353:
335:
289:
264:
233:
202:
522:...In other words, a lot of work has already been put into RfD's current setup, splitting it up into nomination subpages has been rejected in the past, the current situation is temporary, it was a lot worse when all nomination headers were listed in the table of contents, and ... dang, I just realized all that work to improve RfD's structure happened in 2017. How time flies.
829:
671:, which grinds to a halt on the RfD main page due to the sheer volume of comments it has to format. I do recognize that other editors might not care about the quirks of a script that is not that widely used, but it's something to consider. This issue arises on very few other large talk pages like ANI.
700:
I'm all in favour of any changes that enhance performance, user experience and make it more usable on mobile devices. However, as
Thryduulf mentioned, an AfD-style process would make it harder to access individual discussions, and reduce participation. How about have the main RfD page have only the
444:
This page already gets very large and is very difficult to scroll and navigate, especially on lower end devices like phones. I think we should maybe take the approach that is done at AfD and only list all of the nominations on subpages. We can have a bot update the counters for the number of open
802:", but then it registered that "closure" is not "closed" and I wondered if that was relevant, so I scrolled around the page, and realized that every discussion had that phrase on it, so maybe none of them were actually closed yet, so I went ahead and commented.
727:
table hard coded to be white causes most of the text to be unreadable in dark mode, as the font colour is changed to a light grey. Dark mode is still in beta, and you can switch back to standard mode to make it readable, but thought it worth highlighting.
445:
RfDs on a given day. I did some stuff in user space and found that we could reduce the post expand include size from about 1,000,000 to just above 100,000 (about ten times) if we just linked to each RfD nomination rather than transcluding them.
596:
I agree with this. On slower connections this page takes ages to load, and I imagine it's very slow when scrolling on lower-end devices. I don't think we should just keep saying it's been discussed before and ignore the problem.
798:
and almost didn't comment, because I saw what at first glance appeared to be a closed discussion; it was marked, "Closure ". My first glance impression was, "Oh, this is already closed as 'keep and retarget
701:
current + previous day's entries (since different parts of the world are always on two different dates), with the backlog dates collapsed, assuming they get loaded only when Expand is selected?
637:
It loads fine when I'm at home on 80+ mb/s. But when I'm editing in public on a hotspot this page takes anywhere from 5 to 10+ seconds to load which is very long compared to AfD, for example.
844:
795:
50:
515:
510:
459:
189:
185:
181:
177:
173:
169:
165:
505:
161:
157:
153:
149:
145:
141:
137:
133:
129:
791:
I find the phrase "Closure " in the heading of a section confusing, and wonder if it could be removed, changed, or hidden until there is actually a closure of some sort.
193:
85:
91:
751:
regarding the older daily subpages' transclusions appearing as links instead of transclusions. The issue seems to stem from the current setup of
373:
878:
836:
748:
724:
35:
460:
Knowledge (XXG) talk:Redirects for discussion/Archive 16#RfD is getting too long for listing in a single page, needs break-up like AfD
478:
Subpages make it much harder to navigate and to track changes to discussions. If we got rid of the missing-space RDAB redirects (see
381:
This banner should be placed on the talk pages of project, template and category pages that exist and operate to maintain redirects.
360:
340:
295:
269:
31:
840:
80:
749:
Knowledge (XXG):Village pump (technical)#Last few sections at
Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion appear as links instead
244:
71:
402:
684:
201:
124:
805:
Can we maybe change it to "Closure " while it is still active, and then update it later when it actually closes?
556:
I meant "temporary" in the sense of the amount of nominations currently at RFD, not in regards to the solution.
212:
250:
449:
372:
on
Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the
300:
274:
653:
611:
397:
61:
674:
516:
Knowledge (XXG) talk:Redirects for discussion/Archive 12#Improvements to new discussion closure template
352:
334:
479:
365:
101:
76:
733:
216:
860:
766:
567:
533:
487:
864:
814:
770:
737:
712:
693:
658:
632:
616:
585:
571:
551:
537:
491:
473:
452:
810:
581:
547:
446:
217:
639:
57:
369:
832:
821:
214:
729:
17:
850:
756:
668:
557:
523:
483:
872:
806:
752:
708:
628:
577:
543:
469:
743:
Discussion on
Village pump regarding issues with older daily subpage transclusions
506:
Knowledge (XXG) talk:Redirects for discussion/Archive 8#Splitting daily log page
542:...A temporary solution is indeed one of the more permanent types of solution.
511:
Knowledge (XXG) talk:Redirects for discussion/Archive 11#"Current list" section
288:
263:
703:
623:
464:
843:. Watchers of this page are invited to comment on the discussion at
755:. Participants of RfD are welcome to participate in the discussion.
482:) then the volume of nominations would be much more manageable.
667:
I will also note that, like a growing number of editors, I use
796:
Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 10
390:
designed to be placed on the talk pages of most redirects and
226:
218:
26:
440:
Can we reduce the number of RfDs transcluded on this page?
109:
578:𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱
544:𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱
364:, a collaborative effort to improve the standard of
499:, for the record. The following explain my stance:
849:on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you.
298:, a project which is currently considered to be
243:does not require a rating on Knowledge (XXG)'s
8:
329:
258:
719:"How to table..." unreadable in dark mode
480:WT:CSD#Improper disambiguation redirects
400:redirects. For more information see the
576:Fair enough, I must've misread. Sorry.
331:
260:
747:I recently opened up a discussion at
725:How to list a redirect for discussion
7:
413:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Redirect
310:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Deletion
232:
230:
794:I was looking at one discussion at
249:It is of interest to the following
34:for discussing improvements to the
25:
358:This page is within the scope of
294:This page is within the scope of
56:New to Knowledge (XXG)? Welcome!
841:Template:Redirect for discussion
827:
351:
333:
287:
262:
231:
200:
51:Click here to start a new topic.
865:22:16, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
815:21:14, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
723:Having the cell colour of the
1:
771:20:00, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
416:Template:WikiProject Redirect
376:and see a list of open tasks.
313:Template:WikiProject Deletion
48:Put new text under old text.
879:Project-Class redirect pages
621:What is your network speed?
538:21:50, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
492:12:46, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
474:17:57, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
453:17:51, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
738:16:43, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
895:
586:17:26, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
572:13:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
552:14:32, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
99:
820:Nomination for merger of
346:
282:
257:
86:Be welcoming to newcomers
713:10:02, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
694:00:29, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
659:00:23, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
633:05:43, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
617:21:56, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
36:Redirects for discussion
18:Knowledge (XXG) talk:RFD
669:Convenient Discussions
403:template documentation
81:avoid personal attacks
837:nominated for merging
396:on the talk pages of
194:Auto-archiving period
846:the template's entry
361:WikiProject Redirect
296:WikiProject Deletion
502:The comments above
245:content assessment
92:dispute resolution
53:
692:
435:
434:
431:
430:
427:
426:
407:
328:
327:
324:
323:
316:Deletion articles
225:
224:
72:Assume good faith
49:
16:(Redirected from
886:
857:
833:Template:Rfd-NPF
831:
830:
822:Template:Rfd-NPF
801:
788:
787:
783:
763:
711:
706:
689:
682:
681:
679:
677:TechnoSquirrel69
657:
656:
650:
649:
646:
643:
631:
626:
615:
614:
609:
608:
605:
602:
564:
530:
472:
467:
421:
420:
417:
414:
411:
383:
355:
348:
347:
337:
330:
318:
317:
314:
311:
308:
291:
284:
283:
278:
266:
259:
236:
235:
234:
227:
219:
205:
204:
195:
112:
27:
21:
894:
893:
889:
888:
887:
885:
884:
883:
869:
868:
851:
828:
825:
799:
789:
785:
781:
779:
778:
757:
745:
721:
707:
702:
685:
675:
672:
652:
647:
644:
641:
640:
638:
627:
622:
610:
606:
603:
600:
599:
598:
558:
524:
468:
463:
442:
418:
415:
412:
409:
408:
395:
389:
384:This banner is
315:
312:
309:
306:
305:
272:
221:
220:
215:
192:
118:
117:
116:
115:
108:
104:
97:
67:
23:
22:
15:
12:
11:
5:
892:
890:
882:
881:
871:
870:
824:
818:
777:
774:
744:
741:
720:
717:
716:
715:
697:
696:
665:
664:
663:
662:
661:
594:
593:
592:
591:
590:
589:
588:
520:
519:
518:
513:
508:
503:
494:
476:
441:
438:
433:
432:
429:
428:
425:
424:
422:
419:redirect pages
391:
385:
382:
377:
370:categorization
356:
344:
343:
338:
326:
325:
322:
321:
319:
292:
280:
279:
267:
255:
254:
248:
237:
223:
222:
213:
211:
210:
207:
206:
120:
119:
114:
113:
105:
100:
98:
96:
95:
88:
83:
74:
68:
66:
65:
54:
45:
44:
41:
40:
39:
24:
14:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
891:
880:
877:
876:
874:
867:
866:
862:
858:
856:
855:
848:
847:
842:
838:
834:
823:
819:
817:
816:
812:
808:
803:
797:
792:
784:
775:
773:
772:
768:
764:
762:
761:
754:
753:Template:Rfd2
750:
742:
740:
739:
735:
731:
726:
718:
714:
710:
705:
699:
698:
695:
690:
688:
680:
678:
670:
666:
660:
655:
651:
636:
635:
634:
630:
625:
620:
619:
618:
613:
595:
587:
583:
579:
575:
574:
573:
569:
565:
563:
562:
555:
554:
553:
549:
545:
541:
540:
539:
535:
531:
529:
528:
521:
517:
514:
512:
509:
507:
504:
501:
500:
498:
495:
493:
489:
485:
481:
477:
475:
471:
466:
461:
457:
456:
455:
454:
451:
448:
439:
437:
423:
405:
404:
399:
394:
388:
380:
375:
371:
367:
363:
362:
357:
354:
350:
349:
345:
342:
339:
336:
332:
320:
303:
302:
297:
293:
290:
286:
285:
281:
276:
271:
268:
265:
261:
256:
252:
246:
242:
238:
229:
228:
209:
208:
203:
199:
191:
187:
183:
179:
175:
171:
167:
163:
159:
155:
151:
147:
143:
139:
135:
131:
128:
126:
122:
121:
111:
107:
106:
103:
93:
89:
87:
84:
82:
78:
75:
73:
70:
69:
63:
59:
58:Learn to edit
55:
52:
47:
46:
43:
42:
37:
33:
29:
28:
19:
853:
852:
845:
826:
804:
793:
790:
759:
758:
746:
722:
686:
676:
560:
559:
526:
525:
496:
443:
436:
401:
393:almost never
392:
386:
378:
359:
299:
251:WikiProjects
241:project page
240:
197:
123:
30:This is the
730:Little pob
374:discussion
368:and their
854:Steel1943
835:has been
760:Steel1943
561:Steel1943
527:Steel1943
484:Thryduulf
458:Also see
398:mainspace
366:redirects
94:if needed
77:Be polite
32:talk page
873:Category
807:Mathglot
776:Closure
410:Redirect
341:Redirect
307:Deletion
270:Deletion
125:Archives
102:Shortcut
62:get help
447:Awesome
301:defunct
275:defunct
198:60 days
780:": -->
497:Oppose
247:scale.
110:WT:RFD
839:with
450:Aasim
379:Note:
239:This
90:Seek
38:page.
861:talk
811:talk
782:edit
767:talk
734:talk
687:sigh
582:talk
568:talk
548:talk
534:talk
488:talk
79:and
704:Jay
624:Jay
465:Jay
387:not
875::
863:)
813:)
769:)
736:)
709:💬
654:💬
629:💬
612:💬
584:)
570:)
550:)
536:)
490:)
470:💬
196::
190:16
188:,
186:15
184:,
182:14
180:,
178:13
176:,
174:12
172:,
170:11
168:,
166:10
164:,
160:,
156:,
152:,
148:,
144:,
140:,
136:,
132:,
60:;
859:(
809:(
800:'
786:]
765:(
732:(
691:)
683:(
673:—
648:A
645:F
642:C
607:A
604:F
601:C
580:(
566:(
546:(
532:(
486:(
462:.
406:.
304:.
277:)
273:(
253::
162:9
158:8
154:7
150:6
146:5
142:4
138:3
134:2
130:1
127::
64:.
20:)
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.