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Created by an SPA, this article is so short that no editors have patrolled it as acceptable. I feel there may be grounds for notability of this 10-word stub that consists only of a list of publications. Perhaps the Islam/Muslim scholars task force could improve this stub.
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I see that similar proposals have been made before, and that no-one objected, but that they were never implemented, so I've started moving them. Sorry, I've made a bit of a mess of things. "X in the Golden Age of Islam" is the best wording I can think of.
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