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While NES and SNES games do indeed follow this guideline, there are a large number of Game Boy Color ports of games that have (Game Boy Color video game) in their title instead of (GBC video game). Is this something that should be fixed? Or is "Game Boy" considered a single word here? I don't see GBC
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I'm happy with NES and SNES, but on the fence with GBC and GBA. I think we can just make this policy consistent by referring to specific platforms. I definitely don't think "Super
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