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Pieces of information not included in lower-order categories (1 and 2) should simply be skipped. In the absence of the instrument, the term "musicians" should be used. Otherwise, the word for someone who plays that instrument should be used (e.g., "guitarists"), and should always be plural. Examples:
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Every order category should be in one lower-pre-order category for each piece of information in the category. In other words, second-order categories should be sub categories of two different pre-second categories, and third-order cats should be sub-cats of three different pre-third categories. For
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Always start the sorting word with a capital letter, mediawiki knows the difference and sorts capital letters and lower case letter separately. When sorting by nationality, use the nationality, not the country. When sorting by instrument, use the instrument, not the term for someone who plays the
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When placing order-categories into pre-order categories, use piped links to specify the sorting on the category page. The piped text (i.e., the sorting key) should be the piece of information offered by the new sub-cat. For instance, if placing
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Note that each first order category can have 2 pre-second order sub cats, but each second order category has one pre-third order sub cat, because the second-order category itself is only missing one piece of information.
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box to the top of a page based on the subject's nationality and profession. It shows up quite a bit on musician pages and even musician categories. The template itself is fine, but one of the arguments,
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Once again, these types of categories are common and don't conflict with the guidelines. Don't try to fit them in the structure, just leave them as a sub-category of the appropriate Singer category.
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Articles should be placed into as specific of a category as possible, always favor third-order over second, and second over first whenever the information is available. They should
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into one category using this scheme because each third order category is a sub-cat of all the appropriate second order and first order categories, so if you put your article into
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To separate categories of different orders, we use pre-order categories. These group similar higher order subcategories within their parent category. In general,
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so that the pre-order categories show up first in the sub-categories listing. Following the space should be simply the name of the page, for which you can use
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All pre-order categories should be placed into the parent category using piped links to specify the sorting order. The sorting word should
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have been divided into three "orders" based on amount of information encapsulated by the category. The three pieces of information are the
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Please use the following guidelines when organizing articles. To discuss these guidelines, please use the
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be placed in a parent category and also one of it's sub categories, e.g., no placing an article in both
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Singers should be considered musicians who use a specific instrument, that instrument being
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Don't create "by instrument" categories-- it makes sense for other genres, but not hip hop.
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There's a lot of categories that look like a pre-order category, for instance
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The previous method of sorting singers by "style" rather than "genre" (e.g.
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There are some special considerations concerning hip hop categorization:
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pages where this causes a conflict, please simply remove the (optional)
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consistency, parent categories should be listed in the following order:
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There are also three pre-first categories, which are subcategories of
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is a subcategory of the latter, and neither is placed directly into
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aims to organize and categorize the articles about musicians within
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All categories should be named using the following order:
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Singers who frequently sing for hip hop songs can go in
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Category:Knowledge (XXG) requested photographs of people
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the same way you normally would. This also applies to
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