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692:"Heavy bombardment of Egan's Ridge, the last Japanese defensive location before the Hongorai, had finally allowed it to be occupied by a company of Australian infantry after the Japanese, who had been sheltering in tunnels on the devastated position, had been forced to abandon it." - suggest "The last remaining defensive location before the Hongorai was Egan's Ridge, where the Japanese were sheltering in tunnels. A heavy bombardment devastated the position the position and forced them to abandon the Ridge." 263:
Strategic situation: Where is Bougainville? Why did the Americans hand over the area to the Australians (I am of the understanding that the area was a bit of a 'backwater', and the Americans handed over such areas to the Aussies in order to concentrate their own troops for the more important sectors,
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G'day, I've checked the source and that is how James describes it, but I think you are right. There seems to be a lack of clarity in the way James describes the situation. I've tried to make it a bit clearer that the 24th and 58th/59th moved together in mid-April, while the 57th/60th began moving in
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Another battle of the final stages of the Second World War on Bougainville. This one was part of the Australian drive south towards the Japanese strong hold around Buin. I took this one through GAN nearly six years ago and recently revisited it after getting Karl James' 2012 book out of the library.
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Advance to the Hongorai section: the opening seems confusing, especially in regards to the 57th/60th. Was the battalion on Commando road on 17 April per the initial disposition information, or only after 3 May? The article states the Australians employed a different set of tactics by attacking with
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I do not think that this is necessarily needed in this article, however it does have me curious. My own reading on Matilda tanks (from the fighting in the desert) was that the standard armament was a machine gun and a 2 pounder gun only issued with AP rounds, and close support tanks equipped with
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howitzers only capable of firing (or only equipped with) smoke shells. With the article detailing these tanks tearing up the jungle and knocking out guns and pillboxes, were the ones employed by the Australians equipped or armed differently?
604:"With hostilities coming to a close the Japanese began harassing..." The belligerents at the time would not have know that the war would end when it did so I wonder if this wording is a little loose and wise after the fact? 616:"...which they found to be heavily mined and booby trapped, which had to be cleared by engineers and assault pioneers..." perhaps consider tweaking, for instance "...which they found to be heavily mined and booby trapped, 321:"Following the Battle of Slater's Knoll ... shorten their supply lines.": So the Australians are already on the island, when did this happen? Was this part of the American handover mentioned in the previous section? 594:
One image is missing alt text so you might consider adding it for consistency with the rest (File:Australian 57-60th Inf Bn Crossing the Hongorai River 1945 (AWM image 092280).jpg) - suggestion only, not an ACR
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Looks great Rupert, this really is a great article. I really like the way you start with the overall situation and explain "how we got here", which is often too short in these sorts of articles, IMHO.
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I believe some had howitzers (Long p. 184); during the description of the fighting at Slater's Knoll, James (p. 206) says they fired high explosive shells, but not what they were armed with. Regards,
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The changes you have made look good, and really clear up the few issues I had. In regards to the tank comment, I do not think we need to worry further about that. I have added my support. Regards,
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Thanks, Nikki, I've updated the link for the first one, and replaced the second image as unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an archive version for the Corsair image. Regards,
229:: Okay, so I am coming at this article as a complete layman to the theatre. Overall, the article is good and meets most of the A-Class criteria. However, a few tweaks are needed: 21: 120: 402:
two battalions, yet the second forward battalion (the 57th/60th) did not arrive until about two weeks later, so the same tactics of a one battalion frontage was used?
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7th brigade's 9th Battalion patrolling the Huio River: What does this have to do with the 57th/60th Infantry Battalion not being able to join the 15th Brigade Group?
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Repetitive prose here: "...The initial phase saw the Australians towards the Hongorai River. Following the end of the initial..." (initial x 2).
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All tool checks ok - no dabs, ext links check out, citation check tool reveals no errors, no repeat links, Earwig tool is down at the moment.
302:"as well as affording them protection against further counter-attacks": what counterattacks had taken place before the planned assault? 343:
Adjusted the second note slightly. One refers to overall strength in the area, as opposed to troops directly facing the Australians.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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I would like to improve the article further so I have put it up for A-class review. Thanks to all who stop by. Regards,
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Missing word here I think: "The initial phase saw the Australians towards the Hongorai River" (after "Australians").
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Essentially the 9th had to remain instead of being relieved with the rest of the 7th. Tried to clarify this.
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is that part of the story here)? Why is this island important? Why was it not just bypassed and cut off?
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Some readers might not know what "proving operations" are. Is there anything we could link it to?
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G'day, Maury, thank you for these comments. I've implemented all of them. These are my changes:
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File:F4U-1_Corsairs_of_26_Squadron_RNZAF_in_flight_1945.jpeg: second source link is dead.
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G'day, thanks for your time. I think I've address your points. These are my edits:
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base around Rabaul. US Marines conducted - split at "US", these are two paras.
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Perhaps mention that much of the Australian force was made up of Militia / CMF?
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Yes, it seemed wrong to me, too, but that is how Tanaka describes the unit.
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You may want to fix the wiktionary redirect for 'tactical assembly area'
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the counterattacks in November 1943 and March 1945, mentioned now.
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File:Bougainville_campaign_1945.jpg: third source link is dead
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leaving behind a 70 mm gun - I assume this is the Type 92?
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Those changes look good to me. I've added my support now.
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I am not familiar with Japanese nomenclature, so is "4th
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had to be cleared by engineers and assault pioneers..."
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That's it, this is really in very good shape already.
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G'day, thanks for these comments. These are my edits:
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