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Duplicate deletions (such as the A.C. Ransom articles) are counted as one article. Merged articles that were deleted and then merged to another existing article on the same coach are counted as restored. Articles restored and then re-deleted (such as Joe Banks) are removed from "restored" category"
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Initial requests for more time to work on the articles or to reduce the number of nominations were met with harsh responses from several editors. Eventual intervention based on the volume of AfDs led to the downturn of the nominations for deletion led to the nominations being reduced to a more
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when new information and resources became available, specifically that he is one of the few college coaches at any level to be head coach of both basketball and football programs during the same calendar year (in the "modern era") and for his credit for significant contributions to the schools
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article has contributed to a marked reduction in the number of deletions which can be observed in the table above. It seems that no head coach article has been nominated for deletion for over two weeks (as of 30 Oct 2008). In addition, articles once deleted under the
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either as precedent or at least as a reference for a reason to delete. There is evidence that using this one discussion had clouded the judgement of editors during their discussions and even of administrators who based deletion of articles at least in part on
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can, through collaboration, be dramatically improved. As a small sample, here is a list of many articles that began much like those that were deleted and were enhanced through efforts of collaboration and grew to robust articles:
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The main argument being made here is that all of the articles restored were restored because they found a pro football career or something notable outside of the original scope of the article, which was college football coaching.
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This, however, is a false statement. Certainly some of the articles were restored when a professional career was found, and others were restored when other outside notability surfaced. However, others such as
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discussion because it is evident that deletion discussions were highly influenced by the original root discussion. These articles include (but may not limited to) the 62 articles listed in the table above.
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when unique information and sources were found showing discontinuation of program for one year by faculty due to excessively rough and dangerous practice sessions. Conferred with the deleting admin.
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were done in good faith. However, the influence of those arguments on other articles has been weighted toward delete. This is most evident when viewing the trend of deletions and how, once
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by the closing admin. These discussions were largely ignored by the editors at the time, and any attempt to bring them up resulted in a simple "consensus can change" statement.
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manageable number at any given time. Once this happened, articles questioned began to be improved through collaboration with additional sources cited and many more were kept.
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Of course, articles being prepared in a user space can be edited by anyone--but by placing the articles in the "open" we can add proper categories and tags (not only for the
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boldy restored when additional nationwide sources found, refereneces to early racial integration in college sports, and key involvmeent in college mascot discovered.
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discussions, the recent AfD trend was toward keeping similar articles. A good amount of similar articles had gone through AfD discussions and were closed as
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were restored because of thier contribution to college football--it was merely the addition of more sources and details to the page on the same topic.
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boldly restored when additional sources, significant contributions, 20+ years of collegiate coaching and over 100 victories were verified.
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Some articles already existed, but have become more robust due to the college football project efforts. Some of these articles include:
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with several more indirectly from the same group of nominations. These discussions resulted in the deletion of at least 62 articles.
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all except Harry Huston and Willis Bates. "West Precedent" is given as one of the reasons for the deletion by the closing admin.
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may have influenced editors who would have joined discussions but chose not to when they read that a precedent already existed.
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discussions. It concludes with arguments to overturn any and all deletion of articles that may have been influenced by the
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as the primary driver. Some had been previously nominated for deletion but were not deleted. This was discussed at
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The timeline table above has a brief review of why and how each article was restored, along with pertinent links.
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coach of the year, had over 100 wins, and a rich history as well as widespread coverage. Notified deleting admin.
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was deleted that was not present before. Full, proper consideration must be given without improper influence.
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precedent have been improved in user workspace and are beginning to be restored by the deleting administrator.
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being reconsidered) resulted in fewer successful deletions of articles. Editors supporting deletion based on
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in concurrence with Schwender article on suspension of football for one year. Conferred with deleting admin.
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when prominent noteable high school coaching career found (fourth best in nation). Notified deleting admin.
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That adds up to a total of 119 direct references in AFD discussions using the West incident as a source.
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A large number of AfD nominations and/or discussions took place in a short period of time that cited
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The following pre-emptive arguments are made to assist with consideration of this proposal.
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other articles have been improved during this time as a result of research completed on the
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was uncovered, including being listed in four other existing articles in Knowledge (XXG).
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when widespread coverage of his move from business to collegiate coaching was verified.
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truly do still stand, then they could withstand unprejudiced exposure in a new forum.
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The following articles and AfD discussions should have been considered but were not:
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Articles restored as redirect and information included into lists are also included.
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were also referenced in AfD discussions as a form of "consensus" or "precedent":
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with permission from the deleting admin, then userfied again after another
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or sub-state projects, and any other project that may apply).
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all except Victor Payne. Uses phrase "West Precedent."
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