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Division and was formed from volunteers from Western Australia and completed its training in Perth and Adelaide, before undertaking garrison duties in Darwin throughout 1941. In January 1942, the majority of the battalion was hastily deployed to Singapore following the Japanese advance down the Malay Peninsula. There, they were involved in the ultimately doomed defence of the island and subsequently taken as prisoners of war. A smaller detachment of the battalion – having been left behind at Fremantle when they "missed the boat" – fought in the brief, and also fruitless, defence of Java, before also being taken prisoner and enduring over three years of captivity. I look forward to working with reviewers to further improve this article. Thank you for your time. Regards,
731:"four such units were formed within the part-time Militia, by converting light horse units and motorising them while others were also raised later after the Second World War began.": part of a run-on sentence? In addition, the article states only four units were ever raised. This sentence states that they were formed prior to the war, but more were formed following the war? To me, the following sentence explaining the conversion of militia units to AIF units further adds to the confusion.
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G'day, I've expanded the lead and added a couple more images now, although the issue is that there doesn't appear to be any images specifically relating to the 2/4th MG during the fighting on
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This may be a perennial question but grammatically I'd expect the general term "machine-gun battalion" ("machine-gun" hyphenated as a compound adjective); OTOH if the correct rendering of the unit name is "Machine Gun
Battalion" (without hyphen) then I understand the attempt to make the former,
386:"was one of four machine gun battalions raised as part of the all volunteer Second Australian Imperial Force (2nd AIF) for service overseas during the Second World War." - while this is correct, didn't some of the CMF machine gun battalions also become AIF units late in the war?
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Tried to clarify, essentially it is after basic soldier skills have been taught: section, platoon, coy, and bn or brigade etc manouevres/exercises, i.e. working as part of a larger team, as opposed to say individual skills like shooting, drill, physical fitness etc.
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Unfortunately, Cody's narrative here is very confusing as he talks about men from other units at this point, not just the 2/4th MG. On re-reading it looks like I got this wrong (it was two men from the 2/18th, it seems), so I've adjusted it. Apologies.
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No worries. Although, it is sad to see even more tragedy revolving around the unit. Having just read a little on the massacre at
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Did a bit of tidying, there were – between – phrases which I think I remember seeing—should be—instead but revert if desired. There's a footnote needing a citation so I'll have a look for it.
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Lead is not long enough. Sections are not sub-sectioned sufficiently given volume of text. Also, more images would be nice; somewhat a wall-of-text at present.
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Parochial in some regards, but primarily pragmatic. Added something.
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