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819:, and making it hinder rather than help a reader's attempts at navigating Knowledge (XXG). There is already a category for Family Radio stations, that provides easier navigation, as the redirects are italicized. The radio stations whose call signs redirect to the network's article are not independently notable and should not become articles. 1056:
as non-maintained, out-out-date template. It isn't the nom's job to "fix" unused, barely used or could-be-used templates. If an editor wishes to do so, they could. Ideally, it should be the actual creator of the template. If no one cares to update it in the 7 days this TfD ran, why would we believe
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to permit redirects when they "represent a distinct sub-topic of an article rather than simply being an alternative name." Since the song redirects are to distinct subsections of an article covering the corresponding song, would ask to keep, but will go with the consensus on this and do better in
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If you are displaying a three-letter code next to the flag, wouldn't it be preferable to not have it wrap in tables? Such a column would be very narrow already, it would seem awkward to have it wrapped. The nowrap tag can be removed from the template, but I'll note it's modeled off the output of
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is an essay and has been used as a long-running standard and basis for deletion of navboxes with a small number of links. This isn't going to change. And frankly, there should be enough articles before creating a navbox. There aren't enough at this time for having this navbox.
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Sorry, but it is a long-running standard to have most links to be articles, not subsections of articles. The links in the related section have no direct relation to the subject. The template still meets the merits of deletion.
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This navbox template only has three articles (the musician, an album, and one song) with all other links redirecting via piped links to one of those three, so aid to navigation isn't particularly helpful as is.
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which reads that "where a redirect represents a distinct sub-topic within a larger article and is not merely a variant name, it is preferable to leave the redirect in the template." Likewise, the next section
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We don't count the article title of the navbox. It's more about the links body of the template that matters. So far there are only three and not enough for navigation.
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Just import the roster from the article page into this and link on players articles. There is enough and the roster on the article is up to date as of August 2024. --
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That is incorrect. On September 7, 2024, a fourth link with a redirect to the "singles" section of the American Descendant of Slavery, the Album
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No improvements have been made to fix this navbox. Still three articles within. The template still meets the critera for deletion. --
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seems to prevent wrapping of text (specifically between the flag and code), which causes display issues in the articles that use
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While the redirects have been removed in an effort to compromise, I don't think they needed to be removed based on
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Even with the subsection redirects gone, the navbox links to four articles, which should make it more useful as
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The overwhelming number of links are merely redirects to the network's article, making the navbox violate
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reads "linking to a title that redirects to a section or anchor within the article (redirects with {{
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So far, I haven't seen any specific policies or guidelines referenced that either dispute or refute
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Knowledge (XXG):Templates for discussion/Log/2024 August 31#Template:Hurricane Isaac (2012) series
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Basically empty, unused, and out of date team roster navbox. The current roster is maintained at
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anyone would update this on a regular bases? That's part of a problem with "current" templates.
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editors should set out the key policies and guidelines supporting their preferred outcome
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules.
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I've removed the redirects. There are sufficient numbers of links for a navbox.
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and serves the same purpose, just that it is used for files with
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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navbox updated to now link to four articles instead of three
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The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion.
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Both of these templates do the same thing, except that
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There's a ton of socking going on here. I've blocked
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Are there sufficient numbers of links for a navbox?
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Knowledge (XXG):Templates for discussion
Log
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September 7
Template:Terry Blade
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history
transclusions
logs
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Knowledge (XXG):EXISTING
Roberteditor
talk
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WikiCleanerMan
talk
01:45, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Knowledge (XXG):EXISTING
WP:NAVNORREDIRECT
WP:SELFRED
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Music-cadence
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06:21, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Music-cadence
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