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204:", perhaps tomorrow (which I guess is today, according to zulu time). For your second point: yes, I guess that's true, I'll take a look at that as well. Unfortunately, with the exception of the mine damage to the ship during the second Yarmouth operation (mainly because it delayed the sortie that resulted in Jutland), there is little available, at least in English language sources, that states what the ship was doing. Presumably, she was sitting around in Wilhelmshaven or Kiel, with the crew twiddling their thumbs, but I don't know if there's much value added in mentioning that after every operation. As for the photo, and I'm by no means an expert on copyright (especially the more complex stuff like photos of models), I think that if the uploader were to state that s/he was the creator of the model, then there wouldn't be an issue, even if models do fall under the reproduction of artwork restriction. But I'll leave that to the image people at FAC to decide for sure :) Thanks again. 170:
Is there anything particularly remarkable about "Financial constraints meant that there would have to be a trade off between speed, battle capabilities, and displacement." - this is true for almost every warship ever produced, and so this sentence could be toned
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I recently rewrote and greatly expanded the article, and it just passed GA. I think it's at or close to A, with maybe some minor copyediting to be done. I appreciate all comments towards ironing out the article, towards an eventual run at FAC. Thanks in advance!
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It took me a little while to get to this, but I've re-uploaded all of the images you noted back to en.wiki, with the appropriate license templates. As for the one of the ship after Jutland, if it will need to go, I can always upload one of
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The 'World War I' section is good, but only covers the operations the ship was involved in. A para or two on what she did between these operations (eg, sit at anchor with occasional exercises and overhauls) would be
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Eh, the images are good enough; I just wanted to hit the ones I knew what to do with. The others can be left to the good (and mush more knowledgeable) image reviewers at FAC.
465:"A month later, the German Revolution began; it toppled the monarchy and led to the Armistice that ended the war." That was not a month after October 24, did you mean week? 301: 563:
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needs to be moved here and deleted on Commons; NHC photos are only certainly in the public domain in the U.S. use the same templates as I did on
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is PD given that its a photo of a model (eg, is it a reproduction of an artwork or equivalent?). I personally don't care, but someone else will.
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ought to be wikilinked in the opening sentence, no? Also, those hyphens look...odd. Are they wrong, or am I just imagining things?
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a work of the federal government; according to the LOC, it is an "Illus. The Illustrated London News, 1916 June 10, p. 739." So
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Can we get locations and OCLC's for all of your books by entering their ISBN's in place of the #'s here? worldcat.org/##########
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Thanks. I think I meant "next month", not "a month later", thanks for catching that :) I clarified that
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This is a very good article which meets the criteria. My comments for further development are:
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Please explain the bit about her being manned by the crew of York, that confuses me.
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An interesting read that actually taught me something, good luck at FAC. –
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needs attention, and there are no external links, so no problem there!
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had just been withdrawn from active service, is that better now?
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If you take the article to a FAC someone is bound to ask whether
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Pardon my ignorance, but what is an OCLC? Thanks again, Ed.
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has no proof that it is PD, but that can be left for FAC.
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Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Military history
Assessment
archive
SMS Seydlitz
Eurocopter
talk
08:01, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Parsecboy
talk
Featured article candidates/SMS Seydlitz/archive1
Analysis
Citation bot
External links
Parsecboy
talk
13:34, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
File:SMS Seydlitz 1916 1-350 .jpg
Nick-D
talk
23:29, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Parsecboy
talk
02:49, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
this version
One disambig
opening image
File:Scharnhorst guns.jpg
File:Seydlitz in port.jpg
File:Seydlitz moored in harbor.jpg
File:SMS Seydlitz mit Zeppelin.jpg

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