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This article does not meet anything in the Manual of Style at all. I know those are just guidelines, but ususally, lists in the main space actually have descriptions next to each of the items. This doesn't, so putting it in the article namespace, along with the other lists that this links to, Only
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More than merely lists of articles, the lists in question are expanded lists of topics. What's an "expanded list"? Well, when an artcle, including a list, grows too large, part of it is split off and a link is provided to the new page. For this reason, many articles have links to a
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It appears some company tried to turn this page into advertising; I didn't realize this at first, but I fixed it and I will be keeping an eye on this page. Eran of
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