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This list covers all of the protected cruisers built by France from the 1880s to early 1900s - these ships represented a competition between different elements in the French naval officer corps. Some favored long-range commerce raiders, others preferred small fleet scouts, while others wanted ships
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was sent there in 1915 after the Entente had more or less conquered Kamerun, but it's unclear when she turned up in Morocco to be converted to a repair ship (which would of course tell us when
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That's tough - Jordan & Caresse aren't clear about when the ship was transferred there, and I haven't been able to track anything down in other sources.
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for all of these roles by the early 1900s, so no further protected cruisers were built. Thanks to all who take the time to review the list.
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The various editions of Conway's have chapters written by named authors. So add author, chapter title, and page range for them.
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suitable for patrolling the French colonial empire. This led to a wide variety of ships being built, from small scouts like the
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Was Forbin scrapped in 1919 or broken up in 1921? I may not be comprehending something, but this seems to be a contradiction
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FAC over the hump earlier this month (and once your comments here fell off my watchlist...) Thanks for the reminder.
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had been sent to replace her. "Late in the conflict" to me implies 1918, and given what little we know about
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The actual list portion of the article appears to be very well sourced and appropriately detailed for a list.
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Images appropriately licensed. Pity that most of them aren't on Commons, but understandable why.--
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Up to you. I myself am doing it for new articles, but only occasionally upgrading older ones.--
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clique of officers specifically advocating for more colonial service vessels. The closest is
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the three Alger-class vessels filled the requirement for the three medium cruisers.
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A third group sought more cruisers to expand and defend the French colonial empire
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How does this fulfill Aube's building program as detailed in the Davout section?
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s activities, I'd assume it was probably 1917, but we can't say for certain.
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The acquisition of French Indochina during this period gave leverage to the
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The sentence starting with 'Lavoisier was the only' is a bit over-complex
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was sold for scrap in '24 and then not scrapped until the next year?
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Likewise, is there a reason why what appears to be a sailing rig on
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This article is in good shape. I have only the following comments:
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Everett and Pavé lack a place of publication; sources otherwise OK
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You're going to make me fix all of the articles too, aren't ya?
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Suggest something along the lines of "her fate is unknown"
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A good catch - I've added a bit on this in the section on
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The first para should say what a protected cruiser was
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Sources look reliable enough for what they're citing.
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Capitalize "Bay of Nouadhibou" as it's a proper name
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Split up and reworded slightly to avoid repetition.
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