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1148:! Hope you're doing well. :-) I completely missed that page. Thanks for sharing it. So, I'm not sure what the effort level is to accomplish this. For the purposes of the linked discussion + for the GA project more broadly, my thought is that they'd only really utilize lists of the shortest/longest GAs. If that's a trivial ask, fantastic. But if it's simpler and possible to ctrl+F for "featured" and replace with "good" in your existing code, a list of all of them would work great.
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438:, this just came up on another page. Would you happen to know if there is a reason this addition has not been pushed to the main prosesize script? Alternatively/in the meantime, is there a reason not to add this exception to the Prose size notes here? Best,
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Huh. That just makes too much sense for me to have realized that by myself. :-)) That is perfect! Thanks very much. I appreciate the work and owe you one.
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