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470:. I think this might have devastating effects on the page impressions of other sources of reliable, evidence-based medical information like those on Knowledge. I would appreciate your thoughts about this development: Are my concerns just a case of German angst? ;-) Do you plan to analyze the effects of this Google feature on the visibility of Ebm resources in general and on Knowledge pages with medical information in particular? As Google plans to expand this feature to other countries (possibly including Germany), do you have any suggestions on how to avoid negative effects? -- 146:
That's a worthy cause. I would help train someone from Cochrane how to do this. Does Cochrane have a mailing list that they could use to announce that experienced Wikipedians will happily volunteer to train someone on this? I can't say I'm ready to commit to volunteering for it yet though. Maybe
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Yes, correspondingly, for disease related articles the treatment section would be the place to add information regarding evidence. I think what Chris is asking is, if there are any guidelines that suggest evidence from a systematic review would be a preferred sentence, or if there is a standard
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What if we had a standard section in the Contents for drug and intervention articles called "What's the evidence?" or simply "Evidence" or similar to both insert evidence into these articles in a standard spot but also to just introduce the notion of needing to refer to evidence and to validate
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Some of the editors were starting their edits with "A Cochrane Systematic Review found that". I have generally advocated against this because I didn't want it to appear as though we were advocating a brand and thought it was sufficient enough that the source will always be seen as The Cochrane
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Yes we need to advise against this. 98% of the time we just want the conclusions. Only if there are systematic reviews that directly contradict each other like in the situation of breast cancer screening do we state "Cochrane found X" "USPSTF found Y"
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Conversely, a list (or maintenance category) of all wikipedia articles citing Cochrane sources would be useful, and could be ordered by the relevant subject group. I'd love to see a concerted effort to advance the use of
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We have had those google boxes for a long time. It just appears they are improving them. It does not appear that the data they contain is very indepth even now though. It is more at the level of the Mayo Clinic and the
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itself. Maybe I'm just biased, but it seems to me that it's a relevant page which would benefit from the right sort of attention from contributors who actually do happen to know something about the subject.
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WP articles cite outdated Cochrane reviews. This is a particularly easy case of the more general problem (finding usage cases for superceded sources).
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We are looking for someone to go over all the new articles put out by the Cochrane collaboration and than add or update our current content.
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Library. But may be its worth discussing this and would be nice to have an official guideline on this?? Comments?
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Adding a section "What's the evidence?" as standard part of contents on drug and healthcare intervention articles?
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Not sure how it will affect readership of Knowledge. Only time will tell. Not that concerned though.
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This sounds exciting. Where might interested editors be needed to help? What might they do? Thanks.
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etc. We should also be able to provide some tools to assist the process of identifying
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published each month. You can see a list of new articles in the December 2012 issue
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I would call this the medical uses section where the evidence should be discussed.
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template where evidence is a subsection in the treatment/medicinal use section?
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Hello. Could I put in a shameless plug to look for help in improving the
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The whole thing should be based on the best available evidence as per
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Editing content with "A Cochrane Systematic Review found that"
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to get notifications when new issues are published.
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Knowledge talk:WikiProject Medicine
EBM
Evidence-based medicine
MistyMorn
talk
19:42, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Doc James
talk
contribs
email
19:44, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
MistyMorn
talk
19:51, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Biosthmors
talk
20:29, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Doc James
talk
contribs
email
00:33, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Biosthmors
talk
02:23, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Cite Cochrane
Cite pmid
LeadSongDog
come howl!
19:09, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

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