Knowledge (XXG) talk:Redirects for discussion/Archive 4

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the same mistake, though. People make spelling mistakes all the time. As readers, most of us are pretty good at identifying them. And even if we're not, when you click the link, the redirect does show at the top - admittedly, in smallish print - but, I think, making clear to an astute reader that the original was incorrect and that the correct spelling is the big bold version at the top of the page. A 'Did you mean' page would accomplish the same thing but would also add an extra click to our readers. I'm not sure that the net benefits to our readers would outweigh the net costs to their perception of usability.

892:. This creates a page that largely links to itself, and pages for biological taxa do not generally redirect elsewhere (to make it clear which need articles, and named species are generally considered notable, since the naming implies sources exist), and include redlinks for nonexistent subarticles. I thus propose that these redirects be deleted, but it's a big pain to tag them all individually. Apparently AWB won't work for pages that redirect. Does anyone have any ideas how to list them here easily? 1767:. I think that to many such redirs (including lots from plural forms of misspellings) may encourage users to actually use the false spellings and they may also clutter article lists. And then we have autocompletion now, which in most cases will help you find what you're looking for without the additional redirects. Pie4all88 thinks, that these redirs don't hurt anyone and that not all users/browsers can use the ajax autocompletion feature. Any third opinions would be appreciated. -- 1646:" as a form of 'policy' - but it appears this isn't the case - I've since looked at What links here, and it all seems to be mostly from the same person. My other concern was that it also promotes bad spelling to those reading it - and this was initially true, in the case of myself. We have no way of judging that one, but you can't beat first hand exprience! (ie it confused me for a while, as for a period he tended to use it to a number of editors on various talks etc). 31: 2327:. I added some foreign language redirects to French Knowledge (XXG) because it has many tennis articles that are unlikely ever to be created in English Knowledge (XXG). It is not unreasonable to anticipate that many English speakers also can read French. And aside from that, tennis tables, which are very commonly used and appreciated in both English and French Knowledge (XXG), are easily understood regardless of language. 1540:. In a few cases, they even got away with it because a cursory review of the pagehistory does show only the one editor. This was an inappropriate application of the CSD case, though. Further investigation frequently determined that the page history still had value even though the contribution history had been moved. Or sometimes didn't have value - but it was clearly a situation that required investigation and discussion. 2989:, eliminating irrelevant results that the main search tends to return. I'm open to seeing the placement/style/etc. tweaked if anyone hates SVG magnifying glasses. Note that some very old discussions (from 2005 and earlier) aren't archived except in page history and can't be searched this way; however, most discussions are searchable. Hopefully others find this sort of thing as helpful as I do. 2140:, but would not notice the reversal. So the original redirect can be safely restored. General procedure is that misleading redirects can be 'retargeted' boldly. If is is controversial it is an editorial dispute that can often still be resolved on the respective talk pages. Especially problematic cases or those that have unclear implications can still be bought here. See also 669:. I have typed the British spelling inadvertenly a few times but an admin has deleted it and protected it calling it "ludicrous". Well, this is what redirects are for. Even though Britons know that The Simpsons is an American programme, they still might type the British spelling just by reflex as I have done several times. I have also encountered this with " 1082: 3965:

discussion, however this particular case may be heading towards a WP:SNOW result, and thus a user boldly decided to return the redirect to its normal functionality. As you noted this on the RfD itself I am sure that the closing admin will take it into consideration, but I doubt it will be relisted as consensus seems clear. Hope this helps, --

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article (and either watchlisting or protecting it), we lessen the incentive to create a vandal article that may go unnoticed. Personally, I don't think that's a particularly successful tactic and think the pages should be protected in a deleted status instead. Go ahead and nominate it. Let's see what others think.

3158:, I added another improvement in use over there: the entire header text is now wrapped in a css class of "rfd-header", so you can hide the header text through your personal css page if you find clicking "skip to current discussions" too tedious. As always, anyone should feel free to revert me if they hate it. 3114:

which is now a redirect to heavy metal music per an AFD discussion. I understand the second page has to be kept to preserve the history but the first page has no history since it was a move that changed the article's name. So should the first page/redirect be deleted or do we keep it around no matter

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No, they don't work. I just restored the redirect to test & see if anything has changed and it hasn't. A redirect automatically transfers you to the target page. If you put in a link to a different Knowledge (XXG), it only shows the link, it does not actually redirect you. Hence, it doesn't work.

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on a Talk page did think that was the correct spelling. Or, at least, that his/her finger slipped left by one key but didn't think it was worth a second edit to fix. I don't think that leaving the mistake on a Talk page particularly encourages others reading that incorrectly spelled version to make

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against CNR, and maybe guidelines need to be made more strict. For example, if I type "new pages" in the search field, I see 2 suggestions, one is a redirect to WP namespace, and the other is a redirect to Special page. Anyway, thank you for the answer. I don't think I will pursue this issue further.

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The pages themselves are vandalism and should be shot on site. If you look in history, you'll see two parody versions (one in deleted history). Redirects are sometimes put at a common Uncyclopedia title as a way to try to preempt the vandalism. The theory goes that by redirecting to the legitimate

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Redirect creators who merit RfD notification of nomination often fail to receive it. Notification is suggested below the RfD instructions, but, coming after the end of the colored bars, it may be missed by some nominators. Would it be appropriate to extend the colored bars (possible making section

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Hi - I am trying to create new article for John Agnello. He is a producer/mixing engineer who has worked on many albums - Dinosaur Jr., Sonic Youth, The Hold Steady, Son Volt, etc. However, when I go to create the article, there is a redirect for John Agnello which takes me to John Gotti Agnello.

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they use random search boxes as if they were the browser address bar - just ask Google about that. I don't have a problem with recreating R3 deletions based on a genuine belief that they might be typed. Having said that, beware of doing this for really obscure web addresses, since it can be seen as

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I believe the template is used for tracking purposes mostly, as well as informing frequent users of the redirect of the discussion. The template also turns the redirect into a soft redirect for the duration of the discussion. Generally I suspect that the RfD template should sit there for the entire

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seems to be doing a lot of renaming of templates, followed by orphaning them, and nominating for speedy deletion as "unused", with rationales such as "abbreviation, grammar, incorrect capitalization". (The 'incorrect' capitalisation covering cases where usage would often vary according to context,

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Not knowing about the existence of this project page, I've already started a discussion about a problematic shortcut (the problem appears to have been created by mistake, the discussion is about finding the best way to fix the mistake). I don't know if it would have been right to start a discussion

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I know an area this page should cover. If an area is controversial on where it should redirect, a discussion area should be set up as well as appropriate templates etc to show the discussion going on, so in effect discussing request for redirection. I don't think i have worded this properly but you

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Unbelievable. His content matched the French article. And yet you call his "a very bad article", but state the broken redirect was necessary to "better serve our readers". That's hardly consistent. Instead of insulting him, you might want to be gracious and thank him for doing the work you refused

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On the other hand, we ought not to be preemptively creating redirects for every possible misspelling. Redirects are cheap but not completely free. For example, redirects show up on Special:New pages and trigger a surprising amount of overhead as the newpage patrol editors review the page. It is

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That page shows two edits by you so far. The first was to blank the page. Blanking the page is considered vandalism. Don't do that again. Your second attempt is hardly better since it give so little context that it will be almost impossible for anyone else to help expand the page. If you have

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in the first place. Anyways, I'm pretty rusty handling this stuff, and I'm not about to get up to speed to fix this properly anyways—I'm not coming out of retirement for this one, as it were. So I bring it to the attention of RfD regulars; if someone wishes to tackle this redirect cleanup task, go

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criteria shortcuts. I'm being bold by adding the same features as the CSD shortcuts, so that users unfamiliar with the RfD guidelines can simply link to them. The format follows the assumption that there are 6 delete guidelines (D1, D2, D3...) and 6 keep guidelines (K1, K2, K3...). For example, to

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Many are misspellings of "MySpace.com", "Google.com" or bits of eBay which have been deleted as db-r3. I've recreated them when they're on that list, as evidence that they are not in fact unlikely to be searched on in real life (as r3 says), or they wouldn't be on that list. I hope no-one objects

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I have found a tendency by some authors to robotically add every possible version of an article title based on CaMeL casing, punctuation, short forms, etc. Most of these end up completely unused. These are littering the namespace, and because they are inward pointing links, they can be considered

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is substituted. Instead of multiple top-level bullet points explaining this (like there were previously), I wanted it to be a single top-level bullet point followed by one or more sub-level points. However, because of the indented bold line giving the exact text to be entered, there needs to be a

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has nothing about having to do a WP:RFD. The WP:RFD states it deals with problematic redirects. It further states you can change unprotected redirect with an actual article. However I can find what to do with a change of redirect from one page to another. Here on the discussion page an editor

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Good question, and this is my take. Just because there is a commercial intent that does not automatically make it spam. Spam is advertising masquerading as non-advertising that's got little or no "nutritional value". It's hard for redirects to have that concern. These are useful (particularly

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Better that than the redirect. If you feel that fr.wp has better tennis coverage than en.wp, then transwiki it over here, as Bobblehead did. Don't just create a soft redirect to fr.wp. That will just act to discourage people from creating the article here. Better to have the redlink than the

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The guy has actually linked to the incorrect spelling several times - he's never noticed the difference as his misspelling provides a live link, you see. The human mind works in a funny way with spelling - he's probably read the page and not noticed the mistake. You'd have to be astute indeed to

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Shouldn't there be a special page for all misspellings - not a seamless redirect to the correct article? Maybe a 'Did you mean?' page that could redirect to the Wiktionary (or whatever it is called) and the main article too. A redirect simply cannot be right for clearly misspelled words like "ad

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That can be fixed without adding another parameter to the template. The extra parameter makes it more complicated, not less. I was in the process of changing the header page to reflect your concerns when I received a conflict due to your revert. Please note, being bold is okay, but when someone

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I've compiled a full list of article pages which contain the word "Knowledge (XXG)". Some of them are cross-namespace redirects, while others are useful redirects to related pages. Everyone is invited to review the list, in order to determine whether some merit an RFD discussion for deletion or

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Ideally, such discussions should be held at the talk page of the redirect and consensus reached among the interested parties there. If additional community input is needed as a resolution cannot be found on the talk page, tagging it with {{rfd}} and listing it on WP:RFD is appropriate. That is

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when another editor says that a redirect is personally useful to him/her. Not everyone navigates through the encyclopedia the same way. Autocomplete has made one of those navigation channels easier but there are still others which are not helped by autocomplete. The rule about plurals, for

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notice that tiny redirected line, and even big headings aren't always picked up on: that's why we have bad spelling, after all. People get kind-of mentally entrenched, and some are more prone to it that others. It's a myth that bad spelling is always down to laziness - it usually isn't at all.

195:, since the project's objective is to determine the use of such templates, not necessarily to delete them. Outcomes of such discussions can include retargeting or conversion into articles or disambiguation pages. Although RFD is mainly for deleting redirects, it is not its exclusive purpose. 3507:. If they are deleted, then you have a good argument for proposing a new speedy criterion. However, based on past experience, you are not likely to succeed here; RfD nominations based on your reasoning have typically resulted in "keep" closures, on the basis that redirects are cheap. See 2164:

I was just bold and updated everything accordingly as not all things mentioned here are for deletion. Even the logs comment that it is for deletion or other actuion. As other actions also take place here, not just deletions the whole thing has been updated accordingly and this should not be

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Myrmica is a genus of ants. The page lists all the species, which are mostly redirects to the genus page (not all, the first two for instance have minimal material). They were all created as substubs of the sort "X is a species of Myrmica," and then redirected; for a typical history see

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that a mystical experience, properly so-called, involves a sense of union (and indeed, some data suggest that only 10% of religious experiences would qualify as "mystical experiences" in this sense). Can some one please challenge this one? Many thanks if you could look into this,

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redirect and I'm sure there are a lot of other cross-namespace redirects like this one. I don't think average visitor is interested in Knowledge (XXG) internal projects while searching for articles, especially now, with Ajax suggest feature, which displays redirects as well.

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What would better server our readers would be to have the article translated as I stated. Why be fixated on transferring people to the French Knowledge (XXG) when that only benefits a small subset of our readers? Why not take the solution that benefits all English readers?

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example, has more to do with the common editing editing of new authors who don't yet know that ]s works. (The argument that they somehow encourage poor spelling has not really gained favor at Knowledge (XXG). Redirects are held to a lower standard than article content.)

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I honestly don't think that straight-redirecting incorrect spellings can possible be a good thing for spelling itself. I'm sure teachers etc would agree en mass too. If Knowledge (XXG) wants to be taken more seriously by academics, perhaps it should address this in some

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in the archives. Basically, none controversial changes should just be made. If there is disagreement, that should first be attempted to be resolved on the redirect's talk page. If that doesn't work, then RFD is available as centralized page for broader community input.

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points to. Generally, many songs on Knowledge (XXG) are redirected and merged with the album they were released on. Some, however, are kept as stand alone articles. This should be discussed and decided at each article's talk page. Has this resolved the issue? -

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At Deletion Review, they've added some wikicode that causes closed discussions to collapse so it's easier to find and comment on the discussions which are still active. Would it be helpful to add similar code to the templates used to close RfD discussions?

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to me that that the method I used for nominating multiple related redirects doesn't leave the links working properly. (As the anchors don't seem to work for me, anyway, I never noticed, so I can't test any corrections.) Any ideas how to do that? If so,

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I don't object, but I'm not sure I see much benefit. RFD pages don't get long enough that collapsing will make navigation that much easier and RFD hardly sees as much controversial content as DRV. However, if no one objects, feel free to give it a try.

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instead, but that tends to be discouraged. The best solution is to translate the French article to English and copy it here (along with the attribution history for GFDL compliance). If you cannot do that yourself, you can make a translation request at

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Obviously not the same Agnello. This is causing a problem with all Wiki pages which list John Agnello as producer. Can someone tell me how to delete this redirect so that I can create a new article for John Agnello the producer? thanks so much!

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does apply at that point, provided there is no controversy or conflict of interest on the part of the closer. For example, I cannot close this discussion as a non-admin close as I have posted a comment/recommendation in the discussion.

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The use and purpose of this redirect is currently being discussed by the Knowledge (XXG) community. The outcome of this discussion may result in a change of this page, and possibly its deletion in accordance with Knowledge (XXG)'s

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I don't think it's not doing any harm. Such redirects with different capitalisations are common and may avoid the possibility of someone not finding the right page, or someone starting a new article about the same topic. — Martin

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applies as well) will close it. Normally I'd close it now, but I'm hoping there'll be some more comments in response to your suggestion to Jafeluv, as others seemed to express some interest in discussing retargeting options. ~

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It's called "Redirects for discussion," but since I started participating a few weeks ago, I've noticed several nominations (where the proposal was something other than deletion) are closed with comments like "this was never a

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No, I'm talking about an entire class of useless redirs all over the Wiki. Don't take this so personally. If anyone thinks this is just a personal debate, be sure to check my Contributions, I've been deleting these for years.

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I think there's sufficiently few instances that a new venue need not be created, but I do think we should provide some guidance on where to list disambiguation pages for discussion/deletion. Please provide your thoughts here:

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It's not "funny" that French Knowledge (XXG) has better tennis coverage in many respects than English Knowledge (XXG). This is the reason for the redirects, to better serve our readers. And what's more important than that?

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I know this has been discussed extensively previously, however, there seem to be a lot of "Knowledge (XXG)..." redirects in the (Main) namespace that probably should be looked at. Anybody have any thoughts about these (listed

2886:.. 20 minutes and you have an article in English. Only reason it took so long is because I don't read French, so had to fire up the online translator and I had to clean up a few of the links. Much better than a redirect. -- 2851:(I wrote A1 above, but I meant A3). A3 states that articles consisting of only external links are to be deleted immediately. By the way, is there a reason why you haven't responded to the translation questions above? -- 349:, but the link takes you to the log, which I blundered into and created. It seems that everyone else does it differently, am I missing something. In any case, in retrospect, it's probably not a very good candidate. -- 556:

They're listed when someone gets round to listing them :-). I guess we could have a Bot add the next day's discussions once that page is created, but I'm not sure its worth a Bot just for this one infrequent task...

436:(the new header). There are two nice things about this system - first, the header is not substituted, so the design can be easily changed; second, parserfunctions are only used when the log is initially created. --- 776:, which it redirects to. I was all set to nominate it at RFD, but before I found the Uncyclopedia article. Given the it is a rather perjorative title, it does seem inappropriate for a Knowledge (XXG) redirect. -- 1297:

for the arguments both for and against cross-namespace redirects. Redirects which have a high likelihood to deceive our readers (such as redirects from the article space to a userpage as a way to get around the

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If the page was not a speedy-deletion candidate before the move, it can not be a speedy-deletion candidate after the move. We had a number of cases at RfD where people moved a page, then tagged the redirect as

916:, whose article doesn't even mention his name. Clint has done far more credible projects than the brief work he did with Jeffree, and this does not seem right at all. The redirect cannot possibly help anyone. 1194:). As if to imply that, if the proposal was to change the redirect's target, or to turn the redirect into a stub/dab page, that it needn't have been brought here, and that the nominator ought to have simply 3007:

Sounds good to me. I always put a link to the Rfd in my deletion summary (or edit summary if it's kept), but most admins don't do this, which can make it hard to find the old Rfd. This tool should be very

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to allow greater use of soft-redirects when content is moved to an outside wiki. Since this has come up in several recent RfD discussions, I would like to invite greater participation in that discussion.

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article. Is creating so many inbound redirects a problem, and would there be a chance of deleting these multiple redirects via RfD, or would the response be "well, keep: they might be useful to someone?"

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appears. When you click on that link, you are taken to the appropriate article in French Knowledge (XXG). That is exactly what I intended; therefore, I do not understand how this "doesn't work".

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stated “Basically, none controversial changes should just be made”. So I take it I can do it myself and only raise something here if another editor disagrees? Thanks for any advice in advance.

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Autosuggest mitigates when the need is to find current pages. It does not help when attempting to trace links and shortcuts used in discussions that have been archived or moved into pagehistory.

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The use and purpose of this redirect is currently being discussed by the Knowledge (XXG) community. The outcome of this discussion may result in its deletion in accordance with Knowledge (XXG)'s

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Note: I retagged it with RfD, but underneath the redirect, thus categorizing it for tracking purposes. I am neither endorsing or not endorsing the removal of the RfD tag in this scenario. --

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Redirects to other languages don't work. Since the MediaWiki software doesn't support them, they are by default broken redirects and should be deleted per the CSD criteria. You can create a

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Wow. I didn't know there were so many. There are some redirects which are legitimate, so I suggest userfying the list to identify where exactly do they lead to. Some of them direct to the

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Whether the templates are useful is a judgment call for TfD. Whether the redirects are useful could be discussed either at TfD or RfD. But they definitely should not be speedied.

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and propose it there. First, however, a good way to gauge consensus in this area would be to take several redirects that you feel are useless and then propose them for deletion at

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Yeah, it's examples like Yahoo, MySpace and Google. I realise they're not getting quite what they wanted typing it into Knowledge (XXG), but at least they'll learn something ;-) -

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much better to wait until you've made an actual mistake (like typing it in wrong twice) or seen an actual redlink in an article before creating the redirect. Hope that helps.

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unduly promotional, especially when there are many typo redirects for sites less well known than the ones you listed. Just use common sense, and I'll bet no one will object.

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I have temporarily restored the first one because it was not a valid speedy-deletion. However, it should be procedurally nominated to RfD for discussion by the community.

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This seems to be a reasonable move, except in the case that the mis-typing is expected to be fairly rare and the search results for the mis-type would not be helpful. —

394:(which fills in the current date). If there had already been previous nominations, you would have edited the existing page. If that doesn't make sense, let me know. -- 363:, inserting the required fields and save the page. This discussion is different from AfD's which places discussions on sub-pages, and not directly to the daily log. - 3668: 2562:. That is redirection. Going to one page, but ending up at another. All you have done is effectively create a page with a single external link which fails CSD A1. -- 480:

I am just wondering whether a redirect i just created by accident is eligible for speedy deletion. I created by accidently knocking caps lock when moving a page.

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I've gone ahead and speedied it. As for auto-archiving - this page really doesn't need it, as it is rarely edited. It probably needs a manual archive though. ---

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It's completely okay to close a discussion early if the nominator withdraws and no one else has argued for deletion. This can be done by non-admins as well. See

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Is their any particular process or precedent for closing discussions early? I'd like to withdraw my - in hindsight rather ill thought out - nomination at

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objects to it, you need to bring it to talk and get consensus before reverting them. By the way, WP:CFD does not separate the action and the rationale. --

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interested in the internal workings of our policies and in the history of their development. Some of the old CNRs are necessary for that archeology.

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Actually, the redirects that I created do work. I tested them before Chris_G's bot summarily deleted them. As for your soft redirect proposal, see

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here, or if it's right to move the discussion here (I've linked to the discussion on numerous pages where I think interested editors would see it.)

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which is a list of search terms from the 2006 AOL data. These are actual things that actual people type into actual search boxes, in some numbers.

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serves to announce to anyone using the redirect that its behavior may change shortly, and as such they should not be removed or hidden from view.

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article, while others are clearly cross-namespaces. For most CNRs, judgment must be exercised on their actual usefulness. I'll start the process

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However without it it seems automatic assumption of delete. It is only one extra parameter and would help to clarify what is being proposed.

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You're talking about fixing double redirects. I only found the one you mentioned, and fixed it. If there are any more, please let me know. -

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The answer is that you can change it yourself if you wish to, but you don't need to as a bot will fix it automatically a short while later--

2141: 1763:. We agreed that this is a difficult word and often spelled incorrectly, but we're not sure whether these redirs are really in the sense of 1267: 1160: 309: 219: 3546:

Would it be a problem if I combined the US census redirect discussions? They probably should have bean nominated together from the start.--

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You can't just search for your own name to quickly jump to those discussions where you commented when you want to see how they were closed.

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this template. Using {{rfd}} rather than {{subst:rfd}} provides a convenient default reason summary for the deleting administrator, e.g.:

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Well, I would say don't doubt yourself, but if you want to withdraw, just say so on the RfD and a passing sysop (or, since you withdrew,

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in place on the redirect, notifying redirect-users of the discussion, until the discussion has been resolved and closed. At the moment,

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done what they had proposed, instead. I'm just a little confused by this; is this page named differently from AfD and MfD for a reason?

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Incidentally, wouldn't it be more logical for the renaming of templates, and the deletion of template redirects. to be handled over at

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regarding setting up a bunch of redirects using a new pseudo-namespace, "EIW". These will be shortcuts that will link to topics in the

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is specifically for recently erected redirects. However, I recently tagged a redirect for deletion that was about five years old, and

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Editors who have thought about WP shortcuts could probably contribute something valuable to the discussion, so please take a look at

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being challenged, please. The term "mystical experience" has a more specific meaning than "religious experience" - it was argued by

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template links here and not to the dated page. Inevitably this will leave several users into giving up on voicing their opinions. __

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refer to the redirect guideline of deleting because the redirect might cause confusion (#2 on the delete list), you can simply type

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linkspam by Google - which is extremely bad. Why are these not in CSD? Do I really need to go through this this page to get rid of

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says "...a cross-namespace redirect out of article space, such as one pointing into the User or Knowledge (XXG) namespace...", the

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Just to clarify, the purge needs to be done on the URL to the main RFD page, not the URL of the date page that is not displaying.

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A much better version of the page is in the works, I can assure you. That redirect was no more helpful than would be redirecting

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only mentions "Redirects to the Talk:, User: or User talk:". Am I missing some additional explanation somewhere? I just noticed

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second top-level bullet point to avoid the list being split up. I would rather not have this but I can't see how to avoid it.

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Based on the recent nomination of several redirects from article space to the image namespace, I've started a discussion at

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Redirect should be changed to redirect to "Virtual Machine" or perhaps another area, but not to a specific vendor product.

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Also note you can manually adjust the template parameters when there is a day that no log page is made (for example, see

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So what is your suggestion? Delete these redirs or let it be for now and just not create that many for another topic? --

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is a new template that may be used to notify those involved with a redirect about a RfD concerning that redirect. --

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One more thing - if the date header is not added when the page is initially created, it can be easily added by using

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Where should deletion nominations for off-Knowledge (XXG) redirects, such as redirects to Wiktionary, be listed? At

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Don't be condescending. I had already read all that stuff several times. What exactly is "CSD A1" and why does

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first, so that semi-automated tools don't mark the disambiguation page for conversion back to a redirect. —

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proper encyclopedic content, add it. If not, a redirect is better than that single, ambiguous sentence.

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Note: I restored the RFD to the top but added a dab-like hat-note for the duration of the discussion.

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Especially with the particular example you cited. I think it's funny that there is an article about a

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Closed discussions which have controversial content or harsh words are a step removed from public view.

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already routinely done and would not be a change. It was one of the reasons behind renaming this from

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I am new editor especially regarding changing redirects/name of pages/etc. On 25th November on the

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The discussion will be wrapping up its seventh day tomorrow. Then it would be likely to be closed.

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to cover these. Please feel free to contribute to the discussion, but please post there, not here.

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Is this the page to discuss soft redirects to other Wikimedia sites, or should they be taken to

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Oops, I thought that it was March 1 (since it is in Australia) so I put it on the March 1 page.

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Yes, this page covers all redirects, soft or otherwise, to any destination, in any namespace.--

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No, they don't per your own description. A redirect transfers you to the target page. Click on

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with the predictive text in the search box) and they don't seem to be hijacking other names.

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The first parameter is not the action to be taken. It is the target category / article. See

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Extending the instruction's colored bars to include notifying creator and main contributors

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The simplest thing to do is to change it to a disambiguation page. You may need to create

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unduly - they're things actual bad typists look for on teh intarweb, or at least teh aol.

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lead to a disambiguation page to allow the reader to select the intended destination. --

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You would nominate it for deletion here at RfD. See the main page for the directions. --

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Knowledge (XXG) talk:Deletion discussions#Disambiguation pages for discussion/deletion

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Category:Redirects from other capitalisations and Template:R from other capitalisation

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controversial, I thought. Many other pages do this as well, in a different way, e.g.

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on the proper wording on the template. As you know, the RFD project was renamed from

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The article is full of context, which clicking on the redirect link plainly shows.

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Again, today's list is not yet merged into this page. This is unfortunate since the

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I'm seeing a lot of users referring to the RfD guidelines presented in the section

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in which RfD would be expanded to cover disambiguation pages and exempt them from

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Sorry if this has been raised before but I couldn't quite find the answer myself.

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Wikipedia_talk:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Proposal:_expand_R2_to_Image_namespace

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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The result of your translation was a very bad article that I had to clean-up.

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Knowledge (XXG) talk:Notability (people)#Shortcut WP:BLP1E should not link here

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Ah yes, forgot this was "for discussion" and not "for deletion" fot a moment.

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Knowledge (XXG):Bot requests#Creating a bunch of redirects that are shortcuts

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I made a request for clarification of a couple of the deletion criteria, at

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Never-mind, it would probably be better to ask in the redirect discussion.--

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Should disambiguation pages be brought to AFD, MFD, or RFD? (or a new venue)

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link? The difference in behavior is pretty obvious. You might want to read

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I don't believe there is an established precedent. In my opinion, if it's a

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Why is the September 25 log not showing up here? Did I mess something up?

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Proposal to allow vanity user redirects in subpages of one-letter redirects

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is already occupied by a company. I'll create hatnotes to differentiate. -

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For what its worth, I'm seeing a lop-sided discussion but not enough for

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I think that the redirect for Stefan Salvatore should not be redirect to

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has created a whole lot of redirects from false spellings to the article

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I've written up some new templates for the logs. These templates include

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I clarified that the target is the current target after seeing a recent

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All of the effort spent arguing this would have produced a decent stub.

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You're both right, sort of. Redirects are cheap and we are supposed to

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My intitial concern was that other people could be using the incorrect "

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hominen/m". People's minds very often don't pick up on the difference.--

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I would still like to point out that the new suggest feature provides a

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I made a suggestion to change the template to look something like this:

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Would it be a problem if I combined the US census redirect discussions?

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I've boldly added a fulltext search box to help find old RfDs, on both

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fail it? It's really not helpful to use jargon and cryptic language.

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I just explained why. What part do you not understand? Did you try the

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and was already a redirect. Then someone redirected the target away to

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The redirect just go to the wrong Articial and need to be delected.

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I think you're disputing the redirection of an article you created,

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Knowledge (XXG) talk:Double redirects#Many double redirects are good

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Thanks, John. I kept reloading the page, but it wouldn't show up.

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on its talk page. I've added it for you this time though. — Martin

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I've just opened a deletion case for the redirected misspelt word "

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templates and the closure instructions to match the DRV pattern?

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RfD notice was removed from redirect while discussion was active.

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Is there a script to close Rfd's? It would be really helpful.--

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III with an even darker orange) to include the suggestion? --

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Portal talk:Poland/Poland-related Knowledge (XXG) notice board

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personal style, which side of the Atlantic one is on, such as

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Please share your thoughts on the matter at its entry on the

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Hmm, yeah that makes sense, just seemed a bit odd. Thanks --

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Yes, they do work. I just created a new article entitled

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Can I change the redirect myself or do I put something on

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insert it in the main text, so I won't confuse anyone. —

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I added ?action=purge to the URL and it showed up for me.

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I would like the redirect from "mystical experience" to

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Are these redirects never allowed? The bot operated by

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is scoped.) I shall leave a comment over there, also.

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discussion page I raised the question why the redirect

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have not yet been closed. It's been well over a week.

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You can find the discussion Pater is referring to at

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Absolutely irrelevant redirect keeps getting put back

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As I understand it, normal sequence is to leave the

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have been nominated for deletion on 4 May 2009. See

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article titles to be redirects? A case in point is

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If this redirect was kept, then what do we do about

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Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion#Lord Byron

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It doesn't quite use the same wording though. 2979:Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion/Header 2315:Redirects to a foreign language Knowledge (XXG) 1055:Just to inform whatever admins check here, the 1031:Knowledge (XXG) time & dates are actually 823:While looking for the disambiguation page for 432:(used to hide code to prevent confusion), and 3351:The redirect at the following internal link: 3322:Category:Redirects from other capitalisations 3156:Knowledge (XXG):Templates for deletion/Header 626:I changed the merge suggestion to merge with 18:Knowledge (XXG) talk:Redirects for discussion 8: 3074:Mystical experience and religious experience 2987:Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion/Log 2983:Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion/Log 2845:Knowledge (XXG):Criteria for speedy deletion 2323:is deleting them automatically. See, e.g., 1609:Well, clearly the person who typed the link 378:Knowledge (XXG):Redirects_for_discussion/Log 3434:redirs that have "ltd", "Ltd", "Ltd." etc? 2207:Yes it does but in multiple templates. See 183:Currently, a discussion is taking place at 4093:Template talk:Rfd#Proposed additional text 3277:Ah, thank you. I feel like a n00b now... 2052:Protocol for nominating multiple redirects 2030:about expanding speedy deletion criterion 770:, the name of the Uncyclopedia article on 321:(in the Redirects for discussion page) or 1415:It's easier to find the open discussions. 4236:. Please help explain them if you can.-- 1558:Soft-redirects to non-WikiMedia projects 1268:Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion 574:I doubt the bot would get bored, lol. -- 2373:tennis tourney on fr.wp but not here.-- 1674:Is there such a thing as redirect spam? 741:The article isn't a redirect. The term 661:I have tried to create a redirect from 3868:Stefan Salvatore (The Vampire Diaries) 2973:Added a search box for old discussions 536:Why aren't they listed on the page? -- 288:retargeting. The list can be found at 130:, and we can work on it from there. - 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 3425:Speedy for robotically created redirs 2911:redirect. Best to have the article.-- 2084:Talk:Nazi crimes against ethnic Poles 1784:User talk:Pie4all88#Lots of redirects 1418:There's less eye clutter on the page. 1300:generally accepted inclusion criteria 428:(preloaded when creating a new log), 7: 4082:The following discussion is closed. 1710:, all of which are redirects to the 819:ESC related redirects need attention 492:secondly, should i set up miszabot? 3308:FYI, I thought you'd like to know: 3034:updated the nomination instructions 420:New navigational templates for logs 359:After reaching the log page, enter 343:How to list a redirect for deletion 3278: 3227: 634:Pretty Baby (Vanessa Carlton song) 607:Pretty Baby (Vanessa Carlton song) 235:"Content was: "{{rfd}}#REDIRECT ]" 24: 2127:World War II atrocities in Poland 2107:Help:Redirect#Changing_a_redirect 2088:World War II atrocities in Poland 1927:New notification template RFDNote 993:Editor's index to Knowledge (XXG) 310:When should we delete a redirect? 4228:Question re some of the criteria 4122:The discussion above is closed. 3857: 3801:I have posted a proposal at the 1392:Collapsing of closed discussions 1280:Knowledge (XXG):New pages patrol 1080: 768:Socialist Republic of Scouseland 29: 3830:The Vampire Diaries (TV series) 1761:Special:Contributions/Pie4all88 1434:Any objections if I update the 1151:Problems with WP:BLP1E shortcut 1089:They have all been closed now. 983:Proposed pseudo-namespace "EIW" 839:probably shouldn't redirect to 341:OK, bit confused, the section " 4234:WT:R#Deletion criteria 1 and 9 3936:was removed from the redirect 3793:Proposal to expand purview of 3787:14:01, 16 September 2009 (UTC) 1917:04:32, 29 September 2008 (UTC) 1903:02:58, 25 September 2008 (UTC) 1881:02:53, 25 September 2008 (UTC) 1871:02:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC) 1839:12:20, 21 September 2008 (UTC) 1817:05:40, 21 September 2008 (UTC) 1795:09:42, 20 September 2008 (UTC) 1777:09:31, 20 September 2008 (UTC) 471:21:09, 25 September 2007 (UTC) 454:19:35, 23 September 2007 (UTC) 441:19:01, 23 September 2007 (UTC) 412:08:35, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 399:21:37, 21 September 2007 (UTC) 370:21:33, 21 September 2007 (UTC) 354:20:16, 21 September 2007 (UTC) 337:Listing Redirects for Deletion 332:18:46, 21 September 2007 (UTC) 299:10:52, 19 September 2007 (UTC) 290:User:Mtmelendez/Wikipedia CNRs 283:Knowledge (XXG)-Redirects list 277:12:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC) 255:12:51, 18 September 2007 (UTC) 170:22:02, 13 September 2007 (UTC) 152:22:01, 13 September 2007 (UTC) 137:03:16, 18 September 2007 (UTC) 117:19:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC) 1: 4246:14:02, 28 December 2009 (UTC) 4220:08:25, 10 December 2009 (UTC) 3819:21:44, 7 September 2009 (UTC) 3765:21:44, 7 September 2009 (UTC) 3746:04:14, 6 September 2009 (UTC) 3732:03:48, 6 September 2009 (UTC) 3692:02:42, 6 September 2009 (UTC) 3669:04:42, 3 September 2009 (UTC) 3645:Please see the discussion at 3097:20:56, 28 February 2009 (UTC) 3069:09:42, 21 February 2009 (UTC) 2849:article criteria number three 2154:13:14, 15 December 2008 (UTC) 2142:the guiding principles of RfD 2131:World War II crimes in Poland 2120:10:58, 15 December 2008 (UTC) 2092:World War II crimes in Poland 1510:? 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