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As with Demo Groups (see discussion on Vfd Feb/17th), warez groups aren't inherently notable. In the internet age, it's far too easy to create one, as all you have to do is spread some illegal software. THG is notable because it predates the internet.
499:. There are other news agencies which report on this group in Chinese, Japanese, Italian, French, Finnish, German, Russian, Spanish, Swedish, and many, many other languages. Note to voters: this article is in the process of being edited. —
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I did. It's in the paragraph right above yours. Now that you've moved my comment to the bottom of the page, you should see a numeral 5 surrounded by brackets. In case you don't see it, here it is again.
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Then I guess we should delete the mafia, its really easy to have children and start a crime family. The fact they were raided by the govt makes them not noteworthy ... I gotcha! (this is
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It just seems curious that you made so many edits and then decided "Wait! This article needs to go!" I mean, you made a minor edit
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What I said was that being raided by the government has nothing to do with noteworthiness (or lack thereof) for an encyclopedia.
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