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were portrayed by. A lot of simple individual connections taken together are powerful. If you add on top of that the wide range of topics
Wikidata covers it becomes even more powerful because you can make connections that have not been made before. How about a list of species named after politicians? Now possible, thanks to these simple connections! And those are just the connections inside Wikidata itself; Wikidata also connects to a large amount of external databases, catalogs and projects that make even more data available. Since Wikidata has such a large number of links to external resources it can act as a hub so that way you, and even more importantly any machine, can find a vast amount of additional information based on a single piece of data. If the ISBN of a book is known, then knowing its entry in the relevant national library is just a hop away. There might not be a direct link from an artist’s entry in the Louvre’s catalog to their entry in the Rijksmuseum’s catalog but with Wikidata this connection is easily made, opening up yet more options for discovering knowledge.
944:(XXG) in the language of that Knowledge (XXG), which in the general case may be different. It makes plenty of sense to record the short descriptions from all Wikipedias in Wikidata, but not to source them from Wikidata, as they should be written by the people who write the articles, and who know what the articles are actually about, and preferably are sufficiently competent in the language used and sufficiently knowledgeable to write an adequate short description (not always easy, as some articles have a very poorly written lead section). The appropriate short description may change as the article changes, or as an editor of the article sees a better way to express it. It is also inherently sourced to the article itself as an editorial judgment by a Wikipedian. The labels on Wikidata are unsourced and their provenance is obscure. They may be fit for Wikidata purposes, but have been found unfit for English Knowledge (XXG) purposes. I do not presume to speak for other Wikipedias. Cheers, · · ·
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Knowledge (XXG) and at the same time created pages for millions of concepts on Wikidata, providing the basis for the next stage. Once the initial set of concepts were created and connected to Knowledge (XXG) articles, it was time for the actual data to be added, introducing the ability to make statements about the concepts (e.g. Berlin is the capital of Germany). After that, last but not least, came the capability to use this data in Knowledge (XXG) articles. Now Knowledge (XXG) editors could enrich their infoboxes automatically with data coming from Wikidata.
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Knowledge (XXG) to see if any of them has a particularly narrow gender gap so we can learn from them. We can also see the geographic distribution of Knowledge (XXG)’s content and find blind spots on Knowledge (XXG)’s map of the world. The same can be done for any other content bias or gap that needs to be understood better. This way, Wikidata helps Knowledge (XXG) learn more about itself.
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