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case the archived version may not match the cited version. An online edition of some translation of an ancient or classical text, as used in the example, is not likely to change, so any date of the archive is probably correct, although currently unnecessary. I notice that none of the example references from the Julius Caesar article mentions the date of composition of the original work, the date of publication of the translation, nor the identity of the translator or the publisher of the translation, all of which are more serious issues than an unnecessary archive.Prose can be located within citation syntax with the use of syntax highlighting, and there's at least one gadget that does this. Moving to list-defined references or shortened footnotes also fixes that issue, and while I'm not a fan of adding archives to live links for many domains, I don't think guidance should be changed because the laziest referencing style of just fully defining the reference at its initial point clutters the source. That's more of an argument to encourage better citation styles.I also think the exact proposed wording is a bit ambiguous, in one sentence talking about live links and then dead links, without a clear separation. It could be read as discussing cases of adding archives to
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verification, they do significantly bloat the wikitext and the references displayed to readers.In almost all cases, an archive of a Jstor page does nothing apart from bloat the text. The proportion of the 0.1% of readers who click through a reference link who choose to click the archive link instead of the original, will cause a tiny server load for
Internet Archive instead of Jstor.(In a small minority of cases, the Jstor original will be open access, so the archive will actually support the prose the way the original does. I assume that Jstor occasionally suffers outages, and during those brief windows of time an archive to an open access article will actually have greater value than the non-functional original. I assume it's also possible that Jstor increases access requirements for hosted articles, paywalling previously free ones, in which case an archive could bypass the newly erected paywall. None of these open access cases affect the main thrust of this proposal.)Jstor is basically always up, and never changes the parts of its site structure that host content, and so setting it to
1743:, which is contradictory. I must stress this is not an argument against the idea, just the proposed text.I have, in at least one case, been forced to add archives to live links, due to the way IABot defines "live links". I was cleaning up citations on an article about some museum in Germany. The article cited something like 140 different pages on the museum's site, but they had restructured their domain such that all the links now resolved to a custom 404 page, which automated tools understand as a "live link". After updating the first sixteen or so manually over an hour or two, I despaired and asked IABot to add archives to live links, since it couldn't understand that the links were actually useless.Some domains do drop articles with some frequency. Local news sites, sohu.com, obituary sites, etc. When I'm citing a source like this, I'll add the archive to the live site prophylactically, since I deem it unlikely to work within a year or so.
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runs on its own, it only adds links to archives *when the original is determined to have died*. That is sensible, and I don't know why editors shouldn't be encouraged to check that option (assuming that it is an available option). Also, when links die, it's a good time to check for website reorganization, and reset the original link, as well as check for citation relevance (e.g. has scientific, economic, or census data been superseded?). I keep thinking that there should be an RfC on limiting the addition of archive links, but, as I said, I've received too much push back, from editors thinking that they're doing good, to think that such an RfC would easily pass.
2412:). They discuss Knowledge (XXG), but don't mentioned archive URLs, it's unknown if they are counting links as dead even though they have a live archive URL. Many devils in the details they pass over, so I'm not sure how useful this report is other than "many links die", which has been known for 30 years. I hope folks on Knowledge (XXG) understand this is an existential problem for our project, it's easy to imagine a wasteland in a few decades where most things are unverifiable, and a massive content deletion project begins to "clean up" per WP:V. --
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WaybackMachine. Nothing needs to be done with this part of the process it's being taken care of already (mostly) by invisible bots. It's a massive load on WaybackMachine disk space and bandwidth, it is being donated free of charge to Knowledge (XXG) by the Internet Archive. --
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1654:. That probably will fail. The feature in question here with selective articles has some utility, the question is should we continue to have this feature on enwiki and if so under what conditions - anyone can run it anytime, only certain users, only x times a day, etc.. what are the guidelines for this feature? Right now there are none, other than it has to be initiated manually which slows the user down some. --
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forum. As for "JSTOR links don't need archiving" (which I agree with), the solution is not "stop adding all links to archive.org", the solution is request an adjustment to IABot not to archive such links. And/or revisit the decision made some years ago to stop
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IABot, when it runs by itself, only places archive links when it detects a dead link as well as setting the url-status to "dead". Since that is a sensible approach, by the same tool that the massive adders are using, why isn't that the bot option that is required: then people can run the bot in that
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parameter, citations to jstor in particular should not get urls either, since that encourages the addition of crufty archives and access dates.I don't really buy the argument that addition of archive urls to live links requires human review, except for urls whose contents change frequently, in which
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Since I was pinged, Iβll just state that Iβm impartial to this particular matter, but will also mention that Ifly6, hasnβt consider the potential for content drift, especially on news related articles. An archive can preserve the integrity of the original version while a live link may continue to
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Many links don't get archived for many reasons. Log into iabot.org and manage domains. If a domain is set to "subscription" or "permalive" it won't be archived. You can change it. Just be careful things are usually not as simple as they seem ie. some links in a domain work others do not. In those
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Did you not mean "...are automatically substituted...", which is my experience and is in line with the point you're making. I'm in certainly favor of changing this article's wording to discourage mass archive-link additions, especially since this guideline is often used as justification for such
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Some nuance would be better. There are multiple issues here. Working backwards, archives to an online version of printed material on a stable platform, like jstor or gbooks, are indeed essentially useless. I don't think such citations should get archive-urls, nor access-dates, and since we have a
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characters (probably upward of 35,000 after including all of my edits). Again, these additions are not necessary to preserve the text of the cited source. This is a live website. And if it became dead the archive URL would be automatically inserted. The costs are, however, substantial for active
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additions make them both harmful to actual content contribution and difficult to remove. Third, many times these archive links add nothing between the website still being live and paywalled sources' archives still being paywalled. We should edit the guidelines to reflect these facts and require
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seems to say requirements or goals should be specified first etc; if anything it reminds me of how annoying government contracting can be). I also raised a discussion on MediaWiki re changing Citoid to use the Jstor parameter but it doesn't seem that went anywhere because it would have to be a
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from an article) have negative value. The paywall landing page does not display the content that supports the prose citing it, and there's no way to navigate to that content from the archive. You have to go to the live site to log in or purchase a subscription.While they're not useful for
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with the citation at the right. Given the stability of Jstor, there are functionally no benefits to these paywalled archive links. The costs in the editability of these articles remains however. Inasmuch as nothing is added for readers, editing ought to take priority.
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Moreover, removing these archive links is significantly more difficult than adding them. It is almost trivial for someone to add unnecessary archive URLs. Not to pick on
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Wikipedias. Fixing it after the fact for CS templates seems easier to implement. I would also be fine with guidance that Jstor URLs shouldn't appear on Jstor articles but that is a separate issue.
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the precise details of the website's name that's changed -- update that, and the links spring back to life. Is there any way to collect the articles which still cite the old URL, so I can correct them en masse using
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