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397:انجمن پژوهشگران سیاسی یک نهاد ملی سیاسی و متشکل از برترین نخبگان و پژوهشگران متفکر سیاسی می باشد این نهاد علمی و پژوهشی در خرداد ماه ۱۳۷۷ با حکم رییس جمهوری دولت اصلاحات دکتر سید محمد خاتمی به ریاست مرحوم دکتر حسن حبیبی فعالیت خود را آغاز کرد که پس از مرحوم حسن حبیبی شهید والامقام و نخستین قربانی سیاست هسته ای دانشمند شهید اردشير حسین پور اولین شهید هسته ای ریاست انجمن پژوهشگران سیاسی را بر عهده گرفت رؤسای پیشین این انجمن پس از دانشمند شهید اردشير حسین پور زنده یاد تقی نوربخش آقای احمد توکلی آقای مهدی نجاتی بیرانوند آقای حسین صالحی این مرکز علمی و سیاسی که مهد برجسته ترین نخبگان سیاسی و پژوهشگران برجسته و سیاستگزاران قهار ملی و بین المللی در جمهوری اسلامی ایران است اکنون ریاست این انجمن سیاسی بر عهده سیاستگزار ملی و مدیر جنوبی تبار بوشهری آقای ناصر قدسیانی می باشد. 49:
There are a number of cases where a party formally either merges or dissolves (or splits, often around name changes) and a legally new organisation subsequently emerges using the name and claiming the legacy of the previous party. And usually the "resurrected" party is a much smaller entity with less
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The general rule is that English translations of party name ought to be used in the name of an article. But in many cases a variety of translations are possible. In some cases guidance can be taken from websites of a party or organization, or from promotional material of the party in question.
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In the case of most parties of non-English speaking countries no well-established naming convention is present in international English-language newsmedia. The party name ought to be translated into English with the generical meaning intact, even if such a translation is different from the
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has been initiated to assess the communities’ understanding of our title decision making policy. As a project that has created or influenced subject specific naming conventions, participants in this project are encouraged to review and participate in the
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English-language name presented at the website of the party. Translations imported from party websites should only be used in cases were the generic meaning remains unchanged (like whether to use 'Labour' or 'Labor', 'Popular' or 'People's', etc.). "
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However, I still don't understand how Exception No. 4 is applied to Belgium. The main parties, whether French-, Dutch- or German-speaking, have names with obvious translations and are referred in English in English media (the only exception is
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This inconsistency is simply unacceptable to me and I already proposed to discuss the issue in order to find a general rule consistent with the fact that most parties in en.Wiki have English names in order to make life easier to readers. In
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is never refered to in English-language media as 'Unity'. If local media don't translate the name from one language to another, foreign media generally follows the same naming pattern. --
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Anyone got any thoughts on the best advice for how to handle such situations? I'm not convinced the current arrangement always gives the main namespace to the strongest claimant.
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Could someone please explain the reasons for Exception No. 4? Because I am not able to see any sense in that, or to think of any reason for that. Also, through using the word
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only one user strongly opposed the all-English solution and nothing was done. I confirm my opinion in support of all-English names (with the only possible exceptions of
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And the biggest mess I'm aware of (including a mix of English and Afrikaner names - and that linguistic division is not unimportant for some of the splits):
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namespace, another situation with multiple splits that in most cases saw the minority faction carry on with the name (at least in the long term).
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policy. That contentiousness has led to efforts to improve the overall effectiveness of the policy and associated processes. An RFC entitled:
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Belgium parties seem to be a mess all round. Most English language media coverage I've seen of them tends to hide behind acronyms like "
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in the rule, isn't it a bit of nonsense anyway? Can't be too hard finding at least one single mention of the translated name... --
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political impact than the original at its height, but it's not always clear which should get the name.
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and, maybe, of the two green parties) and I hope to see a new discussion of the subject. --
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is the post dissolution ressurected party, with the more significant historic party at
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And of course Communist Parties in general pose numerous problems in this field.
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Over the past several months there has been contentious debate over aspects of
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was formed but dissolved after two years. Anti-dissolutionists formed the
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Knowledge (XXG) talk:Article titles/RFC-Article title decision practice
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Because English-language media tends to follow the same principle.
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There's also issues about which party or parties should get the
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Differentiation between media usage and self-presentation
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I propose including the following chapter into the text:
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are held by the parties that merged in 1988 to form the
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Index

Soman
08:47, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Liberal Party (UK)
Social Democratic Party (UK)
Liberal Democrats
Liberal Party (UK, 1989)
Social Democratic Party (UK, 1988)
Social Democratic Party (UK, 1990)
Democratic Labor Party
Democratic Labor Party (historical)
Communist Party of Australia
Communist Party of Australia (defunct)
Communist Party of Australia (revived)
National Party (South Africa)
National Party (South Africa)
Gesuiwerde Nasionale Party
Herenigde Nasionale Party
New National Party (South Africa)
Sinn Féin
Timrollpickering
talk
19:42, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Completefailure
talk
22:06, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Batasuna
Soman
talk
00:57, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Vlaams Belang

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