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3681:. Unlike Knowledge (XXG), it's very easy to vandalise a chalkboard or blackboard permanently with a set of keys or a rock. Glasgow (where I lived most of this last year) is one of the most graffiti'd up cities in the UK, and waiting for a train will bring out the ned instincts in every teenager. Chalk would disappear on an hourly, if not minute-by-minute basis, and nobody from the train company will agree to continuously supply it. Within a month, you'd have a destroyed symbol of everything WP's detractors say it is, but none of the positive points. Gigantic Etch-A-Sketch sounds great in theory, but this is an unmonitored provincial train station in Glasgow. It might last a week before also being destroyed. 1609:. I agree entirely with the comments made by Celcius and AxelBoldt. This idea comes across to me as utterly absurd and a case of Wikipedian pride getting out of hand. Just calm down and think about it for a minute- Putting a plaque in a train station, because that train station happened to be the subject, by one estimation, of the 1,000,000th article on an online encyclopedia. And holding a ceremony to honor that this train station happened to have an article created about it such a precise moment (??). I see this bizarre move as tasteless marketing at its worst. 1761:. I feel Knowledge (XXG) is taking itself too seriously here. I know I'm going against many people who I would normally be alongside here, but think.. "This plaque commemorates Jordanhill for being the 1,000,000th entry on a website". It just doesn't sound right. To be honest, if I saw that plaque, I'd laugh, even though I am a fan of Knowledge (XXG). Anyhow, my oppose does not make much difference, I'm just saying. Knowledge (XXG) is no big deal. 1810:), to discover that my local rail station was the subject of the millionth wiki article is very suprising - and very cool - to say the least! I think that the Wikimedia Foundation should at least approach SPT and suggest the idea. It would certainly be significant if there was a plaque on the ground commemorating the millionth article - and advertising this to locals - rather than this being limited to the Wiki community. 1184: 20:, and request a plaque be placed at the station, in commemoration of the 1 millionth English article. This is not meant to be tacky, self-obsessed, or put an emphasis on quantity over quality. This commemoration simply is to provide a physical commemoration of the efforts of thousands of people worldwide who raised the project to the level it is at. 1979:, I would be proud to correct the situation should it become intractible for the users. I think the people who have to wade through ticket refund requests and arcane legal process every day would be thrilled to zoom through a couple dozen emails letting them know that they were in charge of the subject of the millionth Knowledge (XXG) article. -- 1533:
and voice my opinion. I think a plaque is unnecesarry and gives the impression of the wikipedia community taking itself a bit too seriously. It's an encyclopedia - not a cure for cancer. Did Britannica erect a plaque for themselves when they hit 100k and would it generally be considered good form had
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Any previous attempt I've made at contacting the relevant authorities regarding Jordanhill has been met with absolutely no response. I very much doubt that they'd be willing to accept outside donations for something like this. Even for something as simple as providing a brief run-down of alterations
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Jordanhill railway station is the subject of the millionth article added to Knowledge (XXG), the 💕 that anyone can edit. - I don't think you need to mention the English part on there, since the plaque is in English, I think it would maybe just be assumed. Also, "millionth" is easier to read than
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I don't know what will or won't annoy; but it would be great if the Foundation were to take this on as a project. I don't see why people shouldn't send them email congratulating them on being the subject of the millionth article, which is what I think James meant; that sounds like a joyful reprieve
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get totally annoyed. It's always better to play it safe. Also, the Wikimedia Foundation has not given permission for such a plaque to be placed; it is possible the Foundation will not want to commemorate the milestone in such a manner. Also, independent Wikipedians may be misinterpreted as Wikimedia
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It was mere chance that this article was the millionth, and chance that it was something which could be adorned with a plaque. This isn't following any rational thought. And frankly it seems against the plight of Knowledge (XXG). Are we documenting what the world has created, or creating ourselves?
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I am Scottish myself, and was in Glasgow last year, although do not live there. I went on a train through the city whilst there, too. I knew about this being the millionth article at the time, but was not thinking about it then. If I go back again I may take some proper photographs, although at the
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I doubt there'd be room for a web kiosk. These unmanned stations are very bare-bones, you know. Also, as the station has no public amenities besides for the purpose of getting on a train, and a low level of traffic of those, wi-fi demand as well as web kiosk demand would probably be pretty low. I'd
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The chalk board idea is excellent. Make it permanant however, in a corner, giving a small paragraph with one sentence each for explaning what Knowledge (XXG) is, telling why the chalkboard is there, instructing people to make their own plaque, requesting vandals leave it alone. IMHO, zappa 07:16,
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Some people have opposed this idea because it is too self obssed. Honestly that is why I like it. Knowledge (XXG) is already a huge website, and it needs to take more pride in that. Personally I don't care what colour the plaque is, and I think that Knowledge (XXG) should just get permission form
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This page currently has the following in its inception: "This is not meant to be tacky, self-obsessed, or put an emphasis on quantity over quality. This commemoration simply is to provide a physical commemoration of the efforts of thousands of people worldwide who raised the project to the level it
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My job is to persuade local councils to grant planning permission for things and I am myself a local councillor who serves on a planning sub-committee deciding on these things. If you want a plaque, the thing to do is to get in touch with the people who own the station and the people who operate it
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On the other hand, I feel if the foundation pay for say, a bench, that would be a better idea. A plaque just seems so.. over the top. The bench could certainly have a plaque on it, but having just a plaque on the wall seems strange. A plaque normally commemorates a death or something historic in my
1730:". What kind of certification is it? "To certify" means "to attest as certain". I don't think it is certain that this article was the millionth article. It may have been the millionth article created with links to other articles, but nothing more. Guys, I am afraid to say Jordanhill railway station 3749:
Well, what do you think we should do? There was an early effort, above, to keep people from contacting the authorities. If people from all over the world made an organized effort to contact them, do you think they would at least tell us how much it would cost to endow the station with wifi and a
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styled device not be better in terms of who will replace the chalk and duster and you know it rains a lot here in Glasgow. You would have to get it to telephone booth standards of anti vandal / anti theft / weather proofing... The station has railings all along both platforms and a shelter on each
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No. I never said that. I said "I think this is over-the-top". I then pointed out that your example is something that not everyone would celebrate. I'm all for celebrating the 1,000,000th article, but I just think this is an inappropriate way to do it. I'd hope that, in years to come, commemorative
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I suspect the building of the 10 millionth Model T might be a source of embarassment to some in years to come: "They built 10 million of those polluting monstrosities"? It's all about POVs you see. IMO, a commemmorative tag on the article itself is sufficient. I just wanted to record that opinion.
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was built, the car was paraded down Broadway in New York, made a grand tour to San Fransisco, and the owner took a letter from the NYC mayor to the SF mayor. New papers noted its license plate number, a random number. The 20 millionth Model A recieved the same sort of hoopla, and now is in an auto
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I oppose this idea. People make way too much out of a big round number. Putting a plaque in a train station because by some estimations it was the 1,000,000th article in an online encyclopedia? And hold a ceremony? I find that marketing gone way out of hand, although amusing in an absurdist sense.
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No, English Heritage do on rare occasions put up plaques for historic events - for example there is a plaque to mark the site on which the first V1 Flying Bomb fell, and a plaque to mark the site of the first public demonstration of television, and to mark the first regular television service.
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I hope that all the Foundation does is simply acknowledge that the plaque exists, and helps with coordination of how it is going to be set up and presented. Any financing for the plaque ought to be done by supporters alone, and no general funds for the plaque should come from the Foundation.
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the owner of the train station and put one up ourselves, not to get some official goverment thing going. I kind of do like the suggestion above that we put up a chalk board, (which is really just an old school wiki). Maybe put it up as a one year annaversity of reaching one million? --
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Why platinum painted? I agree that the Foundation has no business in paying for this, but it would be nice if they formally acknowledge such a commemoration. If and when a seperate fundraiser were to be held, a bench would be the most practical, and the most likely to be approved. --
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Emails have been removed, as we don't want people contacting individually. I'm posting the complete info to the Wikimedia Foundations Communications Committee mailing list, where the Foundation will help coordinate efforts, presuming more users express their interest on this page. --
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Then we could put a plaque in the town were George Bush III was born, or in the town where custard soup was invented or popularized. No matter what, let's not get ahead of ourselves, there's no saying that the Foundation will agree with this plaque, let alone a series of plaques. --
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Modest Genius is wrong- any Google search will show you that what 'one-millionth' means is the fraction, i.e. one million times smaller than one. "One millionth" is correct. Why would there be a hyphen? Would you write "one-thousand"? No. You would write "one thousand". And so on.
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On second thought, after months of considering, I have found that this is the stupidest project ever attempted in commemorative plaqueing(?), well, it was fun while it lasted though. I can finally remove this link from my signature. Show's over, everyone, this project is dead.
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Both of these oppositions could also have been applied to Knowledge (XXG) in general (it could be vandalised, it's not practical, it won't last) but look at it now. I think that a plaque which embodies the same concepts as the encyclopedia it honours is a truly great thing.
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A bench is perhaps the most sensible suggestion, really. It improves the station, and isn't some glitzy thing on some wall. And unlike welding a plaque onto the wall, it can always be moved or temporary removed during a renovation, without being destroyed. I like it. --
1705:. Let's wait one hundred years before putting a plaque there. If Knowledge (XXG) is still there then, I am sure historians will have a lively debate about whether Jordanhill railway station was really the 1,000,000 article. Let's step back and wait... No vanity. -- 2792:
Special project likely should organize this, but Wikimedia UK would be used to strengthen the plaque proposal, proving Wikimedia does have a major and sustainable prescence in the UK, and isn't just some random "dot-com" commemorating some random article. --
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Wouldn't either or both of those be a better commemoration gift than a plaque, bench, or chalk board? Since it looks like those things are supported at some stations, let's get a quote and see whether the supporters can collectivly share the cost. I'll ask
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I like the chalkboard idea, but a "one year on" commemoration may be too long. In fact, a year on we may be nigh on 2 million articles. I suppose we can't guarantee that the proposal would be transferrable to the subject of the two millionth article though.
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Is there a lot of vandalism there? I mean, you could say the same thing about a meteor colliding the station and destroying the plaque with it, albeit not that unlikely. You could just wrap it up in some sort of easily removable plastic wrap too, I guess.
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This may not be meant to "be tacky, self-obsessed, or put an emphasis on quantity over quality", but it will certainly be perceived as such, and rightfully so. I think we should celebrate if we ever get the number of embarrassing articles down to 100,000.
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should make an official application to the relevant body. Any opinions on this? To clarify, the former would be from the Wikimedia Foundation and the latter would be from the (now legally recognised) "local lackeys" of the Wikimedia Foundation.
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I'm personally in favour, but sceptical of success. Generally speaking the British authorities only put up plaques to commemorate famous deceased personalities. Not sure they'd consider making such a solid memorial to an electronic entity.
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Agreed. Just the average Plak-it type of thing would do, so then we can afford to replace it to make up for wear and tear. Plus, we don't want to waste too much money on the thing, the Foundation needs to spend money on other things. --
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another point, re the proposed plaques, they should start 'On the 1st March 2006,...' to conform to British style, rather than just '1 March 2006,...', and 'encylopaedia' rather than 'encyclopedia' (although the latter is debatable)
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I think the idea sounds really neat, but it wouldn't last. Someone would just vandalize it with a set of keys or something. A plaque made of metal would be much more durable and easy to clean, so I think it would be a better idea.
3127:", right at the very top, but perhaps some people just skim over the boring bits, like where it is). I'm not sure if they are the best agency, but I'm sure that they would point you in the correct direction. Other people to ask? - 2139:, neither of whom should be required to pay for the instalation, but both of whom should be offered the chance to do so. Right of refusal is with the author of the 1,000,000th article, and either of the other local authorities. -- 2884:
articles I would probably support it because that would really be significant. It's simply wrong to assert that the number of articles in itself is significant when an encyclopedia should aspire for quality above anything else.
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That is the correct stat. Perhaps the precident for official Wikimedia plaques is one for every millionth article in any language, and one for the every millionth article overall, if such complex stats can be calculated. --
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Try to only suggest materials (ie platinum and paint), not appearance (round and blue). The actual design will likely be dependent on Wikimedia the style guide, or the stylistic conventions of local historical plaques. --
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Okay, congratulatory messages would be fine, just don't talk about the plaque in the message, and no one represent themselves in a way that could be misinterpreted to suggest anything but you are a volunteer. --
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I like your suggestion about millionth, but the English language distinction is important, because I think they're up to about 3.3 million articles for all the languages and sister projects. I could be way off.
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That's not too bad, but I reserve the right to pass the hat among supporters listed. There are enough so that if we all throw in $ 10, we will probably have enough. How much would B&Q charge to
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It's Glasgow. It's an unmanned railway station. Of course it'll get vandalised. Either of those would be sufficient to virtually guarantee that it would. Both of them means there's no doubt. --
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When will the plaque be put there? I want to go an see it. I've been to the UK three times, but never to Scotland. I want to visit Jordanhill in Glasgow and take a photograph of the plaque.
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I hope you have a team of volunteers to patrol the station waiting to fix the plaque when it gets vandalized. ;) But seriously now, this venture does strike me as a fairly bad idea.
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The plaque should be of a low value material. I note that the commemorative plaque to the runner killed near the station in 1898 was made of lead and has now gone missing. See
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However they generally like these events to be very significant and long in the past. In any case, Jordanhill is in Scotland and not England where their writ does not run.
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Seriously. I thought this was a joke. Why is this article, or the number 1,000,000 so significant? I agree it is a landmark achievement, but I think this is over-the-top.
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scheme, but the circle itself was, in fact, the Knowledge (XXG) logo with the commemorative text written on it? I know, we're getting into Photoshop territory now....
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so, when the vandals come and deface the plaque or bench (which they will), who will pay to clean it up? in real life, it's not as easy as clicking an undo button..
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the chalkboard idea. It looks better than the other proposals, and it is basically a (old-style) wiki format. Plus it seems less likely to be stolen or vandalised.
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Uhh, actually, i'm fairly certain some people went and backtracked through the database to confirm the number of articles at the time, not just Special:Statistics.
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1,000,000 is significant because we use base-10 numbers in everyday life. I suppose there's a case for taking the 1,048,576th article since computers use binary.
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plaques appear at places that hosted the Wikimedia servers, but I wouldn't do more than that. It is easy to overdo these things and get the emphasis wrong.
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Should anyone remain concerned about this, I urge those choosing to write to remember to include "Knowledge (XXG)" in the subject line of their emails. --
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There is a slight technological difference between a chalkboard and a wiki. The practicality of one has no bearing on the practicality of the other. --
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I'd be willing to contribute, but without the foundation how can we be sure that the money doesn't go to some scam? Fishal 03:32, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
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stick to a plaque. (A plaque would be needed anyway to inform people of the wi-fi coverage and why on earth such a small station has been given it.)
1722:) is an arbitrary discrimination, and non-sense. A web page without any link to other web page is still a web page. I suggest swiftly removing from 2666:
Looks like a good wall, but isn't that a little far to strain one's eyes? Like, can anyone stand over there without jumping over the tracks? --
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What is the evidence that "volumes of emails from individual contributors will do nothing but irritate those in charge"? If I was a sysadmin at
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to see if they would allow a plaque to be put up. If they say yes, then you need a planning application to Glasgow City Council to be approved.
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platform which could house it... (and for the bench people, there already are some benches, they are painted metal (anti ned / weather). --
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seems to show a masonry wall at the back of platform 2, although it may just be an adjacent building and nothing to do with the station.
2974:. Another question to ask, what major home renovation stores are there in Scotland, their sites would provide us with the answer. -- 2691:
Perhaps it should be a really big plaque; in which case I would retract my proposal about the difference from the value of platinum. --
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There is a bridge (between the two platforms) to get over there - with that wall being part of an adjacent fabric shop/warehouse. --
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is only small, then a wooden bench might offer a good site to hold the plaque, and allow that bloke reading his paper to sit down.
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the idea of a blackboard. It's not too serious, it symbolises what Knowledge (XXG) stands for, and will get people's attention
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I'll consider it, if it can be done for under 500 USD. Is that possible? Maybe a 10cm x 8cm plaque. How much would that cost?
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ROFL. That is the most hilarious idea ever. Nice one. Although, it would be interesting! -zappa 18:51, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
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Likely never, because the Foundation has stated they won't pay for it, and no one's officially "passed the hat". --
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Under the Wikimedia Foundation's visual identity guidelines, such coverage of the Wikimedia logo is prohibited. --
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tacky, self-obsessed and putting emphasis on quantity over quality, but recognising the "marketing" opportunity? --
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I agree it's much too low, but we're trying to include bonafide newbies, who discover us through the 1M-EN PR. --
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It has been expressed by many users that the Wikimedia Foundation should contact the authorities in control of the
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Moreover, the letters and frame should be plated with chrome to contrast with the dull grey brushed steel. --
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It seems like this has all largely "blown over" anyway. Still, it was a nice enough idea while it lasted :)
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Then why not see if English Heritage want to place it? They already commemorate events as well as people.
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It's nearly a year (or maybe more?), when this was suggested. Is the plaque there or it will never be? --
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As for the idea of a commemoration, I find it interesting but ultimately I do not think it will happen.
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It seems we are getting some support behind this idea. Perhaps this idea should be explored further?
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I am not saying that these are the right people, but they may well know who the right people are.--
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I've put a proposed plaque on the project page. (Please, please) please feel free to change it.
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I presume you mean a bench bought in Scotland. Elsewise it sounds like something unique, like a
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I recommend bolting into the local masonry, after publishing a call for masonrywork bids in the
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Placing a plaque at Jordanhill Station, would be a very fitting act. As a local (and alumnus of
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I think after reviewing my budget that I would rather spring for a platinum-painted bench. --
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By the way, considering "articles without links to other articles" as not being articles (see
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That assumes every landmark article is a place. What would happen if the 2 millionth was
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Whoops, you're correct. I meant that the 'one' was necessary, the hyphen was a mistake
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Not to mention we'll lure some more of those rural Brits to such a great place. ;-) -
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is at." Is it not possible that some people support a commemoration thinking it
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No larger than it has to be, to be seen by people with regular eyesight. --
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In the UK, blue is the typical colour chosen for plaques, as a result of the
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It probably would be vandalised... in the real world sense of the term... --
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do, because I have seen several of them pinned to the side of buildings:
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I saw this was added on the special project committee talk page on meta (
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Wow, 5 unreverted namespace edits...we're really setting the bar high.
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which I feel is the wrong path to take. Summa summarum: Regretfully, I
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about this; show support on this page, your user page, your blog, etc.
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Willing to donate a few quid (OK, USD) to cover part of the cost too.
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As much as I dislike to be the first to vote against I feel I should
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Presenting the plaque would serve a good P.R. function, however. --
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to the station is seemingly too much work for the powers that be :)
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Historic Scotland certainly doesn't put up plaques, it seems. --
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for the planning development city board which you also removed. --
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So you're saying we'll regret ever creating Knowledge (XXG). --
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Please do not communicate with the station authorities by yourself
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it but I have doubts about the transport authority liking it. --
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I like the chalkboard idea. Let's keep it nice and whimsical.
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Does not qualify under five edit rule, and edits in bad faith.
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The number in itself is not significant - it's meaningless -
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for a wooden bench at B&Q, they don't offer metal. --
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up with some chalk and let people write their own plaque? --
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Sounds good! A nightmare to mock-up with tables, but good!
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Thas as shoorlay a thang too be toktaboot! Fantastic Idea!
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Anyone with a large van and a Saturday to spare live near
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http://meta.wikimedia.org/Talk:Special_projects_committee
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What should the plaque be made of, should it be approved?
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note that the station has no public WiFi or "web kiosk."
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Please let the Wikimedia Foundation organize contact.
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Please make sure the Foundation has the link to the
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they or Encarta done it? In addition, it focuses on
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