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366:, had no articles, I felt, as a journalist and someone in the rare position of being both old enough to know their work and long-familiar with writing for the web, that if I didn't give them their due on this often younger-skewing Project, who would? I've since created 94 comics-creator bios plus a slew of related articles". J Greb is an administrator and has been on Knowledge (XXG) since 2006, and joined the WikiProject Comics because "Initially it was a desire to add information on topics related to my hobby. More and more, it has become trying to balance a belief that at least basic information about most aspects and elements of comics, should be present with respect for and use of, community derived policies and guidelines on content." Fram has been a Wikipedian since 2005 and is also an administrator: "I'm a Belgian editor, interested in (mainly European) comics, and I wanted a place to get feedback on what I was doing, and to discuss some standards, naming conventions, ". 256: 271: 584: 164: 117: 107: 395:
a desire to see a writer, artist, series or character treated right, but remember that articles are for general use. The second is skewing in favor of either the new or the old. Most of us have our favorite series or version of something, but we have to remember that a topic needs to be treated as a whole, not just what we tend to gravitate to, or what is immediately available on the web or today's store shelves.
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than of the WikiProject Comics. We have some very good editors who have created very fine articles, but in general, we don't have a dedicated drive towards GA and FA articles. Many comics-related subjects have less high-quality, independent sources to be used in upgrading articles than more "serious"
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Right now, there are a number of editors that work through articles trying to bring a degree of consistency based on the Project's Manual of Style pages. But the biggest challenge we have is two fold. The first is for editors, new and old, to set aside a fan's desire to be overly detailed. Go in with
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In most cases, these are the result of a handful of editors working very had on very important topics to take what other editors have provided, and polish and complete them to either "Good" or "Featured" status. The biggest thing is that all editors need to look at what they have done and strive for
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of interest only to hardcore fans and not the general public. We need to better institute in them the notion that this is an academic encyclopedia, and that 10,000-word articles with issue-by-issue details like "Spider-Man knocked out Electro and then found Mary Jane behind the door" are not really
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Articles on comics from non-English speaking countries are often the work of one or two editors, and the quality of those articles varies wildly. Information about the author, the publisher, etc. may be lacking, while all characters are described in loving detail. Like with most pop culture areas,
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Apart from the responses above, the most pressing need is something that many other Projects struggle with as well: the underrepresentation of many countries on Knowledge (XXG). We do not have enough information on comics from Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia, and other parts of the
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One thing I think is important is that we remember that articles are going to exists that can be justified, but will not reach the level of "Good". While the GA and FA articles are desirable, all articles deserves an honest look and honest work to make them the best they can
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The most pressing need in my mind would be the ability to set the fan aside and reduce the minutia and hype. As for how new contributors can help, come into the editing with a willingness to learn and work with others. Also, come with a desire to work with the
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This wonderful, Utopian idea of a 💕 covering topics both traditional and nontraditional, can be one of the most important contributions the web has ever given. I hope that our small portion of it continues to strive toward that
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that type of work, either in maintaining those articles or improving others. It is also worth noting that a number of those articles are in the hands of multiple Projects, showing a good degree of cooperation.
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our biggest challenge. Well-meaning fans, whose intimate knowledge of certain subjects are critically important and welcome, tend to treat Knowledge (XXG) articles as fan sites, filling them with minutiae and
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We have a nucleus of veteran editors who communicate well with each other, do a good job of soliciting Project-wide input, and try to bring along new editors who learn and respect the
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For the past year and a half, every WikiProject Report has ended with a teaser alluding to the next project to be featured. Check out our previous reports in the
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WikiProject Comics has 22 FA-class articles, 2 FLs, and 102 GA-class articles. How did your Project achieve this and how can other Projects work toward this?
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Your Project has over 37,800 articles associated with it. How does the Project keep all these up to standard, and what are its biggest challenges?
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and has been a Wikipedian since 2005. He became involved with WikiProject Comics "When I noted that some of the greats in this field, such as
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These projects could use new members to help improve articles and increase activity on the projects' talk pages:
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Yes, there are a number of Projects we overlap content with: WP:FILM, which has produced a joint work group,
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comics articles are often written from a fan's point of view, rather than from a neutral point of view.
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are the biggest ones. And a number of editors are active in one or more of these as well as Comics.
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needs your help as WikiProject United States attempts to prepare it for Good Article status by the
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Submit your project's news and announcements for next week's WikiProject Report at the Signpost's
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What are the most pressing needs for WikiProject Comics? How can a new contributor help today?
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in Knowledge (XXG). The Project is home to more than 37,800 articles, with 22
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To be fair, a significant number of these are more the work of the
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