828:- as someone who has generally lived in domiciles represented by at least five levels of geography that directly elect representatives according to unique boundaries, in addition to historical and special-purpose units, I wouldn't expect for any of them to lose the presumption of Notability because they are not cities/towns/villages or because some wikilawyer doesn't consider them to be "communities". Where there is a layer of administrative geography that doesn't generate significant coverage for each constituent unit, that makes a great candidate for merging to the overall level of organization (and redirecting the components), but losing GEOLAND coverage for the units doesn't help to produce that outcome; instead it just encourages discussions to be held at AfD when they would be better handled in a proposed Merge format, IMO.
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district, a pipeline/ water district, a now-irrelevant but still extant tuberculosis/ sanitarium district, a fire protection district, park district, a school district plus others. Except in some highly specialized conversation, I'd never use any of these to communicate where I live. I'm not worried about the articles that we have; I'm worried that the world has (a good guess) 10's of millions of these abstract entities and nothing stopping mass creations of these sourced only to a database. Also trying to get / offer some guidance when running across geostubs at NPP whether or not these get an automatic SNG pass because they are legally recognized and inhabited. This is not to say that such an article should not exist if it has contents and sources. I might try boldly adding a tweak on this.
3130:- I don't mind at all! That is how it read to me when User:Valeree specifically asked you to propose a "GEOLAND fix", which is what I had in mind when I referred to it being "singled out for special attention". I'm sorry if I'm continuing to get hold of the wrong end of the stick, but you are surely saying that although GEOLAND is one of the few SNGs which operates on alternative notability criteria to those of the GNG it ought not to, and proposing that GEOLAND should instead be made to conform to GNG. If so, that would be a huge change, regardless of the background.
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sources, articles written by locals and used multiple online maps to verify the coordinates. In addition, my work focuses on the villages liberated or returned to
Azerbaijan as a result of the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh War. That is, these villages were announced both by the president of the Republic of Azerbaijan on Twitter and the mass media sources during and after the course of the war. These one are not random villages with non-notable localities. I am ready to cooperate if anything else is required not to mass delete them, thanks
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when a train station is non-notable, provided that a suitable target exists. But also things like flag stops arenāt always āfeaturesā in the way that a boulder or bridge might be (there frankly might not be anything substantial there to signify it), so Iām not 100% sure that all train stations can get lumped in there. Your proposal would certainly make things more concise, but I do think that the āno inherent notabilityā phrase should be explicit in the text of the article guideline rather than reduced to a footnote. ā
2377:, for example, haven't had any administrative function since 1975, and they have a typical population of about 1,000. If we divided the whole world into subdivisions at this level and said they are all inherently notable then we'd have more articles on administrative subdivisions than everything else combined, most of them auto-generated geostubs. First-level conventional subdivisions of countries, like counties in the UK, are very likely to be notable, but I don't think we should go down to this level.
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sewage treatment district (run by elected officials) a sanitarium district that nobody even knows exists, a park district run by elected officials, a legally defined 3 digit zip code area, a precinct which get's redrawn every few years, electoral districts that only exist for 1 gerrymandering cycle, plus dozens more. And then dozens more that aren't set up by the government (e.g. telephone area code areas) Those aren't really places and don't and shouldn't get presumed notability under an SNG.
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3097:- I hope you will not mind if I state simply for full clarity that I have not singled GEOLAND out for special attention, not am I proposing any special rules or changes for GEOLAND. Instead, I have said that GEOLAND should not been exempted from general proposals since it was the main area for the problematic mass-creation highlighted in the Carlossuarez46 and Lugnuts ARBCOM cases which ultimately led to the present RFC.
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2963:. The main argument I saw for "inherently" keeping these articles in the AfD discussions I reviewed was that they provided a location for local schools with minimal coverage to be merged to. (For the record, I do agree that it's a bit weird to give geographic places a "free pass" when other topics don't, but I felt that if "place" is taken to include "school district" anyway, it should be clarified.)
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municipal level. Setting the 4th level as the threshold (which is, please confirm if I am wrong, what is intended to be codified here) is capricious, and does not properly address the question of how to differentiate small settlements with "legal recognition" from the the casuistry of those ad-hoc administrative divisions for the provision of services mentioned above.--Asqueladd (
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statistical information off databases to create thousands of content-less articles like the GNIS and
Iranian census stubs that we have now spent years trying to clean up. Simply because it is some kind of district in which people live does not make it a "populated place", any more than, say, the North Lancashire Football League is a "populated place", or the
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purposes (like a census tract) or is for something that would not likely qualify as a settlement such as an abadi we may not presume they are notable but if the place is something that is a settlement it should qualify and the 3 examples do have other sources and its highly likely for most such places there would be other coverage.
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2567:) but it doesn't appear anything lower than that exists. So unless like Scotland that formerly functioned (and are still used for statistical purposes) or at least are notable in some other way such units might not satisfy this but again they probably wouldn't qualify as municipalities or equivalences.
1577:- I could go with insisting that the āplaceā at least has to exhibit some level of self-governance. The issue is that this too does not really clarify things that much (does a railway district govern itself? A television area?). Better just to say that all of them must eventually pass GNG to be frank.
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this may well have been an example of the article creator simply assuming that the place in the
Iranian census (which does not only list villages but instead simply counts people around a named feature that may not be a community in any real sense) was the same as the place named on GNS without there
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a parish is formed within an unparished area but only covering a small part of it and such parishes can be though of as being urban though they have their own council so will be notable. In terms of pre-1974 parishes that didn't have a settlement of the same name and were never rural parishes and the
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is exactly the sort of nonsense inclusionism I oppose. Some folks think
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Regarding flag stops, assuming we only look at active ones they would still be advertised as "the train can stop at this position", so I'd argue they are still artificial features. There are cases where it's advertised that a train can stop anywhere along a given area, but these cases generally don't
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I canāt think of any SNG that would be lighter than GNG and apply to a train station except possibly the ācultural heritageā and ānational heritageā parts of NGEO (the RfC didnāt really touch on these sorts of edge cases). Upmerging/redirecting non-notable articles makes sense to me as a standard ATD
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Perhaps a solution would be to merge these mini-stubs into a list article keeping all the infoboxes. If the list becomes too long it could be divided alphabetically or by district. If more reliable sourced information for a village appears in the future it can be spun out to a seperate article, in my
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having similar boundaries. Rural parish generally had stable boundaries and corresponded to natural boundaries of places. Urban parishes on the other did not have their own councils and instead relied on the district council. The did however until 1930 have electoral roles and there did seem to be a
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As far as I understand administrative units and electoral divisions are presumed to be notable and census tracts are generally not notable. What about settlements and similar that have census data? As far as I'm aware if the place is a settlement such as a city, town village or even hamlet or suburb
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I don't think those exclusions would likely apply as census tracts are simply random areas for census which don't have any administrative function and don't have any physical existence. Similarly for abadi which are often small areas like farms etc rather than towns or villages but have census data
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rather than geographic features, I'd think. They are often notable because they are government entities that oversee education and individual schools, not because they are populated places. There is not consensus to call districts automatically notable: there are over 16,000 in the US alone but far
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We probably need to further clarify what settlements etc are presumed notable, generally I've understood this to be cities, towns and villages even without census data as long as there is a source to support that it is a settlement of that classification or if its a hamlet or suburb census data for
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I oppose the idea of the table. You have to be consistent across
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A quick review of the articles would suggest a table with all the basic facts that would otherwise be in an infobox would be a better solution, which also allows 1) searchable redirects to this table 2) blue links for actual settlements that meet NGEO guidelines alongside the non-notable ones as to
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The phraseology concerning merging non-notable features to some enclosing feature's article lacks consensus, in my observation. From what I see (and this is certainly my PoV) articles on classes of features held non-notable by default (such a subdivisions) have been deleted unless they pass GNG on
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in which of course people happen to live, overlapping with other random administrative delimitations) may not necessarily warrant an article, the latter of which, I may lean to agree with. For that matter, that kind of examples arguably also spans to random "administrative" delimitations above the
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I don't think we should be recognising very low-level divisions like that as inherently notable. It's one thing to say that for the UK, where we have plenty of documentation available, but this would apply to every country in the world. Are low level units like that in, say, Uzbekistan inherently
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Sometimes if you can put into words what people already know by common sense it is helpful. In essence, no presumed notability for the more abstract areas. Beside meeting SNG criteria and suitable RS sourcing that they exist, they would need to be how somebody describes "this is where I live" to
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It will vary depending on where you are, but I think it has to be a "place" in the usual sense of the term (somewhere people would use as a geographic indicator), people have to live there, and it has to have some kind of recognition from some government agency as an administrative subdivision or
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case - even if people think this proves the existence/notability of these places, we really don't need to have an article for each place if there's no real information in them other than the name of the place and its population (which is really the only thing that the sources in the articles tell
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which do not appear to show up in any maps or census data etc which again may not be notable. All or almost all of the civil parish groups articles in
England appear to have been created in the mistaken belief there was a CP with that name and I've previusly argued they aren't notable but on 2nd
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I appreciate efforts such as this to further define what should be presumed notable or non-notable and thus shrink the gray area in between where disputes inevitably o arise; however, I don't support this particular proposal. Presuming notability of "4th order divisions" would be problematic for
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Scotland haven't function administratively but their boundaries are generally based on "natural" boundaries and even if you assumed that if they were created in 1975 with no functions they weren't notable they did exist before 1975 with functions. With respect to England in
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to be notable (which seems to be the intent of the proposal) appears to be a major departure from GEOLAND without any real justification. The
Arondissements of Montreal, for example, are clearly notable, even though they could be interpreted as fifth-order divisions in the sense of the proposal.
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This also clarifies that terms can differ in different parts of the world for example the term "county" (in the ceremonial counties sense) is similar to what would in the US be a "state" while the term "county" in the US is what
Austria and England would describe as a "district" and what Denmark
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which may well also qualify as legally-recognized. A village in
England is generally distinguished from a hamlet as having a church. Most villages that weren't at least at some point an administrative unit (not many) would probably have coverage on the settlement or at least church. Hamlets and
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I strongly disagree with any statement that merely being a "administrative units and electoral divisions" means presumed notability under the SNG. My place is a city in a county in a state in a country. I'm also in dozens of abstract government recognized geographic divisions. For example, a
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these places don't have and administrative function but there is census data provided for these places and unlike Basildon 010A which is a census tract that doesn't match anything on the ground the 1st 3 examples do. So I agree with FOARP in that if the census unit exists purely for statistical
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first destroy the contents of my articles by throwing away everything inside, and then they report them for deletion. It is completely absurd to deny the existence of localities in the situation of credible sources, and such sources are in every article created by me. For these two users, mass
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Are train stations for heavy rail networks notable simply because we can verify that they exist? The closest thing we have in this guideline is guidance around "artificial features related to infrastructure", the examples for which are bridges and dams. Since railroads are a form of physical
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and the following the common meaning of that term. While they are often defined by legal stuff and lines on a map, I think that those administrative aspects are secondary to the criteria. IMO opening up a whole new area (administrative units) for presumed notability would be at best very
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Generally this is taken to mean the main names commonly used to identify the location. For example, the name of the town that I live in and the name of the state that I live in. But I live in about 12 other legally recognized districts on the map, all with different boundaries. A library
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Adding school districts (or anything else actually) into this guide as something that ends up being interpreted as automatically notable is not something that should be done full-stop. If anything the scope of this guide should be reduced due to its tendency to function as an excuse to copy
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I like the table idea. When you look at the amount of actual useful information in most of these articles (including the infobox) it really comes down to coordinates and population; there's a lot of extra stuff like time zone, postal code, telephone code, etc that we don't need to retain.
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Yes I think if the place can be shown to be a city, town, village or even hamlet or suburb as opposed to something like an abadi its reasonable to count is as being notable. Most such places will tend to have other coverage anyway. Keep in mind that a settlement generally won't have any
222:, so you must STOP creating articles without approval. These are low-quality articles of questionable notability and styles inconsistent with other articles, and you will be reported at ANI if you do not cease immediately and seek approval for such semi-automated bulk article creation.
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Poorly-attended AfDs with an eye to the circular reasoning of OUTCOMES is the sort of inclusionist foolishness that caused me to turn away from that ideology. This notability guideline is already overbroad. I do not care to opine why we seek to keep articles which do not pass GNG.
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settlements should also be condensed into a table. The settlements will still be searchable and the little information we have documented, and if they eventually can be expanded, then a standalone can be made. But this applies to all those settlements in those other countries too.
1451:, for example, so that's not a "place". The problem with that AfD is that there is no evidence that those places exist apart from the census, and merely appearing as designations in a census isn't enough to make them presumed to be notable - they might not be populated places.
3175:(a player who was apparently not known by that name) are both problematic for similar reasons, and as such there is no good reason to address one but not the other. To be honest I don't think there is any "fix" I can offer Valereee beyond that simple value-statement.
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I think a lot of the concerns raised here point to this guidance being needed its just that the precise wording etc may need to be more detailed namely explaining which types are not notable and which types may be NN as well as those that are presumed notable.
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until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
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I wouldn't be opposed to having something about administrative units, at least the higher level ones, but this suggestion is rather generous and the parts designed to avoid including sewage treatment districts and the like come across as rather convoluted.
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Since I also have to use other US government websites as part of my work (especially the USPTO website), US government websites basically not working for extended periods of time is something I am used to, but this is unusual even by that low standard.
2905:. Saying "Kurdish people live there" in a country with a substantial Kurdish population, repeatedly across multiple articles, is not obviously better than simply saying it in one article. You yourself have said you are OK with this kind of redirection.
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The idea that self-governance is required for GEOLAND Notability would be absurdly ethnocentric - there are whole national units that lack meaningful self-governance at any level. Officially recognized administrative units are equally covered (e.g. the
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I can't speak for other countries as much but for English settlements generally the consensus seems to be. Cities, towns and villages are generally presumed notable as long as it can be shown that they are that class which seems to be supported by
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Just clarifying, this is about "legally recognized communities". The minor tweaks that I already did are consistent with your thought process. In essence, still grant presumed notability to all of those five levels of geography that you describe.
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says "Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable" but then says "Census tracts, Abadi, and other areas not commonly recognized as a place (such as the area in an irrigation district) are not presumed to be notable".
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guidelines/policies, not predetermine them. The amendments to NSPORTS basically have negated the "Almanac" part of it in as much as they applied to sports almanacs and the community can do the same to the "gazetteer" part of it if we so choose.
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Well in England was have around 96.4% of municipalities while most other countries in the world appear to have 100% though this may be partly due to the English ones having relatively little function compared to many other countries. Looking on
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are also presumed to be notable, other divisions are subject to the "populated places without legal recognition". For guidance on if administrative units should have separate articles from the places with the same name they are named after, see
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may be significant to local neighborhood, may be of curiosity to city level or at the most regional level audience so I felt may be good for local guide or regional encyclopedia. For WP as encyclopedic catering to international audience, IMO
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are more controversial, sometimes they have standalone articles, sometimes they are redirected to their parish or (for suburbs) the town they are in. For those that aren't OS settlements they are generally merged like previous or deleted, see
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there isn't. The settlements within the 4th order unit are generally subject to the "Populated places" notability criteria. For countries that have lower level units still these may well be notable for example in England there was once
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but in such cases of grouped civil parishes there is no such division as "Swilland and Witnesham" only a council covering the 2 separate parishes called "Swilland and Witnesham Grouped Parish Council". Similarly in Scotland there are
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I think generally GEOLAND#1 is either settlements that have census data (generally) or municipalities/districts or electoral divisions but not things like school districts though I would construed "legally recognized" quite broadly.
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somebody who is not local. They might say that they live in the hamlet of Hooterville in Lake county, but they are never going to say "I live in the "Precinct #43 of Wentworth twonship" or "The Hooterville US Census tract".
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something that's more than just a statistical designation. I made that comment in the DRV because you'd suggested it was notable because the OS had designated it as a place, I don't think that constitutes legal recognition.
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that are now largely defunct but are still used for statistical purposes and did previously have administrative roles and do still show up on some maps so would likely also be inherently notable on the other hand there are
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On the point of whether AFDs can function as a precedent, really they would have to be a lot more well-attended and have to be much more explicit as to whether the subject is notable per this guide than what is seen here.
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I don't agree with the proposal. I find the presumption that any level below the municipality "is subject to the populated places without legal recognition" by default to be poorly thought. I read in a thread above that
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Agree but we should also specify that things like country subdivisions (states, districts and municipalities) and formal regions are notable but other things like sewage treatment district etc aren't generally notable.
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being any real reason to believe that because the GNS feature has multiple names and there are multiple other, different locations with the same name. But, without being able to load GNS at all I cannot check this.
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While the existence of census data for a place doesn't imply notability, administrative divisions that are officially recognized should be covered by GEOLAND whether or not they have self-governance institutions.
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be "complete" in all settlements, and 3) allows for future expansion of standalones for individual settlements if they can be proven notable. Condensing that many infoboxes into a list is a really bad idea. --
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The reason for this is as well as clarifying things like districts are notable but also you're points about things like sewage districts not being notable otherwise people may well think they are. Aside from
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These aren't "populated places" in the sense of settlements (apart from Brunstock) but they are administrative divisions, these places are quite obviously inherently notable even if they aren't settlements.
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Honestly, I think the guideline works really badly and should be abandoned. The reason is the mass proliferation of geostubs based on pure statistical databases. The Abadi and GNIS cases show this in stark
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That's been a frequent outcome for extant stations with regular use, though nothing has automatic notability. Stations that no longer exist or are not regularly used are not considered as notable, and per
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Regarding the new guideline you made, I feel this would be better as added to the "Artificial features related to infrastructure" with a footnote noting the lack of inherit notability? Something like
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I'm unsure but I'm wandering, perhaps we should see if there is a non-binding consensus here on this. If they aren't notable they could be covered in the urban district's town. See discussion at
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I wasn't able to see "The 2nd to last point also clarifies that things like sewage treatment districts would not be presumed to be notable." Could you point out and explain?
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When I am talking about districts I'm referring to local government districts (or equivalences like American counties) not every unit that happens to be called a "district".
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I'm wondering what the best path forward is: Would it be best to get consensus for a mass deletion/redirect at Village Pump, or go straight to ANI to get this sorted out? ā
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Hi all, I've been trying for days to access the GNS system to check the existence or otherwise of some Iranian "villages" referenced to it. Every time I go to this link:
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has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the
3342:. Though the term "urban parish" no longer really has a legal meaning it does still kind of exist in that parishes that exist in former urban districts such as
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Thanks for initiating discussion. I hate blind inclusionism as much as the next guy, but I was informed of this on my talk page and it seemed odd but correct,
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being merged in 1894. In 1974 the rural and urban distinction disappeared with most urban parishes being abolished and becoming unparished area but a few had
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This has already been highlighted on the Iran and Geography Delsorts, but interested parties who may have missed those notices can see the discussion here:
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Regarding the Azerbaijani village articles I created/edited, this was a 2-3-month job which required massive time and effort to investigate. Originally,
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I am not expecting any one to vote there or here. I am posting this just as referrence point for any future discussion @ this talk page in due course.
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I think that you are mixing the concept of settlements below the municipal level with the idea that a random "administrative" delimitation (such as a "
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but aren't notable. This doesn't apply. Irrigation districts, unlikely but possible since the lack of function may put them in a similar category.
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Avoids having to repeat ourselves here, as I don't believe we have any SNG less strict than GNG that railway stations can fit into. Thoughts?
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thoughts I'm unsure as having its own council may well make an area notable even if there isn't actually an area but that name, thoughts?
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The short version of my posts with respect to the proposal is that I don't support the proposal. But thanks for the thought and work.
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just had the name of the urban district plus another name like the name of a saint and were often more arbitrary and some like
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Well settlements below the municipal level may be notable or may not be for example
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The key problem may be their lack of a "legally recognized government".
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it may not be worth having separate article due to the current parish
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Do heavy rail train stations whose existence can be verified have
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it would generally be notable. Recently it seems places like
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even if they don't have a separate parish council such as
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3416:Scope for guideline update
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506:Knowledge (XXG):Permastubs
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3327:Leicester the Castle View
3207:areas in England such as
1152:Legally recognized places
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568:There is a discussion at
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3211:inherently notable? All
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