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which means you'd have to pay me a damned good salary with a solid contract in order for me to make that heartbreaking choice." I already agree in full with Orange Mike's coverage of the effects on content on COI as "drinking from … the firehose of sewage." As Orange Mike notes, many
Wikipedians edit because the "pleasure and duty" of the free work we do is radically different to being a clerical worker on lunch break. Knowledge (XXG) is a relief from the imposition of wage labour, and the control over the labour process exerted by machine design, process design and immediate supervision that exists in paid work. While wikipedia might have many faults as a work system, it is a work system where each editor has both an immmediate and a collective total freedom to attempt to redefine the work process. Moreover, we can work here knowing that the only motivation for work is the pleasure of the work itself, and the duty to the work itself. We can put being an encyclopaedist, the duty to the encyclopaedia and our readers, first in a way in which we can't when trying to feed ourselves from our labour. The problem is that there is a contradiction, an inherent opposition, between being a convenience for paid editors and their bosses; versus the duty and pleasure of encyclopaedism. To become a convenience, we lose encyclopaedism. This is true at the article level, where we are turned into process operating mechanical-turks, transcribing the demands of PR officials. This is true at the community level, where instead of being Knowledge (XXG), the free encyclopaedia that anyone can edit; we become Britannica for free, now with improved access for PR wonks to fuck with the record. The choice is simple: if we wish to remain a free encyclopaedia, where duty and pleasure guides us to improve the encyclopaedia, we need to police paid editing as if (as they are) people who scab on our free work and try to enslave us. For example, the offer on a "professional services" site for an Administrator to keep content in articles clearly shows how the "wages" paid to one exist off the backs of every other wikipedian, and reduce their freedom to edit into an unpaid job. To the extent we accept paid editing, we betray the encyclopaedic project and our own freedom to edit.
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basis) and then we need as a community to determine what sort of edits are kosher and which are forbidden by such editors. The line is somewhere between "no edits at all" and "anything goes." I honestly believe that, contrary to what some
Wikipedians feel at a visceral level, MOST PR pros are not out to spam Knowledge (XXG) silly but just want some sort of honest and reliable mechanism to ensure that NPOV prevails for their clients. That can either be achieved by monitored direct editing or it can be achieved by some sort of new and substantial mechanism generating uninvolved editing by others. Given the thinness of the content-creation corps at WP, I think that monitored direct editing is probably the answer. Maybe COI certification helps get us there, but it needs to be a simple process that generates a universally-accepted credential, otherwise people would be taping a target to their back by becoming certified COI editors. So I don't know.
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big ol' meanie and tell somebody that their topic just isn't for
Knowledge (XXG). The latter, unfortunately, includes the Irish dance troupe my wife and daughter have both danced with: I had to reject an article about it, because it failed to establish notability and lacked reliable sources! I'd love to see a new one written, but I'm not about to touch that myself.
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I want to extend and expand on the "economic" aspect of paid editing's effect on wikipedia's practices, that Orange Mike covers briefly twice, "Knowledge (XXG) does not exist as a convenience for them and their bosses." and "Only if I abandoned the pleasure and duty of being a legitimate
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NPOV. That is a difficult standard and it will never be universal, sadly. There will always be problems. The best we can do is to attempt to educate newcomers to make them aware of this philosophy and its necessity in a massive collaborative project such as ours. I don't know if certification helps
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policy; and (2) input of those with COI towards NPOV and more accuracy should always be welcomed; and (3) reversion of real vandalism is never a problem. That doesn't leave a ton of area of disagreement, from my perspective. It comes down to a question of (A) is it okay for involved editors to make
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where we have to contend with many complaints from COI editors about their articles/edits being deleted). Knowledge (XXG) is suffering from a lack of experienced New Page
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I really like helping the noobs who honestly don't understand why what they are doing is wrong, but whose topic is genuinely notable and does need an article. Most of these, of course, are non-profits rather than corporations. On the other hand, sometimes I'm really distressed when I have to be the
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cases) to do this full-time, and to persist in trying to sneak across the line and plant their distortions and spam; whereas those watching the borders for raids are more like me, a clerical worker working on his lunch break and weekends, who couldn't even afford to go to
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and accompanied by proper disclosure of COI, can be valuable, and should always be welcomed. A more accurate
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and noticed that the article had been heavily edited by CitiCorp IPs. Nobody had noticed this issue for a number of years. So I'm concered that if we don't recruit more unpaid volunteer editors to help, we won't be able to fix the existing problems or keep up with new ones. So I would encourage
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spells out what Knowledge (XXG) articles are supposed to be for, how they should be written, and that promoting a political candidate, a company, a product or service, an emerging garage band, or one's self, are not part of the philosophy that many (most?) of us joined the project for. I treat
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Well, duh! There is no industry more obsessed about its own image than the PR industry: look at the spammy articles about PR agencies, the way they hand out little statuettes and plaques to each other, the way they obsess with rankings and billings, etc. It would be beyond belief that the more
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edits or not? and, if so, (B) in what manner can these edits be brought to scrutiny?; and further (C) what should be the mechanism for involved editors to move forward ideas about controversial edits? Three hours, ten beers, that could be solved. Getting such a deal through the dysfunctional
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minute: that's not really true or accurate!", or at least numbs it. Of course, in modern Western society, where people are raised on a non-stop diet of advertising, that part of human judgement seems to have pretty much atrophied in general: look at what passes for political discourse!
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No. Knowledge (XXG) does not exist as a convenience for them and their bosses. Why should they be privileged above anybody else? Most of the whiners don't bother to learn how we work, and seem unable or unwilling to do so. How complicated is it to post a {{helpme}} tag?
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It certainly can't, without changing our model beyond recognizability or utility. It would be my ideal, I guess, that only those genuinely seeking to make this project more accurate were to edit; but we can't let the perfect become the enemy of the good.
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was inadequate and incorrect. From there, by the old "browsing randomly through the encylopedia" syndrome, I discovered other areas where I could help improve this global project, and provide further information to the world: how cool is that!
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is generally not a problem when there are a lot of unpaid volunteers to keep an eye on things. But as editor loss becomes greater, the ability to keep an eye on these issues diminshes. I recently ran across CitiCorp executive
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Taking the liberty to editorialize a bit outside of the interview, I agree that there's more room for agreement than it often appears. I'm very curious what you think of
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The article I contributed to about CREWE is at the top of Paid Advocacy Watch's list to be checked for paid advocacy. Does this mean you have concerns about the article?
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It would be my ideal that only those genuinely seeking to make this project more accurate were to edit; but we can't let the perfect become the enemy of the good.
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No more than ideological cranks and single-issue fanatics; but that is quite a lot. The thing about mercenary editors is that they are paid (very well, in
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1) Of course we are accountable for accuracy, in all four million articles. 2) The survey, biased though it was, didn't say that, and I'm tired of the
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words, 60% of the Knowledge (XXG) articles for respondents who were familiar with their company or recent client’s article contained factual errors.
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blatant COI editors with the same politeness and respect as I do anyone else, but it certainly stretches my patience to have to do so.
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about the response times on talk pages. Do you think Knowledge (XXG) needs to do something to better accommodate them?
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cases) to do this full-time, and to persist in trying to sneak across the line and plant their distortions and spam.
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I'm not sure how much they have, really. I think a few of the older editors (I won't name names) have been burned by
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that reversion of vandalism (and I mean real vandalism, not "we don't want that story publicized") is not a problem.
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PR firm accused of editing Knowledge (XXG) for government clients; can Knowledge (XXG) predict the stock market?
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solve this or not. I suppose Orange Mike and others of his perspective are better people to ask...
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To provide another set of eyes, as we say, in an area where we are always going to be vulnerable.
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that it did. Always read the source documents, not the spindoctors' reports about them.
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which is a possible reason for the decline, and more importantly (as an admin):
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labyrinth that is the WP decision-making process? Now that's another story...
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which incorporates most of the recommendations you've made above. Cheers,
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and Paid Advocacy Watch? How are they different? Can they work together?
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I don't watch it that sedulously, so I can't say off the top of my head.
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I think we are already bending over backwards to accommodate them.
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Wikimedia announcements, Knowledge (XXG) advertising, and more!
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tactics which are responsible for deliberately spreading the
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that paid editors never make direct changes to articles?
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Does Knowledge (XXG) Pay? The Moderator: William Beutler
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Does Knowledge (XXG) Pay? The Moderator: William Beutler
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folks, out there messing with our articles every day.
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Trying to find COI or paid editors? Just read the news
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Kalanick's nipples; Episode #138 of Drama on the Hill
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2448:If your comment has not appeared here, you can try
2165:What would you say about the relationship between
1959:German Knowledge (XXG) introduces incentive scheme
1803:Does Knowledge (XXG) pay? The skeptic: Orange Mike
1790:Does Knowledge (XXG) Pay? The Founder: Jimmy Wales
1361:Some strange people edit Knowledge (XXG) for money
1082:German Knowledge (XXG) introduces incentive scheme
926:Does Knowledge (XXG) pay? The skeptic: Orange Mike
913:Does Knowledge (XXG) Pay? The Founder: Jimmy Wales
484:Some strange people edit Knowledge (XXG) for money
72:Does Knowledge (XXG) Pay? The Skeptic: Orange Mike
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874:Q&A on Public Relations and Knowledge (XXG)
1348:Fox News, a flight of RfAs, and banning policy
1153:Truth or consequences? A tough month for truth
471:Fox News, a flight of RfAs, and banning policy
276:Truth or consequences? A tough month for truth
1894:Report of diploma mill offering pay for edits
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250:"Knowledge (XXG) and the assault on history"
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1946:Proposal to pay editors for contributions
1907:AstroTurf PR firm discovered astroturfing
1322:Knowledge (XXG) for promotional purposes?
1069:Proposal to pay editors for contributions
1030:AstroTurf PR firm discovered astroturfing
445:Knowledge (XXG) for promotional purposes?
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393:How billionaires rewrite Knowledge (XXG)
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