where the template is placed 628: 984:. Invalid nomination. "Standartization" is a tool, not a goal. Is something "ruins" standartization, then one must look first whether the standartization sucks in the first place. `' 42: 703:
different types of sources. Suppose an article has plenty of sources w/r/t facts, but none regarding the dates things happened. In such a circumstance (and I think anyone in
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it is requested to source the order in which it happened with some timeline and not just a source that it happened as it would be using just "fact"..
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the request is for sourcing when that happened not that it happened. Furthermore and for your benefit just a couple of aleatory examples:
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A userbox. Gov. Richardson has dropped his bid for the White House. As the user that created the template, I request its deletion.
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is requested a source of when happened what and not a source saying only that it happened as it would be using just "fact".
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a
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is requested a source of when that happened not only that it happened as it would be using just "fact".
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1571: 1109: 938: 869: 553: 512: 284: 143: 377:, along with existing consensus at the AFD that this seems to have simply been left out of. — 1624: 1595: 1556: 1532: 1504: 1469: 1011: 902: 845: 816: 775: 756: 727: 641: 541: 460: 306: 238: 165: 97: 1442: 1046: 878: 778:, more than just evidence for the date is needed, and it'd be far more appropriate to use 431: 664:- there are already too many of these inline templates to make proper use of them all. - 629:
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as a relic of the series of deleted articles. A particularly liberal interpretation of
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As above, completely redundant, the rest of these would be perfect CSD T3-fodder! : -->
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happened and obviously such information needs to be sourced properly. : -->
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Well, if it was that easy... why on Earth didn't we do this before?!
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per nom. My kingdom for a way to search for "Template:* weatherbox"
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It may be very useful in specific cases. Non redundant and clear
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It's currently used in three articles. Of these three:
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Single use replaced with a standard infobox. — 707:may agree) this template could be very useful. -- 802:would be so ambiguous that noone could tell. 8: 1004:something happened is just as important as 1499:, but can I have JPG-GR's kingdom now, 7: 1433:— added 03:26, 14 January 2008 (UTC) 1398:— added 02:46, 12 January 2008 (UTC) 1293:— added 18:17, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 1258:— added 17:39, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 1223:— added 17:23, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 1228:Template:College Station weatherbox 726:- I can see the utility of this. 28: 1587:We definitely don't need that. -- 1333:Template:Houston weatherbox small 587:Redundant and strange version of 18:Knowledge:Templates for deletion 621:User_talk:Adam_Cuerden#POV wars 616:"advertise a minor wikiproject" 229:as patent nonsense (CSD G1) by 1104:The result of the debate was 536:The result of the debate was 366:The result of the debate was 225:The result of the debate was 84:The result of the debate was 1: 30: 1647:10:45, 13 January 2008 (UTC) 1614:16:46, 11 January 2008 (UTC) 1598:23:58, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 1580:21:52, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 1561:02:31, 11 January 2008 (UTC) 1544:10:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 1516:09:38, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 1492:09:08, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 1474:04:56, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 1456:03:26, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 1403:Template:Marshall weatherbox 1363:01:57, 12 January 2008 (UTC) 1328:01:57, 12 January 2008 (UTC) 1118:01:51, 18 January 2008 (UTC) 1055:06:25, 13 January 2008 (UTC) 1034:22:40, 11 January 2008 (UTC) 993:18:34, 11 January 2008 (UTC) 977:17:12, 11 January 2008 (UTC) 958:16:44, 11 January 2008 (UTC) 942:15:06, 11 January 2008 (UTC) 912:10:01, 13 January 2008 (UTC) 887:06:25, 13 January 2008 (UTC) 873:22:58, 12 January 2008 (UTC) 855:12:34, 11 January 2008 (UTC) 807:11:54, 11 January 2008 (UTC) 766:09:40, 11 January 2008 (UTC) 739:19:08, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 719:16:30, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 692:14:16, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 675:12:56, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 651:10:00, 11 January 2008 (UTC) 606:09:56, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 547:01:25, 18 January 2008 (UTC) 488:16:40, 11 January 2008 (UTC) 472:19:07, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 440:13:10, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 382:16:13, 15 January 2008 (UTC) 318:22:10, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 293:21:43, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 243:02:31, 11 January 2008 (UTC) 177:22:13, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 152:22:10, 10 January 2008 (UTC) 109:User:DodgerOfZion/Richardson 102:02:31, 11 January 2008 (UTC) 61:User:DodgerOfZion/Richardson 1368:Template:Lubbock weatherbox 1298:Template:Houston weatherbox 1159:Template:Nairobi weatherbox 1125:Template:Falkirk weatherbox 877:I agree with Bkonrad here. 389:Template:Infobox Exeter Bus 343:Template:Infobox Exeter Bus 250:Template:StatusUnclassified 202:Template:StatusUnclassified 1681: 1263:Template:Dallas weatherbox 1193:Template:Austin weatherbox 305:- I can only say, "WTF??" 88:user request (CSD G7) by 1657:Please do not modify it. 1092:Please do not modify it. 1065:Please do not modify it. 933:, pointless redundancy. 813:Middleton, New Hampshire 790:Middleton, New Hampshire 524:Please do not modify it. 498:Please do not modify it. 354:Please do not modify it. 328:Please do not modify it. 213:Please do not modify it. 187:Please do not modify it. 72:Please do not modify it. 1082:Hard-coded Weatherboxes 1570:per nom. 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Knowledge:Templates for deletion
Log
January 9
January 11
User:DodgerOfZion/Richardson
deletion review
User:AliveFreeHappy
JPG-GR
talk
02:31, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
User:DodgerOfZion/Richardson
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talk
history
links
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logs
DodgerOfZion
talk
22:10, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
WP:CSD#G7
Happy
melon
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deletion review
Template:StatusUnclassified
deletion review
User:SkierRMH
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