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828:- as someone who has generally lived in domiciles represented by at least five levels of geography that directly elect representatives according to unique boundaries, in addition to historical and special-purpose units, I wouldn't expect for any of them to lose the presumption of Notability because they are not cities/towns/villages or because some wikilawyer doesn't consider them to be "communities". Where there is a layer of administrative geography that doesn't generate significant coverage for each constituent unit, that makes a great candidate for merging to the overall level of organization (and redirecting the components), but losing GEOLAND coverage for the units doesn't help to produce that outcome; instead it just encourages discussions to be held at AfD when they would be better handled in a proposed Merge format, IMO. 757:
district, a pipeline/ water district, a now-irrelevant but still extant tuberculosis/ sanitarium district, a fire protection district, park district, a school district plus others. Except in some highly specialized conversation, I'd never use any of these to communicate where I live. I'm not worried about the articles that we have; I'm worried that the world has (a good guess) 10's of millions of these abstract entities and nothing stopping mass creations of these sourced only to a database. Also trying to get / offer some guidance when running across geostubs at NPP whether or not these get an automatic SNG pass because they are legally recognized and inhabited. This is not to say that such an article should not exist if it has contents and sources. I might try boldly adding a tweak on this.
3130:- I don't mind at all! That is how it read to me when User:Valeree specifically asked you to propose a "GEOLAND fix", which is what I had in mind when I referred to it being "singled out for special attention". I'm sorry if I'm continuing to get hold of the wrong end of the stick, but you are surely saying that although GEOLAND is one of the few SNGs which operates on alternative notability criteria to those of the GNG it ought not to, and proposing that GEOLAND should instead be made to conform to GNG. If so, that would be a huge change, regardless of the background. 1029: 238:
sources, articles written by locals and used multiple online maps to verify the coordinates. In addition, my work focuses on the villages liberated or returned to Azerbaijan as a result of the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh War. That is, these villages were announced both by the president of the Republic of Azerbaijan on Twitter and the mass media sources during and after the course of the war. These one are not random villages with non-notable localities. I am ready to cooperate if anything else is required not to mass delete them, thanks
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when a train station is non-notable, provided that a suitable target exists. But also things like flag stops arenā€™t always ā€œfeaturesā€ in the way that a boulder or bridge might be (there frankly might not be anything substantial there to signify it), so Iā€™m not 100% sure that all train stations can get lumped in there. Your proposal would certainly make things more concise, but I do think that the ā€œno inherent notabilityā€ phrase should be explicit in the text of the article guideline rather than reduced to a footnote. ā€”
2377:, for example, haven't had any administrative function since 1975, and they have a typical population of about 1,000. If we divided the whole world into subdivisions at this level and said they are all inherently notable then we'd have more articles on administrative subdivisions than everything else combined, most of them auto-generated geostubs. First-level conventional subdivisions of countries, like counties in the UK, are very likely to be notable, but I don't think we should go down to this level. 1555:
sewage treatment district (run by elected officials) a sanitarium district that nobody even knows exists, a park district run by elected officials, a legally defined 3 digit zip code area, a precinct which get's redrawn every few years, electoral districts that only exist for 1 gerrymandering cycle, plus dozens more. And then dozens more that aren't set up by the government (e.g. telephone area code areas) Those aren't really places and don't and shouldn't get presumed notability under an SNG.
31: 3097:- I hope you will not mind if I state simply for full clarity that I have not singled GEOLAND out for special attention, not am I proposing any special rules or changes for GEOLAND. Instead, I have said that GEOLAND should not been exempted from general proposals since it was the main area for the problematic mass-creation highlighted in the Carlossuarez46 and Lugnuts ARBCOM cases which ultimately led to the present RFC. 919: 874: 534: 493: 1443:. This section only applies to "populated places", and it makes it clear that anything which isn't normally thought of as a place doesn't count. So while cities, towns, villages etc with some form of legal recognition count, and common subdivisions such as states, counties, provinces etc likely would as well, that doesn't extend to electoral divisions or other kinds of administrative units. Someone from 2963:. The main argument I saw for "inherently" keeping these articles in the AfD discussions I reviewed was that they provided a location for local schools with minimal coverage to be merged to. (For the record, I do agree that it's a bit weird to give geographic places a "free pass" when other topics don't, but I felt that if "place" is taken to include "school district" anyway, it should be clarified.) 2246:
municipal level. Setting the 4th level as the threshold (which is, please confirm if I am wrong, what is intended to be codified here) is capricious, and does not properly address the question of how to differentiate small settlements with "legal recognition" from the the casuistry of those ad-hoc administrative divisions for the provision of services mentioned above.--Asqueladd (
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statistical information off databases to create thousands of content-less articles like the GNIS and Iranian census stubs that we have now spent years trying to clean up. Simply because it is some kind of district in which people live does not make it a "populated place", any more than, say, the North Lancashire Football League is a "populated place", or the
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purposes (like a census tract) or is for something that would not likely qualify as a settlement such as an abadi we may not presume they are notable but if the place is something that is a settlement it should qualify and the 3 examples do have other sources and its highly likely for most such places there would be other coverage.
3075:) that articles created under GEOLAND have been singled out for special attention by the editor FOARP (inter alia, see above), who has been asked to present to the RfC his proposals for changes to GEOLAND as regards mass creation (and doubtless also mass deletion a bit later). This warrants close attention, I would think. 2567:) but it doesn't appear anything lower than that exists. So unless like Scotland that formerly functioned (and are still used for statistical purposes) or at least are notable in some other way such units might not satisfy this but again they probably wouldn't qualify as municipalities or equivalences. 1577:- I could go with insisting that the ā€œplaceā€ at least has to exhibit some level of self-governance. The issue is that this too does not really clarify things that much (does a railway district govern itself? A television area?). Better just to say that all of them must eventually pass GNG to be frank. 3504:
this may well have been an example of the article creator simply assuming that the place in the Iranian census (which does not only list villages but instead simply counts people around a named feature that may not be a community in any real sense) was the same as the place named on GNS without there
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a parish is formed within an unparished area but only covering a small part of it and such parishes can be though of as being urban though they have their own council so will be notable. In terms of pre-1974 parishes that didn't have a settlement of the same name and were never rural parishes and the
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is exactly the sort of nonsense inclusionism I oppose. Some folks think Knowledge (XXG) needs a carve-out for schools because it attracts student editors (to vandalize). The problem with writing an encyclopedia is that you need sources to support content and anything short of GNG is an obvious appeal
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Regarding flag stops, assuming we only look at active ones they would still be advertised as "the train can stop at this position", so I'd argue they are still artificial features. There are cases where it's advertised that a train can stop anywhere along a given area, but these cases generally don't
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I canā€™t think of any SNG that would be lighter than GNG and apply to a train station except possibly the ā€œcultural heritageā€ and ā€œnational heritageā€ parts of NGEO (the RfC didnā€™t really touch on these sorts of edge cases). Upmerging/redirecting non-notable articles makes sense to me as a standard ATD
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In addition, I just do not understand what you expect as a reliable source for more than 4,000 Azerbaijani villages in the future. Should CNN or BBC journalists travel each village and prepare a video report from there?! I indicated the official government data published recently as a source and even
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Perhaps a solution would be to merge these mini-stubs into a list article keeping all the infoboxes. If the list becomes too long it could be divided alphabetically or by district. If more reliable sourced information for a village appears in the future it can be spun out to a seperate article, in my
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having similar boundaries. Rural parish generally had stable boundaries and corresponded to natural boundaries of places. Urban parishes on the other did not have their own councils and instead relied on the district council. The did however until 1930 have electoral roles and there did seem to be a
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As far as I understand administrative units and electoral divisions are presumed to be notable and census tracts are generally not notable. What about settlements and similar that have census data? As far as I'm aware if the place is a settlement such as a city, town village or even hamlet or suburb
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I don't think those exclusions would likely apply as census tracts are simply random areas for census which don't have any administrative function and don't have any physical existence. Similarly for abadi which are often small areas like farms etc rather than towns or villages but have census data
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rather than geographic features, I'd think. They are often notable because they are government entities that oversee education and individual schools, not because they are populated places. There is not consensus to call districts automatically notable: there are over 16,000 in the US alone but far
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We probably need to further clarify what settlements etc are presumed notable, generally I've understood this to be cities, towns and villages even without census data as long as there is a source to support that it is a settlement of that classification or if its a hamlet or suburb census data for
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I oppose the idea of the table. You have to be consistent across Knowledge (XXG), in this case, you have to apply the same approach to all Azerbaijani, Armenian, Georgian, Russian etc. settlements where they have very little information. We have stubs for this. This will leave you with a handful of
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A quick review of the articles would suggest a table with all the basic facts that would otherwise be in an infobox would be a better solution, which also allows 1) searchable redirects to this table 2) blue links for actual settlements that meet NGEO guidelines alongside the non-notable ones as to
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The phraseology concerning merging non-notable features to some enclosing feature's article lacks consensus, in my observation. From what I see (and this is certainly my PoV) articles on classes of features held non-notable by default (such a subdivisions) have been deleted unless they pass GNG on
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in which of course people happen to live, overlapping with other random administrative delimitations) may not necessarily warrant an article, the latter of which, I may lean to agree with. For that matter, that kind of examples arguably also spans to random "administrative" delimitations above the
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I don't think we should be recognising very low-level divisions like that as inherently notable. It's one thing to say that for the UK, where we have plenty of documentation available, but this would apply to every country in the world. Are low level units like that in, say, Uzbekistan inherently
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Sometimes if you can put into words what people already know by common sense it is helpful. In essence, no presumed notability for the more abstract areas. Beside meeting SNG criteria and suitable RS sourcing that they exist, they would need to be how somebody describes "this is where I live" to
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It will vary depending on where you are, but I think it has to be a "place" in the usual sense of the term (somewhere people would use as a geographic indicator), people have to live there, and it has to have some kind of recognition from some government agency as an administrative subdivision or
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created these village articles based on the GEOnet Names Server back in 2008 which had numerous misspellings in the titles and outdated data such as old names. My creations/edits were primarily based on the official government directory published recently. I also verified this with other domestic
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case - even if people think this proves the existence/notability of these places, we really don't need to have an article for each place if there's no real information in them other than the name of the place and its population (which is really the only thing that the sources in the articles tell
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which do not appear to show up in any maps or census data etc which again may not be notable. All or almost all of the civil parish groups articles in England appear to have been created in the mistaken belief there was a CP with that name and I've previusly argued they aren't notable but on 2nd
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I appreciate efforts such as this to further define what should be presumed notable or non-notable and thus shrink the gray area in between where disputes inevitably o arise; however, I don't support this particular proposal. Presuming notability of "4th order divisions" would be problematic for
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Yes civil parishes in Scotland haven't function administratively but their boundaries are generally based on "natural" boundaries and even if you assumed that if they were created in 1975 with no functions they weren't notable they did exist before 1975 with functions. With respect to England in
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to be notable (which seems to be the intent of the proposal) appears to be a major departure from GEOLAND without any real justification. The Arondissements of Montreal, for example, are clearly notable, even though they could be interpreted as fifth-order divisions in the sense of the proposal.
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This also clarifies that terms can differ in different parts of the world for example the term "county" (in the ceremonial counties sense) is similar to what would in the US be a "state" while the term "county" in the US is what Austria and England would describe as a "district" and what Denmark
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which may well also qualify as legally-recognized. A village in England is generally distinguished from a hamlet as having a church. Most villages that weren't at least at some point an administrative unit (not many) would probably have coverage on the settlement or at least church. Hamlets and
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I strongly disagree with any statement that merely being a "administrative units and electoral divisions" means presumed notability under the SNG. My place is a city in a county in a state in a country. I'm also in dozens of abstract government recognized geographic divisions. For example, a
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these places don't have and administrative function but there is census data provided for these places and unlike Basildon 010A which is a census tract that doesn't match anything on the ground the 1st 3 examples do. So I agree with FOARP in that if the census unit exists purely for statistical
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first destroy the contents of my articles by throwing away everything inside, and then they report them for deletion. It is completely absurd to deny the existence of localities in the situation of credible sources, and such sources are in every article created by me. For these two users, mass
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Are train stations for heavy rail networks notable simply because we can verify that they exist? The closest thing we have in this guideline is guidance around "artificial features related to infrastructure", the examples for which are bridges and dams. Since railroads are a form of physical
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and the following the common meaning of that term. While they are often defined by legal stuff and lines on a map, I think that those administrative aspects are secondary to the criteria. IMO opening up a whole new area (administrative units) for presumed notability would be at best very
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Generally this is taken to mean the main names commonly used to identify the location. For example, the name of the town that I live in and the name of the state that I live in. But I live in about 12 other legally recognized districts on the map, all with different boundaries. A library
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Adding school districts (or anything else actually) into this guide as something that ends up being interpreted as automatically notable is not something that should be done full-stop. If anything the scope of this guide should be reduced due to its tendency to function as an excuse to copy
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I like the table idea. When you look at the amount of actual useful information in most of these articles (including the infobox) it really comes down to coordinates and population; there's a lot of extra stuff like time zone, postal code, telephone code, etc that we don't need to retain.
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Yes I think if the place can be shown to be a city, town, village or even hamlet or suburb as opposed to something like an abadi its reasonable to count is as being notable. Most such places will tend to have other coverage anyway. Keep in mind that a settlement generally won't have any
222:, so you must STOP creating articles without approval. These are low-quality articles of questionable notability and styles inconsistent with other articles, and you will be reported at ANI if you do not cease immediately and seek approval for such semi-automated bulk article creation. 2937:
Poorly-attended AfDs with an eye to the circular reasoning of OUTCOMES is the sort of inclusionist foolishness that caused me to turn away from that ideology. This notability guideline is already overbroad. I do not care to opine why we seek to keep articles which do not pass GNG.
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settlements should also be condensed into a table. The settlements will still be searchable and the little information we have documented, and if they eventually can be expanded, then a standalone can be made. But this applies to all those settlements in those other countries too.
1451:, for example, so that's not a "place". The problem with that AfD is that there is no evidence that those places exist apart from the census, and merely appearing as designations in a census isn't enough to make them presumed to be notable - they might not be populated places. 3175:(a player who was apparently not known by that name) are both problematic for similar reasons, and as such there is no good reason to address one but not the other. To be honest I don't think there is any "fix" I can offer Valereee beyond that simple value-statement. 2881:, redirecting villages with hundreds of people and adding big tables with Kurds repeated in every column. Doesn't seem right to me, why shouldn't settlements with hundreds of people have their own articles, is he aware of our general guidelines on populated places? ā™¦ 2767:
I think a lot of the concerns raised here point to this guidance being needed its just that the precise wording etc may need to be more detailed namely explaining which types are not notable and which types may be NN as well as those that are presumed notable.
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until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
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I wouldn't be opposed to having something about administrative units, at least the higher level ones, but this suggestion is rather generous and the parts designed to avoid including sewage treatment districts and the like come across as rather convoluted.
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Since I also have to use other US government websites as part of my work (especially the USPTO website), US government websites basically not working for extended periods of time is something I am used to, but this is unusual even by that low standard.
2905:. Saying "Kurdish people live there" in a country with a substantial Kurdish population, repeatedly across multiple articles, is not obviously better than simply saying it in one article. You yourself have said you are OK with this kind of redirection. 1418:
The idea that self-governance is required for GEOLAND Notability would be absurdly ethnocentric - there are whole national units that lack meaningful self-governance at any level. Officially recognized administrative units are equally covered (e.g. the
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I can't speak for other countries as much but for English settlements generally the consensus seems to be. Cities, towns and villages are generally presumed notable as long as it can be shown that they are that class which seems to be supported by
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Just clarifying, this is about "legally recognized communities". The minor tweaks that I already did are consistent with your thought process. In essence, still grant presumed notability to all of those five levels of geography that you describe.
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says "Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable" but then says "Census tracts, Abadi, and other areas not commonly recognized as a place (such as the area in an irrigation district) are not presumed to be notable".
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guidelines/policies, not predetermine them. The amendments to NSPORTS basically have negated the "Almanac" part of it in as much as they applied to sports almanacs and the community can do the same to the "gazetteer" part of it if we so choose.
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Well in England was have around 96.4% of municipalities while most other countries in the world appear to have 100% though this may be partly due to the English ones having relatively little function compared to many other countries. Looking on
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are also presumed to be notable, other divisions are subject to the "populated places without legal recognition". For guidance on if administrative units should have separate articles from the places with the same name they are named after, see
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may be significant to local neighborhood, may be of curiosity to city level or at the most regional level audience so I felt may be good for local guide or regional encyclopedia. For WP as encyclopedic catering to international audience, IMO
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are more controversial, sometimes they have standalone articles, sometimes they are redirected to their parish or (for suburbs) the town they are in. For those that aren't OS settlements they are generally merged like previous or deleted, see
128:) - Russian village articles based on population charts, heavily padded with sources that are either autogenerated cruft or don't even mention the villages in question. The creations have continued even after this was pointed out to them. 2275:
there isn't. The settlements within the 4th order unit are generally subject to the "Populated places" notability criteria. For countries that have lower level units still these may well be notable for example in England there was once
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but in such cases of grouped civil parishes there is no such division as "Swilland and Witnesham" only a council covering the 2 separate parishes called "Swilland and Witnesham Grouped Parish Council". Similarly in Scotland there are
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I think generally GEOLAND#1 is either settlements that have census data (generally) or municipalities/districts or electoral divisions but not things like school districts though I would construed "legally recognized" quite broadly.
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were small tracts of an ancient parish that ended up in the urban district and thus the parish being split. Often such parishes were later merged into 1 parish with the same name as the urban district such as the parish of the
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complicated (given the large amount of non-notable, abstract, transient and obscure administration units e.g. sewage treatment districts). And at worst, problematic by removing the emphasis on it needing to be a recognized
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somebody who is not local. They might say that they live in the hamlet of Hooterville in Lake county, but they are never going to say "I live in the "Precinct #43 of Wentworth twonship" or "The Hooterville US Census tract".
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specifies that legally recognized places are generally inherently notable, usually when a low level municipality has the same name as a settlement it usually not given a separate article but 1 article deals with both such as
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something that's more than just a statistical designation. I made that comment in the DRV because you'd suggested it was notable because the OS had designated it as a place, I don't think that constitutes legal recognition.
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that are now largely defunct but are still used for statistical purposes and did previously have administrative roles and do still show up on some maps so would likely also be inherently notable on the other hand there are
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On the point of whether AFDs can function as a precedent, really they would have to be a lot more well-attended and have to be much more explicit as to whether the subject is notable per this guide than what is seen here.
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I don't agree with the proposal. I find the presumption that any level below the municipality "is subject to the populated places without legal recognition" by default to be poorly thought. I read in a thread above that
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Agree but we should also specify that things like country subdivisions (states, districts and municipalities) and formal regions are notable but other things like sewage treatment district etc aren't generally notable.
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I disagree strongly that pure census data should be enough to qualify anything as sufficiently notable for an article. Knowledge (XXG) is not a database - thatā€™s a very basic rule that predates Geoland and has a higher
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being any real reason to believe that because the GNS feature has multiple names and there are multiple other, different locations with the same name. But, without being able to load GNS at all I cannot check this.
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While the existence of census data for a place doesn't imply notability, administrative divisions that are officially recognized should be covered by GEOLAND whether or not they have self-governance institutions.
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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
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be "complete" in all settlements, and 3) allows for future expansion of standalones for individual settlements if they can be proven notable. Condensing that many infoboxes into a list is a really bad idea. --
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The reason for this is as well as clarifying things like districts are notable but also you're points about things like sewage districts not being notable otherwise people may well think they are. Aside from
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These aren't "populated places" in the sense of settlements (apart from Brunstock) but they are administrative divisions, these places are quite obviously inherently notable even if they aren't settlements.
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Honestly, I think the guideline works really badly and should be abandoned. The reason is the mass proliferation of geostubs based on pure statistical databases. The Abadi and GNIS cases show this in stark
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That's been a frequent outcome for extant stations with regular use, though nothing has automatic notability. Stations that no longer exist or are not regularly used are not considered as notable, and per
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If it is to mean anything, ā€œlegal recognitionā€ must mean recognition through a process of law, typically by conferring a level of self-governance. It cannot just be a purely statistical unit or division.
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a problem. Several times I've seen somebody take a train line with say 10 smallish stations on it and create 10 geostub articles on the 10 smallish stations. The outcomes page makes these hard to AFD.
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Regarding the new guideline you made, I feel this would be better as added to the "Artificial features related to infrastructure" with a footnote noting the lack of inherit notability? Something like
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dealing with both the settlement and municipality however for higher level divisions with boundaries that are more recent and are more modern creations we usually do have separate articles such as
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I'm unsure but I'm wandering, perhaps we should see if there is a non-binding consensus here on this. If they aren't notable they could be covered in the urban district's town. See discussion at
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Agree with North8000 in that the examples like sewage treatment districts wouldn't qualify but 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th order administrative units as well as formal regions would surely qualify.
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I'm not arguing for the gazetteer function (or anything in 5P) specifically, but IMO what is currently structurally lacking is that Knowledge (XXG) needs some highly consensused pages that
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notable? I'm sure if we say they are then somebody will try to create articles on them, even if it's only by copying some database of the kind that have caused so many problems in the past.
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Perhaps "Populated, legally recognized places" could be renamed "Legally recognized communities", since that would include cities/towns/villages but not such districts or census tracts.
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I wasn't able to see "The 2nd to last point also clarifies that things like sewage treatment districts would not be presumed to be notable." Could you point out and explain?
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need to add a criteria some thing like ".. Catering objective of fulfillment of encyclopedic curiosity of international audience and just not limited to local audience.."
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When I am talking about districts I'm referring to local government districts (or equivalences like American counties) not every unit that happens to be called a "district".
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I'm wondering what the best path forward is: Would it be best to get consensus for a mass deletion/redirect at Village Pump, or go straight to ANI to get this sorted out? ā€“
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Hi all, I've been trying for days to access the GNS system to check the existence or otherwise of some Iranian "villages" referenced to it. Every time I go to this link:
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That makes sense to me. Do you think it would be wise to explicitly mention railway stations in NGEO's examples of "artificial features related to infrastructure"? ā€”
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to finish and, if it closes with delete, then report this to the Autopatrolled talk page and see what they say. For the Azeri articles, this looks like the Turkish
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Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom/Archive 10#Proposed deletion of all articles on local government subdivisions wards, divisions etc.
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has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the
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has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the
3342:. Though the term "urban parish" no longer really has a legal meaning it does still kind of exist in that parishes that exist in former urban districts such as 2502: 1809:
should be enough, and the footnote just makes it extra clear. It seems people are also respecting the consensus from the recent train station AfD's and PROD's.
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Thanks for initiating discussion. I hate blind inclusionism as much as the next guy, but I was informed of this on my talk page and it seemed odd but correct,
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being merged in 1894. In 1974 the rural and urban distinction disappeared with most urban parishes being abolished and becoming unparished area but a few had
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This has already been highlighted on the Iran and Geography Delsorts, but interested parties who may have missed those notices can see the discussion here:
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Regarding the Azerbaijani village articles I created/edited, this was a 2-3-month job which required massive time and effort to investigate. Originally,
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I am not expecting any one to vote there or here. I am posting this just as referrence point for any future discussion @ this talk page in due course.
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I think that you are mixing the concept of settlements below the municipal level with the idea that a random "administrative" delimitation (such as a "
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Based on your initial post (specifically the first 4 bullets in it) I think that you mean per the primary geographic division system of the country.
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but aren't notable. This doesn't apply. Irrigation districts, unlikely but possible since the lack of function may put them in a similar category.
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creation is creating several articles a day for many months. The only thing that is massive is the thoughtless destruction of articles by them.
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seem to be respecting the consensus, but I think the best way to prevent future disruption is to keep the phrasing as explicit as possible. ā€”
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Avoids having to repeat ourselves here, as I don't believe we have any SNG less strict than GNG that railway stations can fit into. Thoughts?
964:. There are at least four other villages in India with the same name, one of which was the subject before it was discovered that it had beeen 3208: 3375:
says "This usually also applies to any other area that has a legally recognized government, such as counties, parishes and municipalities."
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thoughts I'm unsure as having its own council may well make an area notable even if there isn't actually an area but that name, thoughts?
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I don't think they do. They're a bit like airports - they're very very likely notable, but not enough to assume an automatic presumption.
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the direction for policies and guidelines to implement, not the other way around. IMO 5P is defacto one of those, probably the only one.
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village articles from Azerbaijan out of more than 4,000 Azerbaijani village articles here. The same applies to other regional countries.
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The short version of my posts with respect to the proposal is that I don't support the proposal. But thanks for the thought and work.
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GNG affects whether a topic deserves its own article. It has no concern over the content of articles, which may or may not fall under
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Major wording change to guideline cites "see talk" in edit summary without elaboration or link to disucssion. It has been reverted.
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To state the obvious, I have neither deleted anything from any of your articles, nor nominated any of your articles for deletion.
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Please be aware (1) that a moderated RfC on how to control mass creation of articles, particularly stubs, is now in progress at
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just had the name of the urban district plus another name like the name of a saint and were often more arbitrary and some like
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Looks like a valid redirection to me, since the articles being redirected are basically content-less articles about Turkish
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would describe as a "municipality" even though a "municipality" is the lowest level unit in many countries such as Austria.
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Examples of things I think would qualify in the sense of being a settlement with census data would likely pass GEOLAND are:
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pipeline/ water district, "tuberculosis/ sanitarium district, a fire protection district, park district, a school district"
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at least in the United States, where they essentially act as their own governments (even having the ability to levy taxes)
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The inclusion of a man-made geographical feature on maps or in directories is insufficient to establish topic notability
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includes 3 other settlements namely Kersey Tye, Kersey Upland, Wicker Street Green and William's Green. If you look at
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The 2nd to last point also clarifies that things like sewage treatment districts would not be presumed to be notable.
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notes but we have the more vague "Populated, legally recognized places" which seems to mainly deal with settlements.
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being deleted as not notable, I think we should add these alongside US census tracts. GEOLAND#1 would therefore read:
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of ILIKEIT by a certain subset most of whom registered an account a long time ago and no longer represent consensus.
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that prompted their creation, e.g., to an article about the notable road it carries or the notable obstacle it spans.
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We could certainly use specific guidance on the Iranian census, which does not always locate places to communities.
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Cities, towns and villages do not generally hold legal recognition but rather the unit named after them may like
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the parish of the same name holds it (and is governed by Kersey Parish Council). I don't think we would suggest
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smaller, sparsely populated, and/or under developed countries. For example, what's a 4th order division of the
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This is useful because it clarifies that such administrative units like municipalities are presumed notable as
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I just think this proposal will simply increase complexity without solving any of the major problems we have.
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We should add Iranian Abadi as an example of a place not considered to be a legally-recognised populated place
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Yes I hadn't thought about other divisions, might something like "1st order divisions (countries) such as
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You can see this with "Rural districts" in Iran - the sourcing is typically every bit as bad as the
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as reason to presume particular train stations are notable at AfD, though this feels akin to citing
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infrastructure, my reading is that train stations would fall under this guidance, which specifies
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Regarding explicitly noting the lack of inherent notability, I don't think this is necessary as
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for cases where a settlement has the same name as an administrative unit (or similar). Although
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as a reason to keep an article on a particular high school. I'm wondering what others think. ā€”
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could be described as being urban parishes and such parishes are sometimes controversial, see
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have articles created due to the lack of a station name so I don't think it would be an issue.
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What would in you're books be an example of a "populated, legally recognized place"? given at
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their own, which is to say, they enjoy some fame/notoriety beyond simply being documentable.
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doesn't qualify simply because its an administrative division and not a settlement or that
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administrative function but an administrative unit with the same name may do so. Look at
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This is already flagged on the Iran and Geo delsorts, but see here if you're interested:
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as far as I am concerned, but that is an old discussion. Anyway, it is only supposed to
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might consider themselves to be from Brooklyn, New York City or New York State, but not
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for example its a village and parish (municipality) and the village is an OS settlement
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Well settlements below the municipal level may be notable or may not be for example
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It also clarifies that some divisions may have greater functions that others like
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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called "Swilland and Witnesham Grouped Parish Council". Generally speaking per
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and so subject to a much higher notability standard to avoid self-advertising.
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but that abstract administrative entities does not get this special treatment.
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country subdivisions (states, districts and municipalities) and formal regions
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that may be things like mills, pumps, wells or factories etc may not qualify.
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had the same name as a settlement and would probably be presumed notable and
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are highly enclyclopedic and also the gazetteer function being mentioned in
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AFD regarding a Pakistani town with a population of more than 100,000 people
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List of burial places of justices of the Supreme Court of the United States
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You are basicaly saying that it would be "simple" to eliminate all SNG's.
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doesn't qualify because its a settlement and not administrative division.
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suburbs that are OS settlements (those that show up as "Other Settlement"
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and thus would generally be presumed to be notable though a few such as
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An even simpler fix would be to say that ALL articles must meet GNG. --
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regarding improving our management of geographical stubs.Ā The thread is
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The key problem may be their lack of a "legally recognized government".
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administrative units and electoral divisions are presumed to be notable
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it may not be worth having separate article due to the current parish
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There is a discussion and afd regarding district versus council at
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Do heavy rail train stations whose existence can be verified have
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saying municipalities and parishes are notable (and my essay on
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A simple fix would be to say that train stations must meet GNG.
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articles and there is typically no better sourcing available.
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as uninvolved user. There I referred guidelines mentioned @
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are generally presumed notable as are formal regions such as
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it would generally be notable. Recently it seems places like
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even if they don't have a separate parish council such as
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concluded train stations do not have inherited notability
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us), they are better simply redirected to district level.
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so would be presumed notable anyway. Some have have been
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is a poorly thought-out essay that directly clashes with
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that the otherwise-bar gets lowered a bit for recognized
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There is an editor going through Turkish districts like
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you apparently said that settlement was a census tract.
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Examples of things that GEOLAND#1 would likely apply to
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about not all administrative units satisfying GEOLAND.
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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article
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An example of a census tract that wouldn't qualify is
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Letchworth#Letchworth Garden City Council (2005ā€“2013)
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didn't. These for example would probably be notable.
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in order to have presumed notability. Sincerely,
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4th order divisions namely "municipalities" such as
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and other areas not commonly recognized as a place"
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its a non-metropolitan district and has a council (
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for some articles included secondary local sources.
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Some of them like 2061:does but both are presumed to be notable. 1135:Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Geography 1032:You are invited to join the discussion at 3420:Happened to participate in discussion @ 2505:. Specifically the fact that recognized 1993:"1st order divisions (countries) such as 1761:) can be notable under Knowledge (XXG)'s 931:Knowledge (XXG)'s policies and guidelines 3440:This reminds me another similar article 3243:and show up on maps and census data etc 1857: 498:Knowledge (XXG):Village pump (idea lab) 2980: 2416:would also surely pass, parishes like 2271:its municipality. 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