Knowledge talk:TemplateStyles/Archive 1

1489:, etc. I'm pretty sure that I'd simply replace the previous names with better names in the template and its TemplateStyles stylesheet if existing class names are poor. Then the older names would simply be unused and somebody would eventually remove them from common.css (if that's where they are). The only chance of affecting anybody else is if they use the old class names in their user css to provide overrides. I guess an insource search for definitions of the old class names within userspace should turn up any. Then it would be just a matter of leaving a note to the user that they need to update their user.css. -- 99:

layout going on. Additionally it is a cornerstone of modern web design that your mobile and desktop interfaces should share common features and look much the same so as to not annoy or confuse the viewer - but this is best achieved with more breakpoints, not less. Also if someone has designed something that jumps design so dramatically, then that is a problem with that specific design, not the overall system. In short I want there to be flexibility in setting media queries as appropriate to the specific design, or if they must be set, a minimum selection of commonly used viewports.

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templatestyles invocations as I please (and maybe I might please to put them inside the conditional expressions... is that verboten? :). Or, if the particular class doesn't appear on the page, I've now shipped some CSS not needed for that page (which is minimal, but it would not have happened prior even though every infovocation in the end-HTML would have gotten it, so that of course would be larger than the CSS). Thoughts appreciated. (Maybe these are cached on the user side and it's mostly a non-issue?) --

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to do something dumb at the end of the day. (The particular syntax highlighter gadget has previously been noted as failing in that regard and its author has been recalcitrant in correcting the issue. It is his choice to do so, but given his recalcitrance I would suggest that tool as a terrible example. The syntax highlighter natively supported in 2010 and 2017 wikitext editors by MediaWiki has no issue parsing most constructs of this sort .) --

31: 919:, just as you can find transclusion of a particular template that way. There's no straightforward method that I know of to find pages with these errors or to find all pages using any TemplateStyles CSS page. The latter seems rather unlikely to be implemented, but a tracking category for pages with errors could be added easily enough (file a request for one in 719:'In general, this means it should be a subpage of the related template' In general yes.. but definitely not solely. For instance the main page uses lots of transcluded pages to generate itself. Most likely it will therefor have at least one CSS page of its own, not connected to a template. Haven't looked into that exactly, but it's rather likely. — 428: 5120:(rather than a literal category) in the same manner, and it works. However, I don’t know what performance implications these categories/templates have (one of template documentation subpages’ purposes is to improve wikitext processing performance), so I’d use this technique very cautiously and rarely. — 5351:

Its not valid html5 and a known issue, but it falls within the parsing rules for foreign/invalid content and all browsers support it (because of shadowcontent, webcomponents and scoped css legacy). It's part of the "we are not valid for validness sake, but for actual valid results"-policy (similar to

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I think in general, yes – e.g. adding a template in the middle of an article shouldn't affect how unrelated sections (e.g. the references at the bottom) are styled. Guidelines do allow for occasional, common sense exceptions, which I think would include a template that builds part of a table applying

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strikes me as wrong. What is the benefit which is being negated? As for confusion, I admit it may be confusing in wikitext but that doesn't strike me as some overriding concern, even given the discussion above. Lastly, no-one responded to "what templates would be affected if we banned templatestyles

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That would make sense if you wanted users to be able to target the entire thing with their own CSS. There isn't any specific reason I can think of why you couldn't just add the class even if you weren't currently using it. If the names are unique (properly namespaced) the extra class wouldn't affect

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MediaWiki outputs HTML 5 as identified by the doctype at the beginning of each HTML page. Not HTML 4 and not XHTML (1, 2, or its HTML 5 flavor, which is given barely-passing mention in the specification). Anyone parsing anything that is output by MediaWiki with another model is wrong or is choosing

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What happens when I subst a template with a template style invocation? None of the docs pages I looked at indicated that anything different should happen (all were silent on the matter, in fact), in which case I would expect the template style sheet tag to be added to the page on which the template

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Forgive me if I misunderstood, but I read that as saying only media queries with 720px or 1000px would be allowed. I object to this. I have numerous use cases for 320px & 480px breakpoints, which are basically essential for any useful mobile responsivity if there is anything except the simplest

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The vandalism issues probably dictate that a TemplateStyles stylesheet needs to have the same protection level as the template where it is used (which has implications if a stylesheet gets used for more than one template). It is imperative that class names are chosen to be unique to a template, as

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Imagine I wanted to set a breakpoint at 321px for some reason, this is close enough to 320px that it shouldn't be changed if it was done this way. But 326px would be too far off the agreed point and need a good reason to be so. To give an example, I often ( probably wrongly :D ) code min-width and

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using template styles.) But, most subst-only things are talk page templates I think with a few templates like the German infoboxes scattered around (and we obviously wouldn't add template styles to those templates because we prefer our templates). Either way, that's why I wanted to survey what we

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We should probably use semantic naming for our classes where possible. "talk", "talk2", and "talk3" are not very semantic. Which leads to a question: What should one do when there are already existing classes, not named well, which might be used by various and sundry people to style this template

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Right, I left that unspoken, and apparently so did the RFC participants. That's why I am not sure whether it should be a Phab task or a note on the extension page. You say it's a 'known' issue but I see no evidence of it being known. ;) (I am fully supportive of TemplateStyles, just casting some

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There's certainly no problem with using the longer classnames for the table cells that you suggest, but I don't think it would yield any increase in specificity in practice. The shorter names would be more intuitive for other editors to pick up and use, so there is some advantage in using Izno's

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Not per se unnecessary, just unlikely that I would have a collision with another template so long as the CSS related to the gold or silver class in the other template also takes good practice into account (i.e., .mytemplate-gold for any old class or table.mytemplate tr td.gold for another table,

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Good. So we agree then that when a template and its stylesheet are paired, testing changes to the stylesheet requires a pair of sandboxes: a template-sandbox and a stylesheet-sandbox. You agree then that you can't have a stylesheet-sandbox without having a template-sandbox. We agree so far. That

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invalid XHTML. The space is indeed traditional to help HTML 4 parsers from when XHTML was initially developed (15 years ago now). Modern web browsers have no issue parsing either version these days, most older web browsers have no issue parsing either version, and I expect most web spiders are

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It looks like a perfectly good use of the functionality to me, even if it was not intended by the developers. Obviously you have to have the templatestyles tag somewhere on the page, but I assume that the table will always co-exist with the legend template, so that is taken care of. Should the

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On purely technical grounds, I wouldn't like .../styles.css/sandbox because of the content model issue, and I have no idea why anyone should have to go around the issue since this isn't reader facing. Stylesheet sandboxes can be tested in tandem with the template sandbox or with the user's web

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I suggest we add something about being consistent in making a distinction between mobile'ish and desktop'ish sizing for template styling, as having items jump around multiple times in an unpredictable matter can be rather annoying. The cutoff point between mobile and tablet/desktop styling for

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Is it really invalid in XHTML, not only in HTML4? As far as I remember, XHTML (XML) doesn’t require spaces before self-closing slashes, it’s just a custom in order to prevent old HTML4 parsers from failing on this. But HTML4 is long dead, so probably we can go without supporting it. Anyways,

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already (basically, what to do with old class names)? I would prefer not to retain, or even leave for deprecation in any significant period for a simple template such as this one, the old class name. I'd also not like to have to bug an (technical) administrator to make the changes for me.

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A second question: In the above case, I have all of the styles in one sheet. Some however will not be used in a single invocation (italic and sans-serif, in particular). Does that mean that there should be more than one styles page? It seems from the above discussion I can invoke as many

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to all of the superfluous text. You would also not be able to affect citations not based on the CS1 module. Using Lua inside the cite templates seems far more manageable and should be implementable as you proposed, although the module would have to be able to handle cases like hyphenated

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We do seem to be agreeing over the facts, but not over the reasons. The whole "styles of sandbox vs. sandbox of stylesheet" business also applies to module data pages, where it is debunked by actual practice, and therefore holds no water. Next comes the guidelines, which I think you're

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I'm going to poke this a bit: I see 5 or 6 heads who all agree that the page should end with .css, to Pppery's 1 without. Of the larger group, I see a general consensus for /sandbox/styles.css. Do we actually need to go to some sort of technical RFC or should we call that consensus?

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functionality of the tag be constrained to its template at some point in the future (i.e. no "leakage" onto the rest of the page), then you could create a template to hold both the table and the legend and apply templatestyles to that. I see no downside to what you've done.

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seems best to me, for consistency with all other sandboxes of subpages, which follow the name pattern "Template:foo/subpagename/sandbox", not Template:foo/sandbox/subpagename". Inability to create directly isn't a problem; non-admins can just do what I did with a move.

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We need help figuring out a couple of details here. Any help would be appreciated. In particular, we're trying to a apply a class to them that lets access locks be treated as external links icons, which can be displayed/hidden independently of other external link icons.

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It doesn't make any difference as far as I can see. The classes will be available to the rest of the page content whether we subst or not. I would expect each invocation to call the stylesheet, as I can't see any reason why it wouldn't. Should be easy enough to test.

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indirectly, which can, of course, be changed, but this change may (or may not) have larger impact by adding a lots of bytes to page HTMLs. Feel free to open a Phabricator ticket about this if you think it’s really important (and find no existing ticket about it).

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on the page will add a standardised link to the stylesheet, and warn if it doesn't exist, giving a link to create it. If this was used universally it would ensure all the TemplateStyles usage was uniform, and help cut down mistakes. What do you think?

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WOW, there is no reason to duplicate the RfC here. I kept the question as concise and unbiased as I possibly could for a quick answer to verify the practice is acceptable before returning to RfC. They are capable of clicking on a link to read more.

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Some additional text for one more class in TemplateStyles is a very small addition. And it is very simple to do. But it greatly increases the ease of use of that template in my opinion. I edit a lot of tables. In fact, I have written large parts of

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Should templates with template styles be substed? If a different question: should templates meant to be substed use template styles? Do the styles load once with each invocation or once per page when there are multiple tags pointing to one place?

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I have no problems with subpages. However, it seems I cannot create a CSS page under Module namespace (it is interpreted as a Lua script), CSS pages under User namespace are not sanitized, and I cannot create CSS pages in template namespace per

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The issue is stupid LUA for the CS1 templates which means I can't test much there. You might as well ask me to write something in Chinese. I might be able to hack something in wikitext, and someone else might convert that in a proper LUA thing.

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Yup, it's probably much simpler to do with LUA, but for a proof on concept, it's much easier to spend 10-20 hours fiddling with stuff and abusing CSS like crazy than spend months to learning LUA so I can get to a point that I'm sort of able to

1967:). And, I wonder how many times these templates have styling. Let's see if we can find that out before we ban template styles in substed templates? It seems like we lose out on templatestyles otherwise just for this class of template. -- 5799:

to help keep size and load times minimal, amongst other reasons. Do template styles follow the same practice? Are there any unforeseen problems? Keep in mind that duplicating the styles would add an extra 16 CSS selectors (thus far) to

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browser's inspector utility. .../sandbox/styles.css makes more sense to me than .../styles.css/sandbox.css because in order to test this hypothetical TemplateStyles sandbox the sandbox template would have to be used. Personally, for

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but of course it would not work ("Page User:Ita140188/sandbox/styles.css must have content model "Sanitized CSS" for TemplateStyles (current model is "CSS")."). Is there a way to make an exception for specific pages? Thank you.

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I can go with all of the whitespace conventions except the one about indenting declarations with tabs. If I press the tab key in the edit window, I'm taken to the edit summary window. I normally use two spaces for this indent.

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wherever it is found in the page. I am not sure if it is worth it to add a Phab task for this, at least as documentation that the use of TemplateStyles will cause HTML validation to fail, or e.g. better to put something in

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The example is calling two different templates, each inserting an inline stylesheet. Calling the red one again doesn't restore the red as it uses the earlier inline style and the sandbox style with the blue is later in the

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Now that we've agreed there are not two different possibilities for the stylesheet-sandbox/sandbox-stylesheet because they are necessarily the same thing, that returns us to the original question: how to choose between

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The style must apply only to the associated template's output. It would be confusing if adding a template to one part of a page were to completely or partially change the display or styling of an unrelated part of the

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Please, also remember that bots (on wmflabs) and scrapers might have expectations with regard to the presence of certain classes. So i'd take significantly extra care with templates that are part of processes etc.

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The first selector "table.aow-driver-results" makes the latter selector "td.gold" only apply within the specific table, so doing that is unnecessary. (this is basically doing "use .myTemplate tr rather than tr")

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There is indeed more than one possibility, determined by context. Consider these two questions: (i) what is it a sandbox of? (ii) what is this stylesheet intended to affect? Imagine we have an existing template,

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I didn't realise that, that's enormously useful. looks like error checking is built in. While I am thinking about it, is it possible to list all pages using TemplateStyles / all pages with TemplateStyles errors?

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Whatever. My memory may be getting rusty about when the space-slash convention was first introduced. The fact that it's optional in HTML 5 is not a reason to stop using it, when it breaks things if you do so.

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The one question I have is whether, when substing, we should output an inline-styled version (as in that version) or a style-less version. My preference is for the style-less version. Opinions are welcome.

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That just makes no sense. TemplateStyles is not special here in any way that I'm understanding -- there's no technichal reason why the MediaWiki developers couldn't have coded it so that instead of typing

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I fixed it for you. Apparently MediaWiki gets a bit confused if the default content model of a page changes, I had to change it to something else then back to Sanitized CSS. I think some upcoming work for

5013:. Such indirect trackings are a load on editors like me. I do understand the TSTYLE of course, and its consequences. So we'll have to discover documentation along. (I remember module-user-sandbox setup) - 5328:. It does not look like HTML validation was chief among the decision criteria in so far as it doesn't seem to have been considered at all. Obviously browsers don't mind loading the CSS for <style: --> 2188:

Get the name of the template css pages in the module and insert a /sandbox/, then provide that in the use templatestyles box? IMO it would be preferable either way to link these things at the bottom of

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hardcoded into the module. The TS required is not known (=dymamic, by template input), so defining the TS in the implemented template (before the module call #invoke) is not possible. Any examples? -

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is that we normally append "/sandbox" to a template to create a sandbox for testing. However, I'm not aware of any documentation that indicates that, nor any technical advantage in using that scheme.

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So, I did some hunting/poking. For templates which are regularly substed, we can make it so the templatestyles tag is not substed along with the rest of the template. This came up in the context of

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Media queries for screen width should normally use one or more of the following standard values. This limits the number of times content can jump around multiple times in an unpredictable matter.

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In the template's original usecase, the "blinking text" is just an underscore, mimicking the flashing cursor of a command prompt. That doesn't seem like a massive accessibility violation.

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The "stray" bulb is deliberate (I've just made that clearer). It demonstrates what happens when you use a class name on a div that is the same as one used in a templatestyles stylesheet.

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The problem with all of this is that the classes "leak out" onto the page, which means we need to pick unique class names, otherwise we can get all sorts of unexpected interactions. --

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I don't see itemprop mentioned in Phabricator for the design of TemplateStyles, so that may be something that can be fixed. Recommend a phab task for this regardless of the other. --

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before templatestyles was enabled earlier today. This more or less worked as expected. However, since TemplateStyles was enabled I can't edit the style sheet further. The message is

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means that Redroses's two possibilities reduce to one, because the sandbox of the stylesheet is indistinguishable from the stylesheet of the sandbox. Have you accepted that yet?

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because it is easiest to remember. If I remember the template name, then I just add a dash and I then have the class name. That is how most of the table templates I use work:

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character. If a syntax highlighter chokes when the space is omitted, that's a bug in the syntax highlighter and not indicative of a problem in the code that it is parsing. --

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And it is easier for less experienced table editors than me. The pattern is obvious. They can just copy the above 2 lines to many other sortable tables without problems. --

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For sufficiently 'longterm' comments, the styles page itself is fine. For shortterm comments, use the talk page of the primary template as is normal for coordination. --

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for one specific navbox, and the "arrow lists" appear perfectly fine in Dictionary.app whereas the lists with hlist class are only displayed as regular bulleted lists.

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Since the classes "gold", "silver", etc. are selected only when inside a table whose class is set to aow-driver-results, I think that satisfies the reasoning behind

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Common.css is a huge file. One of the reasons for TemplateStyles was to lessen the size of Common.css. So the CSS for TemplateStyles would only be pulled as needed.

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For comparison, the breakpoints in Timeless are – mobile: up to 850px; then desktop-small: up to 1099px; then desktop-mid: up to 1339px; and then desktop-large. -

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and converting all the uses for a blinking cursor to that template, while removing the blinking from any templates that use it for something other than a cursor.

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Minerva is currently 720px and 1000px. I suggest we therefore start with these values and ask people to discuss any other media query settings before applying. —

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template talk page. One user expressed an interest in having two classes with identical styling for reasons he feels makes the template easier to use. Example:

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Ok thanks. I am not feeling evil enough to throw extra work at the people implementing this at the moment, but it's nice to know that it's an option if needed.

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Note such a template is not necessary to display a message if the target stylesheet doesn't exist. TemplateStyles will already display a message something like

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There's very few transclusions outside of User and User_talk namespaces, where it seems to generally be used for a single blinking character in userboxes like

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There is no "second context" where you can test the effects of changes to a stylesheet-sandbox without having a paired template-sandbox to display the effects.

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to a .css page. All fine. OTOH, I'd like to work with these css pages, off css-coding. Think background categorising, track usage, planning standardisation.

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is going too far. Use those modules on templates that people tend to incorrectly subst, but don't worry about the majority where no one tries to subst them.

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You can load templatestyles from a module in the same way you can call out to any other extensions tag. with frame:extensionTag. An example can be found in

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I was trying to make the text in the last column be centered, but a user reported that the style is leaking to other tables on the page. I then used edited

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and its subpages. People copy what they see done on other tables. So they can copy it without having to wade through template docs, and make class choices.

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Something needs to be done about this stylesheet: it's misused across like ten or so different templates as a generic means of implementing blinking text.

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for T:css subpages then, while I actually have described the need. So I'll have to scrape our WP screen, plaste it into a spreadsheet, and ... whatever. -

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btw. this might change at some point when we fully switch to Parsoid, as it is easier to postprocess HTML with Parsoid to correct something like this. —

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I wonder how often this happens. I know there are a few templates which set "this template must be substed" and then a bot goes around and substs them (

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An admin can set the content model for a particular page. I don't know whether there would be any further problems. Please post the final result here.

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at the end and the name also reflected its status as a sandbox style sheet but I could be just as happy with Module:Citation/CS1/sandbox/styles.css.

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Anything but categories can and should be placed on the main template’s documentation subpage. Categories may not be applicable there; if they are

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convention, per the points in RexxS's summary above. It seems to make the most sense and clearly links the two, without raising the problems that

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in the wikitext. Note there's no way to "subst" the current version of the stylesheet, much like you can't "subst" a specific version of an image.

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There's no harm in requesting it. If the developers don't think it's important enough to make time to do it, they'll just leave it in a backlog.

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Indeed. I was assuming that we'd want follow the principle of using prefixes, but we'd use something derived from the associated template (like

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A non-specific followup: should the template emit both a talk-quote-inline and a talk-quote-italic? So someone can target the whole template? --

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Putting the hlist styles into their own CSS page might fix some display problems with applications which don't load MediaWiki:Common.css, like

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the classes "leak out" onto the page, which means we need to pick unique class names, otherwise we can get all sorts of unexpected interactions

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I have started a discussion about using a general templatestyles page directly in articles to align a whole column without code in each cell:

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if you want to test changes to styles. What's the point in having documentation that's wrong? Just use sandbox1 and the problem goes away. --

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to point to a different "sandbox" version of the stylesheet for testing changes to the stylesheet. To avoid confusion, I've now shifted to

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You cannot edit this revision because its content model is sanitized-css, which differs from the current content model of the page wikitext

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just adds a normal wikitext link to the styles... it doesn't stop you using a sandbox version of the styles in the template's sandbox. -

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My understanding is that CSS pages are only parsed as wikitext on the CSS page itself, and not on pages that include it. That is adding

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Extra work for no observable reason. The fact that it is a sandbox style page is quite apparent with the /sandbox/styles.css variant. --

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I didn't think your post was clear or specific enough. And the other discussion is focused on multiple questions, not just this one. --

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There is no "second context" where you can test the effects of change to a datapage-sandbox without having a paired module-sandbox to

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Agreed. We probably ought to give the advice not to bother converting to TemplateStyles any templates that are routinely subst'd. --

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If I click "Show all" on the bottom 2 tables they only open up the top table. The collapse button only shows up on the top table.

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I'm fine with all of those coding conventions. They are pretty commonly used anyway, so shouldn't be much of a problem in adopting

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I don’t have one at hand, but you can just edit a TemplateStyles page and click preview. While searching for a test page, I found

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The immediate alternative is that we just use a normal invocation on each template page, but I'm not really in favor of that one.

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There are no inline styles here. If you subst the templates you get exactly the same effect. That would show that even though the

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which "pairs together" that module and its data page. Testing changes to the /data page requires a corresponding paired module.

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does not point to it. But that clearly isn't true -- I even personally used that sandbox for a deduplication of the code of

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Should text like "Do not use TemplateStyles in a template that should be substituted; in templates with TemplateStyles, use

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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tag. The thermometer renders correctly, so the styles are applied. That can be checked by using the browser inspector. --

1175:) and you would also have to have them such that you could show the text in the orders needed; you'd basically be adding 1080:

That seems a bit iffy. It might be possible, but might require some excessively weird HTML. TemplateStyles is enabled on

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to use ".awards-table-5", but that just made the code not work anymore. Any idea on how to make it work and not leak? --

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Please don't get exasperated. I replied to you above (00:42, 26 July 2018 (UTC)) regarding what could/should be done. --

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Ok I did that. Although I am not used to that exact system, I am pretty sure it's assigned to you so you should see it.

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For anyone reading this later, the trick to making ".awards-table-5" work was adding that class to the template as in

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the above demonstrates. Do you think that we can make any improvements to the guidelines to reinforce those points? --

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Another point comes to light. Because a /sandbox page shares the documentation with the main template, you can't use

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Oh, that's not that bad. You just added some text to the page today about templates working. Why do you not think a

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all allow custom styles (usually with multiple parameters). What approach should we take for template styles here?

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is still used for conversion. Such a parameter would also allow us to track color combinations for accessibility.

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but I don't know what to change it to. Clearly the default syntax highlighting doesn't recognise sanitised CSS. --

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After the attributes, or after the tag name if there are no attributes, there may be one or more space characters

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You can find all style pages (i.e. pages with the TemplateStyles "sanitized CSS" content model) by searching for

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which is still at the W3C Candidate Recommendation stage, so browser vendors are not obliged to support them. --

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Do the styles load once with each invocation or once per page when there are multiple tags pointing to one place

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template. It mostly went smoothly with testing using my custom.css. I copied the working css to a style subpage

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I'm fairly certain there is now a task in the Timeless project to sync the cutoffs to the documented cutoffs. --

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I wonder if that's a serious or a rhetorical question--if the former, in the styles.css page for the legend. --

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I think it would be quite unwieldy to do it with TemplateStyles (if you were to do it by adding a parameter to

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Knowledge:Village pump (technical)/Archive 185#Help is needed to make the header row with sorting icons sticky

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The one I wasn't sure about was the naming prefixes. mw- and ext- are not appropriate in our case, I think. --

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here to test things out (being aware of certain CSS features that aren't supported in TemplateStyles, such as

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Having CSS pages not deviate from the standard sandbox naming convention totally is an "observable reason".

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content model. Since the page was created before the TemplateStyles extension was enabled, it was created as

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No objections, if in practice something more is needed then it can be added then, but for now it seems good.

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Tgr on Phab indicates that, because of the placement of the template relative to the table, we might have a

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anyway because someone decided to re-use hlist for something in the Minerva interface, so it wouldn't hurt.

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tag in the resulting code, which may negate many of the benefits of using TemplateStyles in the first place.

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and cascade protection. Note that templates themselves shouldn't be directly cascade-protected though (see

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The space is optional in XML and XHTML, but was required in HTML 4 if an empty element tag ended with the

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The use of the style/link tags and why TemplateStyles are injected as inline as they are is documented in

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Seems like overkill, however if you want to improve Statustop to its own template style go right ahead. —

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I believe TemplateStyles could be used here to fix this issue. Basically, if using MiniveraNeue, make the

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I don't know how many times I have to explain this, but the /sandbox uses the documentation page for the

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The other thing you could do is have some page name logic for the page transcluding the doc, e.g. with

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I think the latter is neither reasonable nor fine for testing changes to styles. The documentation for

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in general its a good idea, but we shouldn't beat anyone (or edit war) over things like whitespace. —

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There are 25 cs1|2 templates and each of those has a sandbox. Because all of the live templates use

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tag directly to style pages, and then calling that a "class of template" with just the tag in it. --

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max-width media queries to be 1px separate from each other to avoid an overlap, eg 600px and 601px.

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is called to get all the styles (if any) which are then output before the normal convert result.

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Not just comments, I meant. More like automate, categorise. Categorise by talkpage you mean? The

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operating as expected as well. Even systems like Notepad++ have no issue with either version. --

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I don't think it currently can be, it's too widely spread. Better focus on easier stuff first. —

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I think that is reasonable. I also think that +- 5px on these breakpoints should be acceptable.

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by shortening the header names, and putting the sorting icons back with the header names. See:

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and technical advantage that we automatically get a sanitized-css page if we end it in ".css".

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The real problem is that testcases for changes to styles will have to be on separate pages. -

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Modules and datapages go in linked pairs, so according to you it's obvious that we would use

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I used a copy on the German Knowledge as the sandbox before TemplateStyles was enabled here.

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we need to pick unique class names, otherwise we can get all sorts of unexpected interactions

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On the first question, I'd be very much in favour of semantic names for the classes, such as

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Having CSS pages not deviate from the standard CSS pages naming convention, as described in

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I'm okay with that given all the discussion about 'in-page' styles that I know has been had.

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It's part of the "we are not valid for validness sake, but for actual valid results"-policy

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Solved. Need help with multiple templated tables on the same page using the same styles.css

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There's nothing fallacious about the argument. Your analogy is faulty because the template

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Yes this is an interesting issue that I don't think any of us really considered so far... —

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For maximal compatibility with browsers and other tools, it would be best if this emitted

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Knowledge talk:Manual of Style/Accessibility § Group of users interested in changes to CSS

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CodeEditor seems to provide a tab for you, so I'm not sure that's too much of an issue. --

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Hello. I am trying to add templateStyles CSS in a module I am working on in the sandbox (

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Substed or non-substed, either way multiple uses of the same stylesheet are deduplicated.

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Substed or non-substed, either way multiple uses of the same stylesheet are deduplicated.

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how we used to include 'invalid' IE specific stuff to make certain things work in IE). —

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But there will be a need for a sticky sorting row in other partially collapsed tables.

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What should the sandbox version of a TemplateStyles page be named? This affects the way

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Talk:COVID-19 pandemic by country and territory#COVID-19 pandemic deaths#Monthly totals

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misinterpreting/applying too strictly, as it is a (future/experimental) stylesheet for

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The table is using the same styles.css page as the above discussion. See discussions:

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Template talk:Gallery##mobile: Please drop usage of inline styles - use TemplateStyles

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What's the problem with having them in subpages? That's what we do for Modules with

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doubt on the documentation, which is nothing new for most software projects ;).) --

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with all the other standard subpages. (Categorize if you want since I don't think

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Responsive designs should take care to avoid dramatic changes across breakpoints.

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Solved. Need help making a 2nd header row sticky in a table using TemplateStyles

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Templates and stylesheets go in linked pairs, so it's obvious that we would use

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BTW, there's also the fact that one of the two people likely to implement it is

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If that was done we could safely ignore 1100px and 850px, maybe also cut 600px.

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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Any ideas? Any help would be appreciated. Here is the TemplateStyles css page:

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Knowledge:Village pump (technical)/Archive 166#If allowed - default protection?

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The div has a class name matching one used in a TemplateStyles tag on the page.

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to add a CSS page, you could just add them like you do regular templates, as

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makes no difference by previewing the section with the templates subst'ed. --

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restore the red colour. I infer then that subsequent template invocations do

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Knowledge:Village pump (technical)/Archive 166 § RfC: Enabling TemplateStyles

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So far, there seems to be consensus for the first 2 classes. 2 editors want

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We probably should avoid having substed templates litter the wikitext with

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I'll have to disagree with the possibility of two contexts. A sandbox for

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element in every row, so if the table contains a combined ref cell (with

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we seem to append "/styles.css" to any template to create its stylesheet.

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Yeah, that was my thought. Just figured I'd throw the question out. :) --

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for a cell in the Results column (which is the recommended way anyway).

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as a pseudo-namespace for TemplateStyle sandboxes, operating much like

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have today to see what we lose/gain. It's a basic decision analysis. --

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It's safe to subst templates using TemplateStyles, you'll just get the

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A template that's been subst'd is no longer a template of any kind. --

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buttons only work on whatever is the top table in the article itself.

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Knowledge:Village pump (technical)/Archive 166#Weird behaviour at Afd

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Does the response here mean the following bullet is still consensus?

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is treated just like a normal template transclusion for things like

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Yes, otherwise all pages using citation templates would show up in

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Where are those classes like gold, silver, topten etc. defined? --

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Let's take another example of a non-standard type of page: module

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in this context. (Suppressing further errors from this subtree.)

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to all the 3 partially closed tables at the top of this article:

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Should hlist be a template style? If so, where should it live? --

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W3C's validator is throwing errors when I test a page that uses

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Both of these keywords are intended to be introduced as part of

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creating pages that end in ".css" fits with the requirement at

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to prevent accidental substitution" be added to the guideline?

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there's no way to "subst" the current version of the stylesheet

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It's my understanding that only essential styles are added to

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content model, so an admin would need to change it. See also:

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And see partially closed table with sticky sorting row here:

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Template:American Open Wheel driver results legend/styles.css

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box have a 100% width. I lack the skills to do this however.

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Substituting a template which uses TemplateStyles leaves the

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for both templates. So which .../styles.css do you target in

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mw:Help:TemplateStyles#In_which_order_do_CSS_styles_override?

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if you want to try things there, or you could try using your

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Template:Monthly cumulative COVID-19 death totals by country

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Category:Knowledge pages with incorrect protection templates

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You might as well say that we're missing out on using the

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It does demonstrate the importance of unique class names.

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Knowledge talk:Manual of Style/Tables#Template:Sort under

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isn't yet fixed, so you could say it is captured there. —

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styles to the whole table, as might also be the case for

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To clarify all these combined plus some I just added is:

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Issue with style being applied to other, unrelated code

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I would nominate it for deletion. Blinking text is not

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so that if the sandbox version exists (as a subpage of

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Are template styles subject to cascading protection? —

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to see if there is a reasonable technical solution. --

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reload the original style sheet. You can confirm that

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like what? And why is this an issue? Looks to all be

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Help talk:Citation Style 1#CSS for citation templates

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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

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I created a second CSS page to use for experiments:

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I'd be interested to hear how that would be done. --

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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

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HTML 5 compliance issues relating to TemplateStyles

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There is a stray blue thermometer bulb on the page.

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Or, the page might contain the stylesheet for 799:thanks - validated with a protection demo here: 5222: 5165: 3475:There is no doubt that the stylesheet is named 3214:By the same fallacious argument, a sandbox for 3010: 1596:The source of the styles is still there in the 190:320px (minimum size for a modern mobile device) 5293:The second would seem fixable by giving it an 5066:useful, they can be included as CSS comments ( 4294:to a CSS page will add the CSS page itself to 3543:Have I missed anything out of that summary? -- 3400:mw.loadData("Module:Good article topics/data") 3392:s. All of your arguments seem to apply there: 2937:My inclination is to add a parameter to each ( 1395:, as well as making two of its' subtemplates: 5831:A summary of the conclusions reached follows. 5720:when it knows a certain style is needed, and 5228:element must not appear as a descendant of a 4901:buttons work on the separate template pages. 4588:I'd like to change the guidance accordingly. 4298:, but not any pages that use the stylesheet. 4086: 3464:There is no doubt that the template is named 3327:, which is why it's a poor choice of name. -- 3184:does not point to it. Any sandbox version of 2097:to use when testing changes to the styles. -- 857:if the named page does not exist (taken from 421:A summary of the conclusions reached follows. 298: 134: 8: 4932:Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/styles 2.css 4633:Why does the code editor warn against using 1047:Could some TemplateStyles expert comment on 745:to handle special cases like the main page. 617:All of the points seem like common sense. — 5893:- with it being the popular choice so far: 4794:Watchers of this page may be interested in 4790:Group of users interested in changes to CSS 4063:That's a possibility in some cases, but in 2603:. So where should I create this subpage? -- 2356:Sorry I misunderstand before. I've changed 1864:, much like how we avoid littering it with 1190:Please correct me if I'm wrong about this. 5650:What are the options to apply an existing 4920:Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/styles.css 4830:COVID-19 pandemic by country and territory 3709:I'm trying to preempt the edit wars. ;) -- 2305:, not a separate one. You only get to use 1271:template to use TemplateStyles, using the 1049:Help_talk:Citation_Style_1#Arbitrary_break 5716:shows a generic solution. The code calls 4439:Template:Awards table5/styles/sandbox.css 3668:Adopt MediaWiki coding convention for CSS 3525:mw:Help:TemplateStyles #How does it work? 3506:mw:Help:TemplateStyles #How does it work? 3306:tag that links to the stylesheet-sandbox? 1391:and was able to remove it's styling from 196:1000px (minimum size for desktop screens) 5708:is too complicated but searching it for 4889: 4460:Shouldn't it be "table.awards-table-5"? 3479:. I assume all of that is common ground. 2091:Template:Thermometer/sandbox1/styles.css 1868:and other complicated unreadable stuff. 1823:Template:Thermometer/sandbox1/styles.css 1631: 1257:How do I edit sanitized-css stylesheets? 859:MediaWiki:templatestyles-bad-src-missing 3924:table.aow-driver-results tr td.aow-gold 3444:Module:Good article topics/sandbox/data 3440:Module:Good article topics/data/sandbox 3424:Module:Good article topics/data/sandbox 3414:Module:Good article topics/sandbox/data 3369:<templatestyles src="Foo.css" /: --> 3035:Template:Example/styles.css/sandbox.css 2677:CSS / HTML / TemplateStyles experts at 5396: 4880:Template:COVID-19 pandemic death rates 4861:<div class="db-Y292aWQtY29sbA": --> 4846:<div class="db-Y292aWQtc2hvdw": --> 4479:. However, this will not always work. 4266: 4005: 3528: 3517: 3509: 2946: 2938: 2501: 1957: 1951: 1945: 1902: 1810: 1768: 1759: 1442:I've made a simple test conversion of 1292: 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 5877:in addition. 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It will be using 2095:Template:Thermometer/sandbox1/doc 863:if the "src" parameter is omitted 193:720px (minimum size for a tablet) 6005:The discussion above is closed. 5654:into a module? For example, use 5171:not allowed as child of element 5108:Template:MongolUnicode/fonts.css 5011:this GA talk scroll #bottom cats 4820:provided some wikitext to add a 3200:seems the right choice to me. -- 2918:In the context of meta templates 2500:was premature--especially since 1165:<span class="db-Zmlyc3Q": --> 1034:The discussion above is closed. 541:), be adopted as a guideline? - 426: 29: 5334:as a warning to users. Or both. 5244:attribute whose value contains 4875:Template:COVID-19 pandemic data 4200:I don't think that's possible. 2998:looks for such a sandbox page. 2626:Template:TemplateStyles sandbox 2531:Module:Sandbox/Ita140188/chart2 1819:Template:Thermometer/styles.css 1415:unnecessary. Progress baby... — 1169:<span class="db-bGFzdA": --> 1164:<span class="db-bmFtZQ": --> 707:Looks like a good start. · · · 132:How about something like this: 5802:Template:Sort under/styles.css 5086:Do you have a live example of 4833:- in the "Statistics" section. 4581:where I noted a solution like 4369:is one example of the latter. 4267:I don't think that's possible. 4138:Template:User OS:Dos/style.css 3602:Module:Citation/CS1/styles.css 3438:and yet, despite all of this, 3398:(arbitrarily chosen) includes 3316:and its associated stylesheet 3009:, which came up in discussion 327:1400px (large desktop screens) 324:1200px (medium desktop screen) 318:1000px (small desktop screens) 152:1400px (large desktop screees) 149:1000px (small desktop screens) 1: 5758:14:59, 13 December 2022 (UTC) 5636:00:37, 26 December 2020 (UTC) 5611:18:51, 24 December 2020 (UTC) 5595: 5589:00:11, 24 December 2020 (UTC) 5556:19:58, 22 December 2020 (UTC) 5539:19:58, 22 December 2020 (UTC) 5520:14:39, 22 December 2020 (UTC) 5492:04:08, 15 December 2020 (UTC) 5476: 5439:12:16, 24 December 2020 (UTC) 5410:21:06, 22 December 2020 (UTC) 5392:20:25, 22 December 2020 (UTC) 5370:20:19, 22 December 2020 (UTC) 5347:22:18, 20 December 2020 (UTC) 5319:04:07, 15 December 2020 (UTC) 5303: 5202:element that is a child of a 5130:01:06, 21 February 2021 (UTC) 5102:00:57, 21 February 2021 (UTC) 5082:00:52, 21 February 2021 (UTC) 5058:00:34, 21 February 2021 (UTC) 5040:23:41, 20 February 2021 (UTC) 5023:23:37, 20 February 2021 (UTC) 5001:22:50, 20 February 2021 (UTC) 4986:22:43, 20 February 2021 (UTC) 4808:22:07, 20 December 2020 (UTC) 4698:18:15, 24 February 2020 (UTC) 4677:09:45, 24 February 2020 (UTC) 4651:19:36, 23 February 2020 (UTC) 4617:03:42, 15 November 2019 (UTC) 3504:there are recommendations at 3110:mw:Help:TemplateStyles #Usage 2087:Template:Thermometer/sandbox1 309:600px (small phablet devices) 306:480px (medium mobile devices) 199:1200px (large desktop screen) 143:480px (medium mobile devices) 18:Knowledge talk:TemplateStyles 5996:10:20, 5 February 2024 (UTC) 5980:10:16, 5 February 2024 (UTC) 5958:10:03, 5 February 2024 (UTC) 5852:12:15, 6 February 2024 (UTC) 5814:09:31, 5 February 2024 (UTC) 5646:Lua in-module templatestyles 5297:value, or adding a value to 4785:03:32, 29 October 2020 (UTC) 4483:will always select the last 3418:There is no more reason for 3288:Template:Db-multiple/sandbox 3280:Template:Db-multiple/sandbox 3041:content model for non-admins 3011:§ Idiot's question: substing 2972:Template_talk:Infobox#Width? 2478:I think recommending use of 2372:Template:Uses TemplateStyles 1996:Which is entirely irrelevant 923:, being sure to tag it with 861:). 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