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2822:& at the Casino in Catalina. *Co-found/Producer/Director (5yrs) of the CHOICE AWARDS with Marla Gibbs. *Creator and Director two of the award winning shows, āA Tribute to Duke Ellingtonā & āA Tribute to Billy Holidayā. *Co-producer with Embassy Television the award winning play āThe Meetingā which also had a successful 8-week run in New York and received one of the three Image Awards for Producing. *Director (3 years) Black American Cinema Societyās annual awards show at the Directors Guild. 1) Salute to Rosalind Cash; 2) Salute to Berney Casey; 3) Salute to Billy Dee Williams. *Publisher (4 years) Theatre Review Magazine ā a playbill for smaller theatres houses & on newsstands. Some of the clients included Second City, Theatre 40, Inner City Cultural Center, etc.
2716:). AGF requires us to assume this was an accident, which probably is the case. The second is that for a while, everyone who posted afterwords (including myself) didn't notice that there were now two copies. (The contents list was too long to fit on the screen, and performance was sluggish, but both were true before the duplication as well.) Since others have already started recovering the board, I thought I'd ask for ideas about how to prevent this in the future. A few ideas to start with...
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DIVAs), (Dorothy & Otto, The
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Produced/Directed over 15 independent productions at the Coconut Grove. *Executive Producer/Director of BROADWAY IN LA performed by āTony Awardā winning Broadway performers. *Produced/Directed and Promoted a show with 700 guests aboard a ship to Avalon with a performance on board
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4) For posts over some specified length, a system of automatically hiding all but the first so many hundreds-of-characters. This is more elegant than #3, but would still require system changes, and would run a new risk: The person who just pasted the entire old page and his new part as an addition
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I have hidden the emails in the hide-show box as at least an interim measure (I'm editing via iPhone today which means I make more mistakes and do things slower). I am not intimately familiar with pertinent policies regarding disclosure of these emails, and I would not necessarily object if someone
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I'm going to be leaving now, but I'll post an explanation before I do so. The header was basically an attempt to organize and simplify the information presented, which also included an easy posting box. The box originally had a template where the user could enter the relevant information and get the
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to his article and got a bit defensive, he just may get it now that you have provided him all the links. He is a very new user that has only edited the article he is attempting to create, he just needs treating with really, really soft kids gloves. Perhaps even just leave him there for a couple of
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Creator and Executive Producer of āKSLG Playhouse Theatre Playersā. This company performs āThe Golden Age of Radioā live on stage, on radio and on cable with great jazz musicians, singers & actors. KSLG played an entire year at the Jazz Bakery and also won the 1997 South Bay
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regardless of whether they are nasty hatchet jobs, or glowing promotional hagiography. Now, over-sexed bios are obviously not good, but they are not nearly as bad (and not nearly as rare) as unfair attacks. I wonder whether we need to dispense with these catch all categories and substitute with:
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Campaign for Santorum is concerned. If the article is a BLP, who is the subject? Savage? Santorum? Neither? How do we strictly and unambiguously apply policy in this case? We can't. What we need to do is utilize that space between our ears and come to a solution.
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I was born in St Helier Jersey Channel lsles my mother sang with Engelburt as the 'warm up' act prior to his songs, my Dad John (Jack) taught him how to drive in Jersey, my dad's name is John and my mothers Helen, my name is Peter Graham and my sister is Heidi Sarah, please check with him
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links, but that was removed since users were not formatting it properly. Thus, right now the box is only just a posting tool. I don't think there's a template "SECTIONHEADER" that would pull the name of the section header, but if there was, that would be useful for all the noticeboards.
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that we also think about the text of the policy before applying it. Specifically "Never use self-published sourcesāincluding but not limited to books, zines, websites, blogs, and tweetsāas sources of material about a living person, unless written or published by the subject" is
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I just noticed there's a text box and button to automate submitting a report. But it doesn't really save the editor much work. It would be nice if it automatically created a WikiLink to the article and maybe one of these edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs thingies.
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if and when needed, if you can get a bot to do it, feel free but presently the template has been changed the small note is up above somewhere and the template to report to this board is not even working well. If you look in the history you will see where I have been
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Caroline Plumb and Charlie Osborne have no business being on Wiki, they have founded a recruitment company and went to Oxford Polytechnic and Oxford and...??? Honestly how is this noteworthy, vanity projects and PR exercises like this trivialise Wiki.
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Hello Peter. I've removed your email address as responses go on this noticeboard, not by email, and I'm sure you don't want masses of spam. In response to your message, that's all very interesting, but what is it you would like us to help with?
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2027:: yes , I would just like to point out that the archive page is not up to date and that I found my request in archive 116 by using the search box, the last archive listed is 112. Could somebody update this as it is a little confusing? Thanks.
2217:, bringing the total down from over 50,000 to the current 4,861 (as of 15:35, 1 June 2011 (UTC)). We are now asking for your help in finishing this task. There are two main projects which are devoted to removing UBLPs from en.Knowledge:
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1) Set up a bot to check for large posts or posts with a lot of duplication. It would need to check boards like this often, especially if it couldn't selectively revert the duplication without also reverting the later additions.
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2408:(ec) This is a noticeboard for highlighting violations of the BLP policy, and we have one on that article that has been restored twice by an admin. Input from editors used to interpreting the policy would therefore be appreciated.
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biography of a living person, please report the issue to the biographies of living persons noticeboard. If you are connected to the subject of this article and need help with issues related to it, please see this page.
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policies. These two articles may warrant deletion, but this is not the forum to decide that. If you believe these two individuals do not meet the notability guideline mentioned previously, or the
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I can't load the other page at the moment, so posting here: I strongly feel that the site should be included and that to not include it amounts to censorship, but can't see how policy allows it.
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template. There is no need to log your changes, register or remove the articles from the list. If you need any help, or have any comments, please ask at
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936:. That pledge seems controversial, so requires a reliable source. I've pointed him to a reliable source for some of the names, but he refuses to use it"
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Hi Mindbunny, are you looking in the correct location - you are on the talkpage not the noticeboard - your thread is in the archives there, see here
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2098:, thanks.
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139:notability
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1468:Netalarm
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1381:Netalarm
1295:there.--
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