Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Numismatics/Archive 5

1810:) currently says that it is not appropriate to use non-free images on articles which are not specifically about the currency or stamp. I think this is generally true, but is a bit restrictive. I'm trying to think of an example though. What I thought of is the US law that living people cannot be used on currency. Can anyone give me more details? Wasn't there a Treasury secretary who put his own picture on a note? Of course, most images of US currency are public domain, but even if they weren't, I think it would be appropriate to show the image in a biography article about that guy, since it was a notable thing that he did. Similarly, perhaps there are currency designers who are only famous for their art? I want to take it up on 4639:

given in the article title. Since neither of the proposed reasons for using "dollar" in the definition rather than "Guyanese dollar" actually holds water (in my opinion), and given the disadvantages of this style (i.e. it "looks wrong"), I think we would be better off using "Guyanese dollar" in the definition, assuming that we don't want to change the article title (which, as you say, might not be such a great idea). In an internationalised context, such as Knowledge (XXG), I don't see any problem with using the disambiguated ISO name in the definition. It seems obvious to me that in local or other usages where there is no possibility of confusion, the country adjective would in practice be dropped. I wondered about "The

2693:(as in that £20 case) isn't enough, because someone only requested permission for use on Knowledge (XXG), but the rules state that anyone must be allowed to use the data, or any subset thereof, in no matter what context. So in order to use the £20 note, the Bank of England would not only need to give permission for Knowledge (XXG) to use the image, but also for any forgeries interested in making forged £20 notes. I assume (and hope) that the latter would be completely out of question for BoE, so there is probably no way to use the £20 here with just a BoE licence... 2077:). For a redesign, it's harder to say, and probably depends on the circumstances. Since coins and banknotes are not all redesigned at the same time, I think it's going to depend on the situation. Generally, I like having the top-level split be coins vs. banknotes, since that's how my interest is split. But then, when a redesign happens because of a change of monarch, all the coins change at the same time (do the notes generally too? I don't know). To take the US as an example though, we seem to change one coin/bill at a time, so there's no logical split of designs. 2631:, which is a very nice page) had the album art removed. All this fair use rationale stuff is so confusing. No main page is cited that states what Knowledge (XXG)'s or the Wikimedia Foundation's policy is regarding fair use image in tables and lists. So I can't argue with all these people saying it can't be done. The stupid thing is all the polcy stuff I find is too ambiguous (i.e. it must enhance so and so). Another thing is that coins and banknotes are all public domain anyway and the scaned images can't be copyrighted. My advice is let the images be removed, 3084:

thickness and weight of each coin, the length and width of each note etc. This would enable me to work out that if I have a coin acceptor that will accept coins of between 12mm and 30mm in diamter, between 1.2 and 3mm in thickness and between X and Y grams in weight, then I can accept all coins except A, B and C from county D etc. And if I have a note acceptor that will accept notes of widths between 45 and 75 mm than I can handle these denominations of notes from these countries.

1600:. This is one of the most important articles in Knowledge (XXG), and certainly of utmost importance within the topical scope of this WikiProject, but unfortunately it is in a very poor state as of now. The selection for COTW makes for a good occassion for a concerted effort to improve it, and I am really counting on the members of WikiProject Numismatics, with your knowledge and expertise in the field, to help other users involved bring it at least to 4683:"The dollar is the currency of Guyana" -- this could be confusing to people often using dollar currencies from other countries. For example, if you're often using US dollars, you might read the sentence as "The United States dollar is the currency of Guyana". Or if you're often using Hong Kong dollars, you might read it as "The Hong Kong dollar is the currency of Guyana". "The Guyanese dollar is the currency of Guyana" -- this is unambiguous. ( 4126:

aprox 26.64 g stated weight for 7 mace and 2 candareens. They have become collectible "in their own right". Would anybody be willing to write an article about them ? I really think a good article with some info about their metal content could be very valuable, as they seem to be surfacing a lot since the precious metals prices have been rising. I would be willing to help out, but I just don't know enough about them to really do a good article.

31: 4292:, unless you can prove me wrong by showing reliable mentioning of the word "Afghanistani" by any official educational, government or media source. There are billions of mentionings of the word "Afghan" in the official encyclopedias, books, media, movies, newspapers, by world leaders, world politicians, world journalists, and the list goes on and on and on... Isn't that enough evidence??????? Now, show me one single "official" mentioning of 4296:? Of course, just like with many incorrect names, you may find it mentioned by mistakes at some unreliable places, blogs.... That is NOT OFFICIAL, that's like hearing someong on the street using the word by mistake and you make a note. The most reliable and easiest way to figure out these kind of things is to rely on direct Afghan government or Afghan main media sites, to see how the people of that country write the name correctly. 2602:. I'm not sure how to respond. It looks like fair use imagse of coins/banknotes will not be accepted unless we can say that they are "needed" in the article (beyond what I've already put in the rationale, "Text descriptions of coins are helpful, but cannot replace a picture"). Most of our images are fair use, so this is important if we want to have images in articles. Any ideas? 1454:. Knowledge (XXG), specifically, "permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org", has copies of the first two(Don's and aboutcoins) email permission correspondence. If anyone would like a copy of either three, please ask, and I'll be happy to send you a copy. If anyone knows of any website that has lots of good coin and banknote pics, I would be more than happy to contact them. 2686:

assume that there is little need for central banks to renew copyright to their art (since old money would frequently be replaced by newer issues), so I assume that all coins & notes older than at least 75 year (or whatever the limit is) belong to the public domain & can be freely used, but it would also be nice if we could depict current issues.

166:? It seems that virtually all images have been deleted since somebody got the bad idea to upload them to Commons and then delete the local copies here. Commons has - not surprisingly - deleted these images again as copyvios. An admin might be able to restore the local copies, but the images would still have to be retagged. Regards. 3924:' goes into the British Pacific Islands numismatics category. What's wrong with that? A numismatist who is interested in that specialised area of numismatics classifies their banknotes and coins by geographical region. I see that having these categories can serve as an online geographical and history lesson at the same time. - ( 2651:

public domain yet would work, but asking for permission from every single central bank in the whole world would probably be quite tiresome, and the licences probably have to be renewed once in a while. And I see that even on that £20 note page, there's a request for a fair use rationale for each and every use of that image... (

3036:. As of now, there is no opposition to the merger. However, I do not know enough about the subjects to do justice to merging them together, and would like to request help from other editors more familiar with the subject. Feel free to weigh in on the subject of the merger till it closes, whatever your view may be. Thanks. - 1724:. Otherwise I hate to reverse a decision apparently made before. Since we've been over names so often, maybe we could use some outside opinions, especially to try to match wikipedias style guide which was recently brought up on some talk page. Whatever way it goes, it needs to fit universally not just for Australia. 4638:

but actually doesn't. It is also completely unobvious (to me) that the dropping of "Guyanese" in the definition is supposed to be telling me that the correct full name is just "dollar" and not "Guyanese dollar". Quite the opposite in fact: it looks as if the author just forgot to use the full name as

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I see Dove's comments. I left a note there but I will reply here. The article title is, by implication, the correct full name of the currency. Changing the name in the opening definition doesn't, to me, clarify anything in this regard; it just looks like an oversight. Perhaps we should be titling the

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I agree with Chochopk and Chris.B. There is no basis for adding catalogue numbers. What purpose would this serve? Knowledge (XXG) is not a guide and there is otherwise no relevant reason to do so. And I have a question what do you mean by “currency unit”? Do you mean dollar, pound, yen, etc.? –

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This may have been asked before, but everytime I write an article which includes a currency figure, I wondered if it will ever be technically possible for us to simply link the currency symbol and figure, and it will change to a local currency or any currency the user chooses as his default currency,

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It gets worse. Betacommand replied to me that unless the text is restructured to be prose form (not table) and discuss the significance of the design elements on the coin and how they've changed over time, fair use can't be justified. It's only one opinion, but I don't have the mental energy to argue

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Yes, we have permission from Don's Coin World, as far as I know that hasn't changed by any wikipedia rules, except maybe for country specific where copyrights are questionable. We also have permission from aboutcoins.org. I was gonna put it on the main page, but I can't find how to get to his images.

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According to one websource there are at least 300 different types of light (or fake) chinese "silver" dollars. The Yuan Shi Kai yuans and the various "7 mace and 2 candareens" and "dragon dollars" are only the best known of these. They often seem to weigh between 18 and 22 grams as opposed to the

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who is one of the admins enforcing the rules), fair use images of coins can only be used if the image is discussed in the article (info like who designed it, what it means, why it's significant). A table containing images with other detail info is _not_ considered fair use. This issue and others are

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Anyway since the permission to use images from Worldcoingallery.com has been granted is there a need to add images from that site as illustrations to appropriate articles? Is the quality of images there considered appropriate or is there point in getting better (bigger) images? Thanks in advance for

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lists £5 as a rarely used British coin. On the £5 page it says that the coin only exists in the form of various commemorative coins. Shall all commemorative coin denominations be added to the "rarely used coins" section in the infoboxes, as long as the commemorative coins remain legal tender? All

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Australian coins have had their name changed a few times. I think Australian coins should get changed to; Amount(Australian coin) like; 1 dollar (australian coin), shilling (australian coin). Because calling it 'Australian Florin coin' sounds stupid, and calling it 'Australia Florin' doesn't mention

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I think it's useful to present both the English name ("Swiss franc", "British pound (sterling)" etc.) and the local names (franc suisse etc.). However, I'm afraid that listing the name in all official languages of the countries concerned might result in a long list of names for some currencies such

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I believe that all general numismatic articles should be written using the information that in in these two books, including the catalogue numbers, plus there should be freedom for cross-reference with other catalogue numbering systems. The currency units SHOULD be capitalised in these articles, as

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What I'd like would be a database where I could look up data on the currency in use in all of these countries, i.e. what are the currency units, what denominations of coins and notes are in circulation (and preferably how many are there - to eliminate very rarely used notes), what are the diameter,

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The importance between 2D & 3D is that when photographing a 3D object, there is a creative aspect -- lighting, camera angle, etc. That's the part that is derivative, and the photographer has copyright for. As far as downloading from WCG, I don't think there's much point unless you know the coin

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but I've got some questions left. Whom do the images of coins belong? As far as I understand they belong to the state that issued them and not to the person/organisation that scanned them and published them in the Internet. Then why should we ask permission to use them here if according to the laws

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and some other images contain a notice that permission has been granted from the Bank of England to use the image on Knowledge (XXG), so I guess that this £20 image can be used freely anywhere on Knowledge (XXG). I suppose that having such a licence for all currency images that haven't entered the

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I was wondering what the current status is of downloading various images. I know that Don's World Coin Gallery gave us permission in the past, but the link is not working anymore, and I think wikipedia policies have changed. I think I've also seen something about other sites giving us permission. I

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It has been brought to my attention that some postal orders have been declared legal tender during certain periods. Postal orders generally seem to be clearly exonumia. Legal tender is definitely numismatics. Generally, I've tried to avoid double-tagging anything. In this case, I can't see a better

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were created recently, did you know this? Turkmenistan, Tajikistan and Uzebekistan were created as nations in 1992. Pakistan was created in 1947. Afghanistan was created in 1747, and prior to 1747, from as far as the 10th or 11th century until today, the only correct word used was and is "Afghan".

3666:. Just because the standard catalog does it in some way, doesn't mean we have to. The catalog also splits into 2 volumes, before and after 1960. Does that mean we need to structure Knowledge (XXG) article like that too? Look at these news articles, the word dollar is not capitalized in a sentence. 2685:

I highly doubt that anyone would dislike Knowledge (XXG) using pictures of coins and notes (central banks would probably often even encourage it, because it gives better knowledge of what the money of a particular country looks like, helping tourists discovering forged money, and other things). I

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in the title, it's a bit cumbersome, unlikely to be applied consistently, and it suggested that there is a Clydesdale Bank (Somewhere else) in addition to the Scottish one! Country of origin is, of course, important and you're right to point this out, but it's an item of metadata that IMHO is best

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Out of these denominations, only 1, 2, 5 and 10 SEK exist as normal coins (with 2 SEK being legal tender but extremely rare, not having been minted for decates). You will never see any of the coins in circulation (because they are kept by collectors), but they are still legal tender and you won't

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feel free to use it. I added it to the navigation template as another watchlist. If anyone wanted to, they could also use it to identify pages that are at the wrong spot (to create a list of exceptions for the style guide, or to move pages -- I am not getting involved in page name issues anymore).

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I created a list of currencies in my userspace which doesn't include the countries where the currencies are used, and consistently follows our style guide, even when the pages don't (done with | so related changes will work). It also has links to the templates and disambig pages. It uses all local

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I'm working on the design of a piece of equipment that may be marketed to all 40 countries of "Europe", i.e. ANDORRA AUSTRIA AZERBAJZDAN BELARUS BELGIUM BULGARIA CROATIA CZECH REPUBLIC DENMARK ESTONIA FINLAND FRANCE GEORGIA GERMANY GREECE HUNGARY ICELAND IRELAND ITALY LATVIA LITHUANIA LUXEMBOURG

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I've done some updating to this page, and would like to see about making it a good article, or maybe even featured (although I don't know if there's any restriction on obscure topics). Anyway, I'd appreciate it if some of you would take a look and let me know what you think. I haven't updated the

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should only containt the spanish version, (Peseta,)" as it is the currency of the Spanish state, is only correct officially in the Spanish language, not in regional ones.)". However, I have restored the original multilingual version (peseta/pesseta/Pezeta), since in_local does not mean that the

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I've spent the last several weeks trying to understand image policy. It's still confusing to me, but I think I can answer your question. Images of 3D objects (like coins) are derivative works. That means that the coin itself has a copyright (owned by the gov't or bank which produces it -- some

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carrying Caesar's portrait struck in 44 BC. (This contradiction has been in place for months). It is stated that this was the first Roman coin to carry the portrait of a living person, and hence a source of controversy. Later in the article this is expressly denied. There was an inconclusive

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I believe the first article should go under the Guernsey pound, and the next should go under the Indian rupee or a seperate article. The name of the second article should be something like Princley states or Independant states of India currency, as some issues were to short or with little

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The standard coin table includes a lot of detailed information that I don't have access to (exact size and composition). Also, I don't have photo for everything. Is it better to have a line for each coin with some images missing? How should I format the table when all I know is basically

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Pros: Readers get to know what happened to both the coins and banknotes at a certain time in history w/o referencing two different places in the article. (This is more a renminbi specific structure. Both the central bank and the collectors structure their data, or mindset like this.)

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as part of a general expansion of this article. As to Ambliara, I'm pretty sure that the single note is the only numismatic issue from that state, at least since 1801 (which is when my coin catalogue starts). Consequently, any article is going to be short. Nonetheless, I again think

2823:(or maybe not anymore, I haven't been around much this last week). The problem is that it's often hard to tell what the copyright status of coins/banknotes is, so we have to assume fair use. Let me know if this isn't clear, or you have other questions -- it's all quite complicated! 2463:

I agree with a lot of what you're saying. There has been some progress on articles around banknote issuers for the UK countries, Crown dependencies and Overseas Territories, including some categorisation work which opens up a framework for building the kind of articles you desire:

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These definitions do not satisfactorily define the term in bold, nor do they satisfactorily define the article's subject. I propose that, in general, currency articles should begin with a definition of the currency name written exactly as it is in the article's title. Thus: "The

3391:. My point is not about having a separate article for Alderney's numismatics content. My point is where to place it and how to organize these articles. Again, currency first (e.g. Ambliaran paise or Ambliaran rupee), and only if things get large, fork off banknote and coins. -- 644:. I like it, but I don't know how to handle the crowns. There are so many alternate forms for Austro-Hungarian krone that it seemed like it might bother some people if I put them in, but I don't like to be inconsistent. Soviet ruble will have the same problem. Any thoughts? 2774:

gov'ts, like the US, release most coins into PD, others don't). The image of the coin (scan/photo) is also under copyright of whoever produced it. Therefore, coin images on wikipedia need 2 copyright tags. As an example, a US coin from world coin gallery would use

1508:. Like I said, I don't think we need permission for banknotes, but that's just based on a question I once asked on the copyright questions board. Probably safer to just get permission (which I think Ron Wise has given before, but I can't find anything about it). 1776:. Maybe it's because the increased scope scare away some editors. I honest don't care what format to use, as long as there is a consistent one. I just prefer numerals (50) over spelled out numbers (fifty). And there is no standing style guide for this either. -- 824:

A was thinking of starting a new article entitled 'Medalet' (i.e. a small medal) as there isn't one at the moment. The only thing that puts me off is the fact that it would be more like a dictionary entry and not really an encyclopædic article. Another thing,

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I have some coins which I would like to take pictures of and upload, but I can never take a good picture, as it always reflects etc, and I don't have a working scanner. Any advice on taking good coin photos with a digital camera would be most welcome.

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for the currency of Afghanistan. I had trouble to move the page to "Afghan afghani" so I left it at afghanistan afghani which is much better than afghanistani afghani. I my self am from Afghanistan and never do we citizens of Afghanistan use the word

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but as this is a crossover topic, would someone from this project look it over and at least add an appropriate Numismatic category and if possible add some links to it from elsewhere. If you can improve it in any way, by all means do that too. Thanks

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afghani" to "Afghanistan afghani". He's left a message of my talk page telling me the word "Afghanistani" should never be used, but I don't think it should be replaced with "Afghanistan". What do you guys think? I always thought if a country ends in

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I agree. I also think that these dab pages should transclude the template, rather than trying to maintain the list in multiple places. It's on my to do list, but I don't know when I'll get to it. Anyone else can feel free to handle it if they want.

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we have an entire forum dedicated to just coin photography. My suggestion would be to grab the beverage of your choice when you have about an hour or so, and sit and read. You will learn a lot, and see some great examples of photography. Enjoy!

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information. As with the noun thing, wouldn't a proper noun be the Indian Rupee, as India is a proper noun and rupee is a common noun, both words are also important as an identifier and nouns. We should consult and expert on the noun situation.

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I believe that separate articles should be created where a country has had more than one issuer. If the country concerned has an issuer that does not mention the country concerned in their name, please put the country's name in brackets, as in

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As for the copyrights, that I have no idea of. Commons has been deleting like crazy. So I think that would be an area of welcomed improvement, finding national copyright laws specific to currency, making templates and referencing them.

762:. This probably looks awkward, so maybe the list should be limited somehow. If it is too long, maybe the table could present only the English name and link to a separate page where the names in all of the other languages are listed. ( 2836:

Yet again copyright laws and common sense have nothing in common )). I also wonder how is "flatness" (2-D) defined in the law since no objects in the real world are really flat... And banknotes have all these bumps for blind etc

1701:. I noticed all of the Australian coins were moved recently, with the description that it had been decided on the talk page, but the moves didn't seem to match what was discussed. If there's support for this, I can add it to the 2906:

I would like therefore to suggest that banknote images uploaded (under fair use) to Knowledge (XXG) should be marked "Specimen" in some way UNLESS the image is officaly sourced such as from a recognised central banks website.

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as a basic template. There would be room for cross-references, for example, from the Charlton catalogues (in the case of the banknotes and coins from Canada) and the Coincraft catalogues (in the case of the coins of the

3106:. Not all coins have dimension or weight. Buy the "Standard Catalog of World Paper Money" and the "Standard Catalog of World Coins". Go to each individual central bank's website. Buy national currency catalogs from eBay. 3154:

I concur. However the current naming convention probably helps avoid ambiguity - what differentiates the current banknotes of Somaliland with the banknotes of a former currency of Somaliland (hypothetically speaking)?

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I think it's hard to make a general case. When there's a redenomination, I think it definitely belongs in a separate section, since it's basically creating a new currency (and in some cases we create a new article --

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you give it a date parameter for your edition of The Standard Catalog of World Coins, and it puts in a formatted reference. Only a few dates are supported so far, but feel free to update it (or ask me). There's also

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It's never the case for the Afghan government or official media to make any mistakes with their national name. The constitution of Afghanistan clearly states that the ONLY word to be used for all of its citizens is

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itself is PD, or you're including "critical commentary" in the article. Some people disagree with this requirement, but others are deleting images anyway. I'm not going to waste my time. Instead, I put links -- see

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We got another article on the front page, hip hip hor...ay? Funny thing is that on this projects main page it says:" Improve to GA: Dime (United States coin) " That articles on the front page, might wanna update it

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The presentation of banknote articles leaves a lot to be desired, especially in the cases of where a country has had more than one banknote issuer, or where an issuer issued banknotes for more than one country.

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I read the style guide to just be talking about currency articles, not specific coins. I would definitely like to get community support, but am not sure exactly how to go about that. I'll ask at the help desk.

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Hi, I'm slightly concerned that a few (a minority I might add) of the banknotes images on Knowledge (XXG) are not marked in a manner as to render them 'Specimen' and thus useless to potential counterfeiters.

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Swedish commemorative coins issued since 1873 remain legal tender, and commemorative coins have been issued in the values of 1 SEK, 2 SEK, 5 SEK, 10 SEK, 50 SEK, 100 SEK, 200 SEK, 1000 SEK and 2000 SEK. See

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My reason for the proposed rule is simple: Make a rule that makes sense and is always applicable, and then generate data from it. Avoid having some data first, and then making rules that refit those data.

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I don't see anything wrong with placing articles in relation to the numismatic history of the British Empire and Commonwealth into categories divided by geographical regions. For example, the article '

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While I don't mind giving reference of a standard catalog number, I do object making everything "as catalog". If you ask me, there is a better system than the catalog. It's all outlined at

4647:) is the currency of Guyana", but I don't like that much. ChoChoPK: what's your current view? Would you rather stick with the status quo? Anyone else? Matt 12:51, 20 December 2007 (UTC). 2255:

for general circulation and still being produced. So it will go up to 10 SEK and 2 GBP. If 2 SEK is no longer produced since 1971, then I believe it's not even qualified for "rarely". --

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Obviously it's not consistent right now, but it's an evolution - contributors are taking it to the first three levels, and to the fourth level if the depth of material can be written.

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How odd. Not blatant valdalism, obviously. But very strange. Just remember that "any material that is challenged and for which no source is provided may be removed by any editor". --

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standards. In particular, I hope you could provide some gravely needed sources, as well as help to make sure the material aspects of money are sufficiently covered by the article.

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is the way to go due to the greater ease with which such an article can be found. In general, any numismatic article ought to be linked to and from the relevant currency articles.

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is now substantially cleaned-up and it's almost ready for GA nomination. But several statements still need citations and I was not able to find sources for them. Please see the

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would be order. Its 1993 series is family, and so on. The natural order of things in Knowledge (XXG) is that you start with the general, and when it grows, we split. By going to

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somewhat like the way dates may appear depending on user preferences. I am not too technically-inclined, but just wondering? Hope to hear some responses from those in the know!--

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The Online Krause and Pick catalogues should be created here as a resource for collectors who are unable to afford to buy the full catalogues themselves. What do you think? - (

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has passed its GA nomination. The first step to bringing that article back to FA status has been accomplished. I may not get to it right away, but what I plan to do next is:

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Sounds good to me. Do we want to handle situations where there is a common English name which is not used locally? Czech crown comes to mind, but I know there are many others.

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is the currency of Guyana", to use that as an example, reads just fine to me: the Guyanese/Guyana repetition doesn't trouble me at all. However, an opening definition "The

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MACEDONIA MALTA MOLDOVA MOROCCO NETHERLANDS NORWAY POLAND PORTUGAL ROMANIA RUSSIA SERBIA & MONTENEGRO SLOVAKIA SLOVENIA SPAIN SWEDEN SWITZERLAND UKRAINE UNITED KINGDOM

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Use capitalization rule as if it is in the middle of a sentence in that language. For example, "franc français", not "Franc français", nor "franc Français". (existing rule)

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with this information. I'll link to that page from our project page right now. I'll also try to get the templates set up on commons at some point. Another great source is

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that did not result in the any changes to the article. I hope someone on this wikiproject has access to a reliable source that can sort this mess out! Thanks in advance.

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I believe very strongly that the naming convention that has been adopted for banknote and coin related articles suck. The common practice that is used by numismatists is

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for details and help find some sources. If sources are not found in a week or two, I'll be removing or modifying those statements so I can nominate the article for GA.

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English is always the first line. It's automatically included from the article title. If the list gets long, perhaps I can devise a collapsible thing like infobox of the

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I was looking for a barnstar relating to numismatics. I didn't find it so I created this barnstar for anyone who does great improvements to numismatic related content.

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I do remember about someone either putting thier image on a coin or note, or trying to to, but not sure when or who(I'm getting to old). Anyways good examples would be

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includes the country name. However, it is vital that the article title includes the country name for the sake of distinction and clarity. In a first line such as "The

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There's been an ongoing crackdown (like the Iraqi sugre) on fair use images... it kinda sucks and there's nothing anyone can do about it. 21:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

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see any £5 coins in circulation either. So the question is if 50 SEK, 100 SEK, 200 SEK, 1000 SEK and 2000 SEK shall be added to the list of rarely used coins for

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as well as some other online dictionaries spell it with a single 'l', yet there are more Google hits with a double 'l'. I am inclined to think that this must be a

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know I found out one time that scans of banknotes can't be copyrighted by the scanner. Anyone have more information (I'll summarize it on the main project page).

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The only examples I've seen of coin tables have only one series (I'm not sure what word to use for one set of designs). What do I do if there are multiple series'

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is the currency of Gibraltar", the first Gibraltar is redundant once the whole sentence is read. If we were to adopt your idea, I would be more inclined to use

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The naming conventions for coin and banknote related articles suck. For example, it should be 'Coins of Somaliland', not 'Coins of the Somaliland shilling'. - (

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Banknotes are simpler. Since they're 2D, 2D images of them are not considered derivative. So, the only copyright is the original owner (gov't/bank). I created

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No, the article title is not, in general, the correct full name. In most cases, the official name of the currency omits the country name. Only the unofficial

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There is an on-going effort of entering these data into Knowledge (XXG). But it's going slowly. And the editors are using pretty much just these resources. --

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I am well aware of the situation in Scotland and HK. I have quite a few HKD notes myself too. So the currency taxonomy goes like this (idea stolen from )

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ChoChoPK, I've sent you an email about this, please make sure it doesn't end up in your spam folder. Posting the contents here would not be appropriate.

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In addition, we all know that you think the naming convention "sucks". You said that repeatedly. You don't need to create a new thread over and over. --

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I have provided my reason above (the taxonomy argument). What is your argument beside "it sucks"? And what counter argument do you have against mine.

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I've noticed that in many currency articles the opening definition is written in what to me seems an odd style. To pick just a few random examples:

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And I disagree that denominations must be capitalized. They are not proper nouns. And units like meter and gram are not capitalized either. Even

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I've already left what I belive to be friendly comments on uploader talk pages on this, the wording being that of the {{specimenhint}} template.

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I think it would be helpful to have a naming guideline for coins. I'm sure it's been discussed before. I also like <coin name/description: -->

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My apology to the naming of these attributes. My original intention is "local" mean of that country. It doesn't mean provincial, county, or city.

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and similar pages used to be very useful lists of coins, and I'd prefer if the images could return. Is there really *no* way to do that?

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I don't like the naming convention, as it creates a lot of difficulties, especially when a country has had more than one banknote issuer.

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Cons: Historical context is scattered across the articles. If I want to know what happened around 1980, I have to reference three places.

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Because of the phrase "Numismatic terminology", the table is stretched beyond 70px, the width of the existing image. We have room for 140.

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Currently there is no explicit style guide for this. It's usually by redenomination, coin v.s note, and series. What am I talking about?

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image/value/description/dates issued (just dates that show on the coins). I've got the SCWC, so it's whatever I can get from there.

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is pretty close to when he started doing this. Another to-do is to create another one for SCWPM, and add more editions to them. --

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One line per spelling (overrides old rule of one line per language). If hypothetically Australia, Spain and Portugal all use the

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to help make this clear, since many websites claim that their images are copyright, even though this is not what the law says.

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Good job!! The next thing to do is to backfill the references added by Dove1950 since circa 3/27. At random poking, I believe

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The way it's evolving, the articles may start to fit into the following taxonomy, depending on the depth of material:

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Why is no-one saying to keep all of the Australian coins, I work on those articles, i hope the images dont get deleted

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Hay no Australian dollars, im so offended that there is the worthless Zimbabwe dollars, wawawa. Nice picture though.

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As I have said, currency units are not proper nouns. And units like meter and gram are not capitalized either. Even

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There are inconsistencies between redirects of the form "$ n" where "$ " is a currency symbol and "n" is a number.

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The discussions above this line are the discussions before I spammed multiple talk pages. Please discuss below. --

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All official languages of the actual users at the national level, plus all that appear on the physical currencies.

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I think we should just make a new category for all the World War II fiat money. In just Asia alone there's also

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This sounds like a one-time clean up. Perhaps a user subpage would be enough? If you create one, I will help. --

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This user has started editing many US coin articles. Some looks like vandalism. Others I am not so sure about.

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It's been quiet for a while. I'll consider this matter closed, and write the new rule into the style guide. --

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Of course Knowledge (XXG) isn't a numismatic catalogue, but the coin listings should use the style of the

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I share the same sentiment. I don't really want to talk to Betacommand. Let the images die or join to the

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I don't agree that separate articles should be created for each name change of issuing bank, for exmample

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has had 3 issuers that were empowered to issue banknotes by successive Irish governments since 1928 - the

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Same questions for banknotes, only I don't have a catalog, so I'm working basically from Ron Wise's site.

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does have an independent numismatic history, I see no problem putting this one and only one banknote in

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about it. So, it sounds like most fair use images in most of our articles are not going to be accepted.

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In an effort to make it easier to cite references, I've created some utility templates. So far, there's

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I whole heartedly agree. The names should be standardized. Are Malaysia, Oceania, and Burma omitted? --

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going to be moved to Australian Florin coin or Australian Florin to fit in with all the other coins;

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I found this coin some time ago but I never cared about it . Does anyone think it is an error coin?

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should be created, and the catalogue numbers from the Pick catalogues should also be used as well.

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Ok, if Afghan is the correct form, why do you keep moving the page to “Afghanistan afghani”? –

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Not so far as I know. If you look above, you'll see that I think we should have a category for

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ps. certain things in the message should be capitalised but this is just a talk page so meh!.

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and search for BetacommandBot. (you might want to show more days/changes than the default.) --

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I agree with Chochopk there, although I do think that applicable numismatic articles should

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all issued banknotes. As none of these issuers have 'Scotland' in their names, the articles

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I've added more codified rules about incomplete sovereignty and indefinite/definite noun. --

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which I think is similar. I haven't created the category or found the articles yet though.

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Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion/Log/2007 September 14#British Empire numismatics

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should be created. A similar situation applies to the banknotes that were issued by the

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I have brought this up again and again whenever people discuss this topic. For example,

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You're not suppose to follow your thoughts here. All the other countries that end with

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The added problem comes with fair use. Under the current rules (as explained to me by

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But I don't have the adequate references to validate all edits. Can someone help? --

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In some languages, indefinite/definite articles are part of the nouns, such as the

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This article should be reestablished as an independent article, with the articles

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Banknote articles for issuers that have issued banknotes for more than one country

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Commemorative banknotes with Arabic and French in sub-Saharan Africa after 1980?

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Genus - note/coin type (same legal status, same value, same time in circulation)

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Images of current banknotes should be marked specimen (unless officaly sourced)?

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Banknotes of the Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation (Straits Settlements)

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I've removed the remaining statements for which no sources were found, and have

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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I think it should be deleted. “Sole” was never the spelling of the currency. –

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Cons: In many currencies, updates of coins and banknotes are not synchronous

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I reverted. That is way to large, the image should be no bigger than 100px.

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coin or banknote sections yet, and have some questions about how to proceed.

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that is the way that it is done by the major numismatic cataloguers such as

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Unfortunately there's much more involved here than a paragraph answer. :-(

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Class - coins/notes of a currency system (notes of the Romanian leu (1952))

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is the currency of Guyana" looks wrong because it purports to be defining

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The Swiss franc page looks fine to me. All four are official languages. –

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in general are not well organized in my opinion, and could use some work.

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Recent addition of "banknotes of ..." and "postal orders of ..." articles

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I reckon that articles should be created in a similar way as above. The

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Shall I create a project subpage to do this, with a big table on it? --

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On a related note, I've been adding alternate forms to the templates at

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/List of world commemorative coins

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On the isle of Ireland, there has been two banknote issuers both named

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Pros: Suitable to people who only care about banknotes, or only coins.

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Is there an article that deals specifically with emergency currency? --

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Banknotes of the Provincial Bank of Ireland Limited (Northern Ireland)

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Banknotes of the Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation (Hong Kong)

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but I think we're better off as we are since it makes linking easier.

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being merged to create an article titled 'Coins of South Africa', as

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Btw, what do you think about my questions from the second paragraph?

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handled by categories - maybe by a more granular categorisation than

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I have in my collection. I want to upload it, as it is missing from

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If there's a better place to ask this question, please let me know!

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Yes I agree with you; that would seem the most logical thing to do.

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What about an arbitrary cap like "up to 2 alternative spellings"? --

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Please comment on this. If this is adopted, we need to re-evaluate

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start with a capital letter, just like in the Pick catalogues. - (

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article, with changes in corporate status handled by subheadings.

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If someone can find more appropriate and specific categories for

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while there is not even a currency article, it's out of order. --

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forms of a currency name (when I could figure them out). It's at

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I think it's fine the way it is. It just reduces redundancy. –

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Banknotes of the African Banking Corporation Limited (Rhodesia)

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I have an email inquiry about it. I also have permission from

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Can I replace the image on Template:Numismatics with this one ?

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does have an independent numismatic history, as it has issued

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Looking through the first few coin images, I see several from

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Knowledge (XXG) is not an online standard numismatic catalog

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Banknotes of the First Trust Bank Limited (Northern Ireland)

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It is better missing than to guess. It is ok to be missing.

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it will be very difficult to provide images in articles. (

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Banknotes of Allied Irish Banks Limited (Northern Ireland)

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The naming convention of banknote and coin articles suck.

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Banknotes of the Swakopmund Bookshop (South West Africa)

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Alright, I've requested a peer review for the article.

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Knowledge (XXG):Free image resources#banknotes and coins

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I think the size 230px would be perfect I tried it look.

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If there are users with completely sovereignty, such as

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As for capitalising denominations, this is done in the

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in 1969, banknotes were issued by a company called the

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What you're suggesting would fall into a new attribute

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What do you think? Matt 12:26, 8 December 2007 (UTC).

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Category:Former Banknote issuers of the United Kingdom

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Create stub articles for the red links in the article.

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Category:Currencies of the British Crown Dependencies

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Banknotes of the Black Sheep Company of Wales Limited

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has been creating many articles of this flavor (see

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for citing the Tables of Modern Monetary History at

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Banknotes of the Bank of Ireland (Northern Ireland)

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Category:Currencies of British Overseas Territories

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Banknotes of the Clydesdale Bank Limited (Scotland)

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Banknotes of the Bank of Ireland (Northern Ireland)

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The guideline for fair-use of currency and stamps (

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It's really hard to see so small. 234: 4384:203.211.79.187 (203-211-79-187.ue.woosh.co.nz) 3488:Phylum - currency system (Romanian leu (1952)) 3177:Banknotes of the British Linen Bank (Scotland) 2423:Banknotes of the British Linen Bank (Scotland) 1578: 267:Page move: Philippine piso to Philippiine peso 4378:202.180.72.84 (202-180-72-84.jetbuster.co.nz) 4375:202.180.98.82 (202-180-98-82.jetbuster.co.nz) 4372:124.197.16.95 (124-197-16-95.callplus.net.nz) 3664:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Numismatics/Style 3518:would be class, and hypothetically speaking, 328:be a redirect. There are multiple pesetas at 296:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Numismatics/Style 8: 4381:203.211.76.52 (203-211-76-52.ue.woosh.co.nz) 1838:Image:United States penny, obverse, 2002.jpg 1590:I am here to inform you that the article on 218:way to handle it. Anyone else have an idea? 18:Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Numismatics 4190:Thanks for the advice. I will have a look. 2450:Banknotes of the British Military Authority 4561:etc. Matt 03:24, 19 December 2007 (UTC). 4142:Is he a notable numismatist? Thank you. -- 3788:, and arguably copyright infringement. -- 3458:Commonwealth banknote-issuing institutions 3236:Banknotes of the Bank of Montreal (Quebec) 3212:Banknotes of the Bank of Ireland (Ireland) 2312:Banknotes of Ulster Bank Limited (Ireland) 919:Massive deletion of euro images on commons 4000:Poll at “list of circulating currencies” 3918:Banknotes of the Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe 3662:It has been an established guide line at 2323:Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation 2221:Rarely used coins -- commemorative coins? 1106: 892:There's a discussion over the naming of " 461:. Use indefinite singular form. Example: 3569:are the names of two separate entities. 2544:Standardising currency symbols redirects 3456:is another. You should see the article 2500:Banknotes of constituent country =: --> 2444:also issued banknotes, so the articles 2377:Banknotes of the Isle of Man Government 1774:Talk:Australian 10 cent coin#Discussion 4273:like Pakistani, Turkmenistani, etc. – 3944:French African numismatic before 1900? 3941:Banknotes with George V facing foward? 3786:is contrary to what Knowledge (XXG) is 3444:The numismatic naming convention sucks 2499:Banknotes of the pound sterling =: --> 1598:Good Article Collaboration of the week 479:{{es icon}} {{pt icon}}</small: --> 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 3830:Standard Catalog of World Paper Money 3715:Standard Catalog of World Paper Money 3485:Regnum - currency type (Romanian leu) 3465:Standard Catalog of World Paper Money 3257:article contradicts itself about the 2446:Banknotes of the British Armed Forces 1641:I don't get it. What are you saying? 158:Gallery of Canadian banknotes is bust 7: 4309:either, it uses the correct name as 4028:The only gallery which references it 3622:Coins of the Austro-Hungarian gulden 3075:Database of Coin and Note Dimensions 2743:of the issuer state they are in PD? 2392:Black Sheep Company of Wales Limited 2293:Currency Commission Irish Free State 2049:Which one do you think is better? -- 2012:Some weird hybrid of style 1 and 3. 388:edited the peseta wiki stating that 3617:Coins of the Austro-Hungarian krone 3583:What you're suggesting is to merge 3547:Coins of the South African Republic 3141:Coins of the South African Republic 2551:Following a discussion around £ at 2527:Further to your idea of adding the 2452:should also be created as well. - ( 556:List of official languages by state 294:I removed reference to ISO 4217 at 273:Talk:Philippine piso#Requested move 4269:than the adjective form ends with 4258:keeps moving the page "Afghanistan 4230:Gentlemen, I hereby submit to you 3264:Talk: Julius Caesar#Image on coins 3222:, which issued banknotes for both 1834:Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom 24: 4298:News site from Kabul, Afghanistan 4121:Light Dragon Dollars etc of China 3520:Banknotes of the HKBC (Hong Kong) 3516:Banknotes of the Hong Kong dollar 3047:List of world commemorative coins 2600:WP:AN#BetacommandBot and Fair use 1714:what's already on the style guide 872:User:Mom2jandk/List of currencies 228:New and wondering about something 4104: 3658:Do not capitalize currency units 3555:Coins of the South African pound 2522:Banknotes of the Clydesdale Bank 2341:should also be created as well. 902:Talk:Israeli lira#Requested move 478:dólar australiano <small: --> 29: 3826:Standard Catalog of World Coins 3808: 3800: 3792: 3711:Standard Catalog of World Coins 3628:into one (or two) big articles. 3559:Coins of the South African rand 3469:Standard Catalog of World Coins 2493:has been ordered and expanded. 2491:Banknotes of the pound sterling 2388:Chief Treasury of Wales Limited 1846:Image:1915-half-sov-reverse.JPG 1678:coin which i think it should. 1381:Image:Euro coins version II.png 4035:23:43, 23 September 2007 (UTC) 4022:I just scanned a picture of a 4013:05:15, 18 September 2007 (UTC) 3992:21:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC) 3966:07:23, 12 September 2007 (UTC) 3929:07:14, 12 September 2007 (UTC) 3587:Coins of the Australian dollar 3503:Species - note/coin variations 3202:has issued banknotes for both 2960:Automated currency conversion? 2933:Naming convention (not again~) 1958:1 new dinar = 1000 old dinara 1596:has just been selected as the 948:almost ready for GA nomination 162:Could somebody take a look at 1: 4693:16:55, 27 December 2007 (UTC) 4678:04:45, 21 December 2007 (UTC) 4610:13:30, 19 December 2007 (UTC) 4548:16:37, 17 December 2007 (UTC) 4479:16:37, 17 December 2007 (UTC) 4403:16:37, 17 December 2007 (UTC) 4334:03:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC) 4324:14:36, 22 November 2007 (UTC) 4278:23:48, 21 November 2007 (UTC) 4244:00:36, 18 November 2007 (UTC) 4214: 3896:08:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC) 3870:23:08, 6 September 2007 (UTC) 3858:22:50, 6 September 2007 (UTC) 3817:14:37, 6 September 2007 (UTC) 3772:07:27, 6 September 2007 (UTC) 3745:07:16, 6 September 2007 (UTC) 3704:06:49, 6 September 2007 (UTC) 3652:08:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC) 3607:Coins of the Hungarian forint 3592:Coins of the Australian pound 3577:22:50, 6 September 2007 (UTC) 3540:08:57, 4 September 2007 (UTC) 3476:07:37, 4 September 2007 (UTC) 3436:10:47, 4 September 2007 (UTC) 3405:07:48, 4 September 2007 (UTC) 3377:07:37, 4 September 2007 (UTC) 3353:04:35, 4 September 2007 (UTC) 3337:04:17, 4 September 2007 (UTC) 3321:03:30, 4 September 2007 (UTC) 3034:North American monetary union 2529:country of origin in brackets 1814:and could use some examples. 472:, then the infobox would have 213:Postal orders (numis or exon) 164:Gallery of Canadian banknotes 4457:00:42, 3 December 2007 (UTC) 4431:22:19, 2 December 2007 (UTC) 4352:18:51, 1 December 2007 (UTC) 4288:For Afghanistan we only use 4221:14:14, 31 October 2007 (UTC) 4195:06:26, 22 October 2007 (UTC) 4183:15:59, 21 October 2007 (UTC) 4162:10:20, 21 October 2007 (UTC) 4147:22:42, 15 October 2007 (UTC) 4131:02:21, 15 October 2007 (UTC) 4116:23:05, 13 October 2007 (UTC) 3612:Coins of the Hungarian pengő 3249:Help needed at Julius Caesar 3087:Does such a database exist? 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Found this: 2518:the switch from Ltd to Plc 2502:Banknotes of issuing bank 2442:British Military Authority 2333:, therefore, the articles 1718:50 cents (Australian coin) 1699:50 cents (Australian coin) 940:06:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC) 926:and you'll know. SIGH!! -- 914:05:44, 29 April 2007 (UTC) 880:02:34, 29 April 2007 (UTC) 859:05:15, 28 April 2007 (UTC) 838:15:46, 27 April 2007 (UTC) 794:21:07, 30 April 2007 (UTC) 767:21:00, 30 April 2007 (UTC) 748:04:10, 30 April 2007 (UTC) 729:04:10, 30 April 2007 (UTC) 710:04:00, 30 April 2007 (UTC) 689:02:14, 29 April 2007 (UTC) 672:13:53, 29 April 2007 (UTC) 649:01:51, 29 April 2007 (UTC) 631:13:44, 29 April 2007 (UTC) 605:. It's being discussed in 589:01:51, 29 April 2007 (UTC) 576:20:22, 28 April 2007 (UTC) 377:14:56, 27 April 2007 (UTC) 363:05:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC) 346:02:56, 27 April 2007 (UTC) 312:01:56, 27 April 2007 (UTC) 285:20:23, 25 April 2007 (UTC) 261:16:23, 22 April 2007 (UTC) 239:07:39, 22 April 2007 (UTC) 223:04:26, 20 April 2007 (UTC) 207:04:32, 17 April 2007 (UTC) 197:22:04, 16 April 2007 (UTC) 171:09:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC) 153:07:34, 10 April 2007 (UTC) 137:07:34, 10 April 2007 (UTC) 127:01:34, 26 March 2007 (UTC) 4048:What looks like vandalism 3460:for further information. 3017:03:00, 19 July 2007 (UTC) 2984:15:23, 15 July 2007 (UTC) 2955:09:21, 24 June 2007 (UTC) 2927:21:53, 29 June 2007 (UTC) 2915:11:49, 20 June 2007 (UTC) 2886:19:54, 21 June 2007 (UTC) 2872:15:20, 21 June 2007 (UTC) 2850:07:56, 21 June 2007 (UTC) 2828:13:20, 20 June 2007 (UTC) 2768:07:51, 20 June 2007 (UTC) 2753:07:51, 20 June 2007 (UTC) 2729:15:20, 17 June 2007 (UTC) 2705:22:43, 12 June 2007 (UTC) 2680:10:06, 12 June 2007 (UTC) 2656:08:58, 12 June 2007 (UTC) 2640:01:29, 12 June 2007 (UTC) 2621:22:21, 11 June 2007 (UTC) 2607:02:50, 11 June 2007 (UTC) 2588:05:52, 10 June 2007 (UTC) 2554:, I suggest copying what 2325:issued banknotes for the 1802:living people on currency 1712:Wouldn't that contradict 982:the article for GA status 545:Central African CFA franc 430:New proposed standard of 180:Anyone want to deal with 4532:User talk:Dove1950#Intro 4204:I started an article on 3756:http://banknotewiki.com/ 2970:14:39, 4 July 2007 (UTC) 2738:Hi! 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