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supporting for it and others opposing for it. It was universally acknowledged that the candidate approached contributing here in a different way than most editors, but whether this was constructive or destructive was similarly split. Reading through the opposition, I was not convinced that most people were opposing just for the sake of the user being different.
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The main difficulty was adjusting for certain effects and trends that occur, which I like to call the "maverick effect" and the "tenure effect." The maverick effect is quite simple: A user with viewpoints considered to be nonstandard or less supported, or a different methodology in approaching things
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The degree of support/oppose polarization is always something to look at as well. There was a rather small neutral section in comparison with previous so-called "controversial" RFAs, and though there were changing views the opposition was uniformly firm in opposing. The support was similarly firm in
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Now the latter manifests itself in appeals to relatively distant edits and generalized characterizations of personality. I did see aspects of the second, but not as much of the first. In fact, the points most repeated in the opposition were related to a very recent incident, not to other longer-term
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I have only one quibble - it wasn't tl;dr. Anyone with over four years and 30K edits, plus over 100 expressions of support deserves no less than a thoughtful analysis. I didn't find the time I needed to add a !vote, but I did read much of the commentary, and it was clear this wouldn't be a simple
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X!'s Edit Counter Username: Ling.Nut User groups: autoreviewer, reviewer, rollbacker First edit: Aug 06, 2006 20:15:52 Unique pages edited: 9,757 Average edits per page: 3.44 Live edits: 30,104 Deleted edits: 3,456 Total edits (including deleted): 33,560 Namespace Totals Article 14270 47.40%
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The maverick effect is more difficult to sort out. Generally a candidate will moderate their stance a bit for RFA, but certain behaviors, I think, made this effect quite visible. The self-posed optional questions most clearly demonstrated this point, creating a polarized response, with some
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From a numerical perspective, the percentage was 64%, which by historical precedent is not successful. Promotions at this percentage or below have been rare and contentious. My initial reaction after a skim and a reading straight through was to request a
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tends to attract a good amount of support and opposition. The tenure effect is even simpler: The longer a user edits, the more likely they are to make "questionable" edits or to start a beef with someone, intentional or unintentional.
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TL;DR: This RFA pretty clearly demonstrated a no consensus result. Arguments were supported with actual events, and both sides had a rather large mass with relatively few people in the middle.
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process to do, it would be handling these RFAs. There were a number of well-supported points on both sides of the debate, and sifting through was not an easy task. I expect to catch some flak.
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behaviors (e.g. "the multiple retirements, and the near-complete lack of adminly experience"). As a result, I was not convinced that there were serious long-term grudges in the opposition.
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I also applaud your post Bibliomaniac. It shows great integrity and good practice to discuss your reasoning so carefully in a contested RfA such as this.
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Agreed with the rationale and the result. Thank you for performing this laborious task, and then having the stamina to document the process.
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supporting. Opposition badgering was not prominent either, which indicates that there might not have been that much to argue about.
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Bibliomaniac, thank you for your well-considered reasoning.
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If there's a task a crat dreads/is bred by a ghastly
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Commend for sensitive handling of a difficult case.
113:Yeah, I think it was a reasonable explanation. — 8: 18:Knowledge talk:Requests for adminship 7: 184:See above. Well done Bibliomaniac! 24: 1: 194:02:39, 10 November 2010 (UTC) 179:00:38, 6 November 2010 (UTC) 165:00:36, 6 November 2010 (UTC) 154:12:23, 5 November 2010 (UTC) 141:09:56, 5 November 2010 (UTC) 123:20:05, 3 November 2010 (UTC) 109:18:45, 3 November 2010 (UTC) 89:04:14, 3 November 2010 (UTC) 222: 213: 151: 137: 133: 107: 105: 100: 84: 79: 74: 221: 220: 216: 215: 214: 212: 211: 210: 147: 135: 129: 103: 98: 96: 82: 77: 72: 35: 28: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 219: 217: 209: 208: 207: 206: 205: 204: 203: 202: 201: 200: 199: 198: 197: 196: 34: 31: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 218: 195: 191: 187: 183: 182: 180: 176: 172: 168: 167: 166: 163: 162: 157: 156: 155: 152: 150: 144: 143: 142: 139: 134: 132: 126: 125: 124: 121: 120: 117: 112: 111: 110: 106: 101: 93: 92: 91: 90: 87: 86: 85: 80: 75: 66: 62: 58: 54: 50: 48: 42: 40: 32: 30: 19: 161:Geometry guy 159: 148: 130: 114: 73:bibliomaniac 70: 69: 67: 63: 59: 55: 51: 43: 36: 29: 171:Xxanthippe 99:SPhilbrick 33:On closing 95:task. -- 47:cratchat 186:Barts1a 39:WP:RFB 119:iller 16:< 190:talk 175:talk 116:Deck 131:Axl 192:) 181:. 177:) 188:( 173:( 149:7 136:¤ 104:T 83:5 78:1

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Knowledge talk:Requests for adminship
WP:RFB
cratchat
bibliomaniac
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04:14, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
SPhilbrick
T
18:45, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Deck
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20:05, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Axl

09:56, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
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12:23, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Geometry guy
00:36, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Xxanthippe
talk
00:38, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Barts1a
talk
02:39, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

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