Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Olympics

3266:: I'm partial to the idea of including the medals, as the IOC does include them on their online medal table, but to possibly add a note or call out in some way to mention that the medals weren't always officially included in rankings. If I could find a better history of where the official website had their medal tables, instead of always changing URLs, I'd be able to find when they were added into their tables. As mentioned above, it looks like Sports Reference / Olympedia did so in 2009, specifically at the beginning of it since the table updates sometimes between Dec 25, 2008, and Feb 24, 2009. 458: 2883: 1383: 4676: 4638: 4617: 4591: 4553: 3449:

edit-athon that has no end date, and users can sign up whenever they want. It's pretty free from responsibility except for the crucial part. From the list of WP:Olympics bio stubs, users who sign up can choose one - or a few more if they want - Olympians to "adopt". Just the one (or few), and hopefully enough users sign up to make even a small dent. "Adopting" being to research the person and improve the article in the first instance, and hopefully to keep a watch on them so the article gets maintained and updated.

329: 2192:, which shows his medals THREE times in the infobox and then once again further down, for a total of four times. Is that really necessary? Not that my personal opinion matters, but it seems excessive and like overkill. When looking at other athlete article, they don't seem to be shown four times. I was on PC, when i saw it, and i was 'what the hell' because it kept going and i kept scrolling. If it's justified, fair enough, i was just caught off-guard by it. 417: 4664: 4650: 4605: 4579: 4565: 376: 23: 1514:? It is not defined anywhere, nor would a reader normally be expected to know what that meant. (Most gymnastics medals? Most gold medals? Hiighest scores with gold-silver-bronze ranked 5-3-1? Men's and women's considered separately or all events combined? etc.) Unless that term can be defined in some reasonable way, I recommend deleting that column from the table. (The page is currently locked, so I can't edit it.) 77: 196: 126: 108: 2578: 54: 254: 248: 230:"The subject of pictures is the most painful one," wrote Knowledge (XXG) user Nimrodbr, who is active in the volunteer group WikiProject Olympics. At press time, some of the key athletes on the United States women's and men's gymnastics teams, including stars like Jordan Chiles and Brody Malone, do not yet have featured images on their respective Knowledge (XXG) pages. 136: 4809: 3525: 3495: 1073:

ends with which way to load the arrow. But the lead section, at the very bottom, says the Korean team won three out of the four gold medals contested. No mention of the Italian team also winning gold. And it's the South Korean team, so issues abound. I'd probably mention those team wins in the very first paragraph of the lead... maybe the second.

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would link the way they are used to. The problem with that is all the tennis project articles link cleanly without the need for an extra "detail" section, and the olympic project articles are all over the place through the years.... there doesn't seem to be a standard except for the whim of those demanding one for 2024.

1224:- replaced the "X discipline + detail" by moving link from "detail" to the discipline listed above it by wikilinking the discipline draw page. Details feels redundant. You can just wikilink the actual discipline instead of typing it out in blank text and then adding a link to it titled "details" below it using 1621:

should be listing the name of the alternate, and adding a +1 to the total athlete number. However, in the women's team foil event the alternate did not compete in any event. So do we list her name, even though she did not compete, but is listed on the results system as being a part of the team? Thoughts?

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And, no, I don't see it as a prerogative, i.e. 'right' or 'privilege' of any sort (I don't own any article on Knowledge (XXG), this is first and foremost for the users and readers visiting Knowledge (XXG)), but moreso as an improvement to tennis articles. And that's tennis only, where the majority of

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There's no reason not to include it and it should not have been removed to begin with. If the IOC has it included in the medal table, so should we. They routinely make relevant changes in their medal tables, such as when they're stripped or reallocated, so it's reasonable to assume if they wanted the

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Trying to get a consensus here on how to deal with fencing alternates? The results system for Paris 2024 lists all alternates. Should we be listing them in the totals on the nation articles? Here is where it gets messy, using Canada as an example. The men's sabre team had the alternate compete, so we

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where the '1st place' to '3rd place' gymnastics (or other sport) teams are given. The 'No. of events' column would be the only column needed to be added to that table format. This would replace the potentially ambiguous column header 'Best nation' with '1st place' (where the sorting is by gold medals

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A couple things here. When you look at a list of Olympic sports pert near for every one of the the Olympics is either the pinnacle of the sport or pretty much the only high point of their sport. And they are very team oriented. When I looked at the list of all these sports i cold see three that don't

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has, wherein templates/examples of table formats are listed to have some template/guideline to refer to avoid confusion in the future. Again, every wikiproject has its own mos styles. In the case of olympics events, I honestly don't know which takes precedence, but I feel maybe we can reach a middle

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We're not going to do this again, are we? Where you argue consistency for the sake of consistency without having any reason why it's an improvement over status quo. The project can't keep asking you why you think regimental consistency is needed only for you to not have an answer; we'll just have to

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Again for the 100th time, this is an OLYMPIC article not a tennis article. The guidelines of WP:OLYMPICS state: "Set up consistent structural and graphical layouts for displaying data on theme-specific articles." If we used sport specific criteria, we would have 32 different articles, which defeats

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Hi all, I come to you today with an idea for a way to basically address the issue of most (viable) Olympics bios being stubs. Being an Olympian is an ever-growing club and it can seem daunting where to even begin in improving the bios that are created every two years. My proposal would be to run an

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Hm, not sure on that one. My inclination would be to count those who compete, but that's obviously muddy when someone gets replaced who was set to compete but never did so. If the alternate steps in, the count shouldn't increase, I'd say. But some athletes do compete and during the competition, the

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It is something that is counted at the Games, meaning if all the gymnastics events had an overall medal table following Olympic standard (most golds over most medals), which nation comes out on top. It's probably unnecessary, but the discussion should probably be held at the article talkpage before

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I can see that it is difficult to combine East Germany and West Germany during the period when they both competed separately. Given that the legal state (with its international agreements) which survived Unification was West Germany (and this includes its committee membership at the IOC) then it is

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I agree. If it were me I'd probably have the medal summary at the top and the medal table right below it, either separate or in the same section. Then I would have the Event summary, then Qualification and format section, and finally the participating nations. But that's me where my knowledge there

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to believe they really just want remove a brief sentence that China had tied with USA on gold medals in lead as that info is unpleasant to them. In the past 5 Olympics from 2004 to 2020, Knowledge (XXG) have always consistently acknowledged at least the top 3 medal winning countries in lead. And I

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I'm really curious how tough it'd be to ask someone from the IOC about it. Feels like they want to recognize anything they've given a medal for, which to me honestly makes sense. I think we want to add a note or something to all the relevant pages, so we really should get a good source or two that

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First of all, it's "details", not "see details". Second, I truncated the links instead of saying discipline and then underneath "details" linking to the "discipline", I added a piped link linking to the same discipline. Plus, break lines cause unexpected pauses for screen reader users. And it's a

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I'm not sure it really matters if *we* consider Olympic sports to be the only relevant ones. The articles are about the Olympic medal tables, not medals for Olympic sports, and it's important to reflect what the IOC and the "official" table show and incorporate into their scope. That's good to be

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There is no wikpedia MOS that tells us the order. Just the Olympic essay. Every Olympic tennis article is the same way, and every Olympic page for years has been all over the place. Many have the Medalists and medal tables in separate sections entirely. For consistency, Tennis at the Olympics has

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That is a bold faced lie! It's not any type of article and does not belong to any project. Usually project overlap finds some compromise... perhaps there is some here. What if both the name and the added details link to the same place? It's not the best but readers coming from both walks of life

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cites that the 1924 Games had 17 sports included in the program, which would include: aquatics, athletics, boxing, cycling, equestrian, fencing, football, gymnastics, modern pentathlon, polo, rowing, rugby union, sailing, shooting, tennis, weightlifting, and wrestling, which would imply that art

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Hi - I have been adding the Olympics WP to a number of basketball players from the 2024 games. As I add the project I am not sure how to rate importance. To be safe, I have just been adding “low” importance, but not sure if some players should be higher (multiple gold medals, etc). Any guidance?

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Tennis isn't the only one and I've shown you this over and over.... even you so-called MOS shows this. Tennis Project also needs consistency and this article would be out of whack with all others. Olympic project doesn't rule supreme over everything else. And you are reverting more than just two

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I don't really care what practice is chosen, but it should be consistent across the board. Since the change not only affects the medal tables, but also the respective nations and the respective years, over 100 articles would have to be changed and should be then done systematically, otherwise a

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definitely need updating to accommodate for scrolling as an added benefit to shrink overflowing charts withing the screen. I would add it as an optional improvement not as a strict guideline to follow. Let's be honest, scrolling lists are not that prevalent but they do make an article with long

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I noticed there are two kinds of qualifications in these Olympics. One type is swimming in which the top X fastest of all the heats advance to the semis, and then it makes sense to list all the swimmers in the heats in one table ranked by the times. OTOH in running the qualifiers are the top X

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As per the standard it appears the Medal summary section has the medal table first followed by the medalists, with each event and a link titled "details". This is standardized across all sports from what I can see except Tennis. I think this needs also apply to tennis as well so all sports are

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which is better laid out with the winners at the top and the medal table at the very bottom. So their MOS has a huge difference in style. Per that, our Olympic tennis article is just fine. I think they were trying to make sure the tables looked similar, not the actual placement of the tables.

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Interesting sidenote, though I do think there's a difference. The rugby example you brought the green qualifies to k/o stage+RWC, while the yellow qualifies for RWC only. In the athletic both green shades qualify for the next stage, but via different methods. Regardless the main point is the

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Yea that works! What about the athlete numbers? Do you support adding alternate numbers (if they compete) to the total count? Also each fencing team event lists all the alternates, so I think we need to indicate who is an alternate on those pages, and which alternates competed.

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It makes absolutely no sense of splitting up Germany‘s medals into Germany (post Unification); West Germany and East Germany. There should be one Germany with all medals. After all do we split up say France into Third Republic, Forth Republic, Fifth Republic ? Makes no sense.

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It does defeat the purpose if we are building out sport specific guidelines. That's why I started this discussion. I did not state my opinion on the issue in my first message and would like consensus for this project, so it can be applied in other articles besides tennis.

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kicked off with tonight's opening ceremony. It would be great if we could keep the pages up to date in the same way we did during the Olympics. And let's try and turn all those red links for Paralympians blue, the sources are out there somewhere to write the stories of

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What are you smoking that tells you that? This is not any "article first!" This is a wikipedia article that multiple projects have an interest in. And Project Olympics with it's guidelines does not care about the table order. Only you do. So knock it off.

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I think we need to leave a notice at that talk page to attract more participants. I also believe the default shouldn't be "consensus to include them", but "consensus to exclude" instead. It's not reasonable of us to stray if they're accepted as official.

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Yeah, changing formatting and the like, being challenged, and not giving a reason besides "consistency". If something works, especially if it is something that has added functionality relating to its specific topic, there's no reason to change it.

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Since I have no experience in editing articles on equestrian sports, I need someone to help me with this to make it easier for those looking for information on this subject to access it. I would be grateful if this request could be met.

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To try and broker the peace, instead of arguing over who first edited against consensus, can we try for a productive discussion on which, if any, applicable MOS is best at presenting information to the readers for these articles?

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but the only thing in it is the medal table. It also has a separate medalist section and that section is "above" the medal summary section. So it does depend on the sport itself. Olympics are far down the line of importance for

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Hello! I've been following the articles about the results of the Olympic Games and I've seen that, so far, there's a lack of information about the results of these competitions (even though they've already been finalized).

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I mean, you did say it defeated the purpose of this project. And please remember that other editors are happy to find compromises and not enforce consistency for consistency’s sake, it doesn’t need to be all or nothing.

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fastest in each heat plus the next Y fastest across all heats. In this case it is odd to me that all the runners in the heats are in one table, instead of being in separate tables for each heat (as was done for example

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from overflowing is beneficial to both desktop and mobile users as it makes the headers sticky, which improves navigability when scrolling horizontally/vertically. The content isn't hidden just contained. The charts in

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The IOC itself considers the records of the teams (NOC) from West Germany (FRG) and East Germany (GDR) in the period 1968–1988 to be separate teams and therefore not part of the records of team Germany (GER).

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think we should continue the same for this year. Making a sudden unusual break in patterns now all to finally avoid mentioning that china tied with usa on golds in lead, doesn't seem like NPOV editing to me.

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talks about them being included from some point on. Going to take some sleuthing, but I do think it's an important thing to reflect for the medal tables. We want to get things as right as possible after all.

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Yea, for fencing its weird, because the alternate is allowed to come in and compete (and not replace anyone). If the alternate competes AND does not replace anyone, I think they should be added to the total.

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do it! To be honest, I failed to see the benefits of swapping around, whether it is changing from format A to format B for "consistency", or reverting format B to format A for "individual projects interest".

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single page should follow the same exact, down to a tee, medal summary order or layout that you so adamantly preach? Each sport's project guidelines has their own layout. How can you not understand that?

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I didn't realise this was a mass-edit sort of thing, but I saw this in a handful of articles doing some other template maintenance and removed it; I do not think the image is either necessary or helpful.

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I have nothing against the decision, but it should not only be changed for the articles in the medal tables, but also for the nation pages. Here is a small overview of which articles would be affected:

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I don't think we need to force project-wide consistency as long as the tennis articles have internal consistency. It's a minor formatting point and not one that I think has any distinct pros/cons.

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What should the appropriate order be? Should the medal table come first, then the list of medalists or vice versa? From what I can see for 2024 the medal table comes first and then the medalists.

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is even more ridiculous... I gave up on that article in trying to find out who won. It's a mess! So those Olympic articles have big issues and the order of tennis winners isn't out of the norm.

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competitions weren't part of the official programme. I'd say the IOC is quite inconsistent with listing information, so I'd recommend for the art competitions to have a separate table for now.

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Also, none of those Olympic Sports articles are the same. Nothing is more important for a reader than "who won the event." That should be front page top of the line news. Yet articles such as

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That's your prerogative. If your change goes against all other WP:OLYMPIC articles and makes sense then it should be applied across all articles, and if it doesn't then none should have it .

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According to the same logic - we would have to change Great Britain before Ireland gained independence. After all Ireland and GB are now competing against each other now but not before 1921.

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I would place the list of the medalists first and then the medal table for ease of access to the casual reader/visitor of the page to see the list of winners FIRST and then everything else.

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I agree with this "Nothing is more important for a reader than "who won the event." The medalists are buried towards the bottom. Maybe a discussion on how we organize these pages is needed.

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As for adding the numbers in 2024, I don't believe that's correct. I was looking at archives yesterday and I got stuck at 2016, which had showed the medals included if I remember correctly.

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MOS style is flawed as multiple articles across different sports follow their own order of section layout i.e. MOS style, different from the one listed at the olympics project guidelines.

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Please stop lying. Please go look at the edit history of the article and provide difs of what you are saying. In June all the articles were changed by "Qwerty284651" without consensus.

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And I see you have been reverted by multiple wikipedia editors for 6+ reverts on the issue... 4x in the last 24 hours. That's a big deal so I'd keep it cool on the reverts for awhile.

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If you want it applied across all sports, regular and disabled (paralympics), and that would include all years and summer/winter, then you would probably need an RFC or something at

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Since it relates to an IOC terminology, I would like to invite editors here to discuss a piped link proposal for the Chinese Taipei template. Details on the talk page. Thank you.

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Agreed. I'm not a huge fan of both qualification types being basically the same shade of green in that Athletics example (I much prefer two-colour systems as seen in places like

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For the infobox, do we list both events as being for women or mixed? Since the intent was for men to compete, I suggest listing it as mixed. However, no men eventually competed.

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the purpose of this project. I am only talking about the table here, which universally across ALL articles are formatted the same, until YOU decided to change them. And again,

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separation of table per heat and seems there is a consensus for that so far. Say we'll give it another day and if there is no opposition, we can work on changing the pages? --

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Remember also that that is not Knowledge (XXG) MOS, that is Wikiproject Olympics MOS which is no different that Wikiproject Tennis MOS. And you mentioned their MOS example of

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bury the winners. And hey, that sport also has a separate medal table and events section. Those event winners should be at the very top, way above schedule and participation.

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to do so. You have failed repeatedly to show where there is consensus on the medalists table, and you both have failed to provide a reference to this so called consensus.

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I feel as though the medal table + medalists should be grouped together or in sections next to one another. The medal table seems out of place in the 2004 example.

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Again, just saying an MOS exists when there’s 1. other guidelines and 2. pushback against your application of MOS, is not an argument for force-applying it.

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So there needs to be consistency. For 2024 ALL sports have the medal table first. Why should tennis be different, keeping in mind the goal for this project?

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is probably a mistake in my perception. They were taken into account much earlier. This also convinces me that the IOC is taking a consistent stance here.

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I've reverted about 3/4 of their edits, which were all +39s only adding the flag. There are still a couple dozen edits that will need to be checked.

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However, the general problem with the IOC is that the medals in art competitions as well as for the feats in alpinism and aeronautics are considered

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The cleanest way of dealing with this is for the results tables to list those who competed, with accompanying prose listing alternates who did not.

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seems to be at an impasse, so I'm escalating this to the project level. In what order, and for what reason, should the two nations be listed?

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That is why I am drawing attention to this inconsistency and it should then be systematically changed. This also affects some templates (e.g.

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If you read the goal of this Wikiproject "Set up consistent structural and graphical layouts for displaying data on theme-specific articles."

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with you being in the minority, or at the most no change. One editor suggested you have tried this tact before... not sure what he meant.

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and other editors changed it back to longstanding consensus after YOU started changing things. Goodness. Wasnt one ANI enough for you?

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An editor is disputing me that for this year's Paris Olympics, that we should not mention second place country in lead. I have reason

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best to have Germany = Germany since 1992+West Germany + Unified Teams + Weimar Republic (incl Nazi Germany) + pre WWI German Empire.

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I have started a discussion about the infobox use in Olympics and other sporting event articles, please join in the discussion at

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This Olympian competes in a few hours .. in case someone may be interested in reviewing and perhaps creating her draft article --

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my editing happens. Other sports, as much as I would love to focus on, are just not in my interest nor do I have the time for.

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There was consensus in the tennis wikiproject until you started changing every single olympic page in 2024 to fit your idea of

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A better table format to summarise Olympic gymnastics (or any other multi-event sport) would be to use the format of the table

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For the first diff, I never intended to make the table scrollable and its window smaller. Rather I initially intended to

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Understood! However I see that a user already 'fixed' it, if you can call it that haha. Thanks for the reply, Primefac!

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article, the medal table and the art competitions medals are explicitly separated with a note, which is also an option.

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alternate steps in. In that case, I'd say the count goes up. But that's just my thoughts; what would other editors do?

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Sounds good. Regarding the colour, as they advance to the same round it's no big deal for me. Q and q does it for me.

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Recent articles may be biased towards the Russian point of view, which may undermine their reliability: for example,

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Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Sports § Using an infobox directly in the body and if we should make a new template

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Right this is an Olympic event first, not a tennis event. So WP:OLYMPICS shall have priority. That's common sense.

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There may be more instances of pro-Russian slant that I may have missed, but I am trying to address my habit of

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I disagree. All Olympic articles should have the same consistency. We shouldn't be formatting one differently.

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As far as I am aware, there is no consensus for this change, so bringing it to the talk page of this project.

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Where did I say something was wrong with it? I brought it here for consensus to apply (or not apply) across

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So all the link functionality is still there and there’s improved accessibility? Looks like a good option.

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in their database, but does so now. Therefore, the decision lies in whether Knowledge (XXG) only considers

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articles. Its a pretty big change (all articles will be effected), so consensus should be reached first.

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Hello, just sharing a heads-up. I don't know if this is something that has been agreed upon or not, but

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at Olympis" articles content. So I'm asking your opinion. I personally am not a big fan of such edits.

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Those republics weren't competing against each other at the same time like East and West Germany were.

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is a new article that needs to be assessed. Could someone from this WikiProject take a look at it? --

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Apologies in advance if this was already discussed (in that case please point me to the discussion).

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but thought it'd be best to get consensus first here. Or maybe someone here could do it ... you get

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If the majority and consensus advocates the inclusion of all medals, such inconsistencies as in the

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to reflect the style of winners listed in other tennis articles and then transcluded said tables to

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changed the medalists table format in June for the three above (and I suspect the rest). There was

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Sure, but that's not what the discussion is about. If you read what I wrote, I am referring to the

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Somekind of documentation would be great too. One of the few templates not including instructions.

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Oh, sure, colour should never be the only designation of a fact, but oddly enough in this case the

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Set up consistent structural and graphical layouts for displaying data on theme-specific articles.

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Here you can discuss with other users about general questions and issues involving the project.

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I've nominated a DYK hook about the mixed relay qualification for the 2024 Summer Olympics at

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Actually you and the other editor are the only ones supporting your POV. As mentioned above:

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As does the Tennis Project, and Olympic Project examples does not practice what you preach.

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Here you can follow the project guidelines to help you create, expand, and format articles.

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for the 2024 and future olympic tennis events for consistency across olympic tennis events.

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Here you can ask the project membership to perform a review on any of its tagged articles.

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Knowledge (XXG):Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 437 § insidethegames.biz (2nd review)

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Template:Did you know nominations/2024 World Athletics Relays – Mixed 4 × 400 metres relay

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in all Olympic articles. The users refer to IOC sources as the latest medal tables (e.g.

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being run right now, if we were to do this it should probably be included on that list.

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Are you saying this has happened before with them... arbitrarily changing articles like

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For what it's worth, it looks like it's been included in Olympedia / Sports-reference

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Replace empty columns with a "..." columm; add footnote when event wasn't held/played.

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uses the events first then the medal. And what about the Olympic essay own example at

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removed the dividing rows between the men's, women's and mixed doubles disciplines -

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65 articles for the individual Olympics (year) of the NOC, where they won a medal:

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attendance, which included countries that Russia consider "unfriendly". See also:

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Wow... that's a lot. I am not skilled enough for AWB so maybe someone can help?

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fit that mold. Tennis, Boxing, and Golf. None of those use the regular format.

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aware that they consider them official medals but not official Olympic sports.

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yes, it was changed here but not in the other years or in the main article on

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MOS, which you were then reverted by multiple editors. Only you. One editor.

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I don't know exactly what you mean. Links/diffs please as Kingsif suggested?

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articles with caution, and cross-check with other sources. The new owners of

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Create and improve articles whose content has connection with the Olympics.

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Talk:Canada Soccer drone spying scandal § Should this be titled "Dronegate"

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I changed the format of the list of tennis olympic medalists listed in

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Yes you are right, I just checked the webarchives and the thing about

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I put one on their talk page that Olympic Rings should not be added.

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of table splitting, which was done before me. Somehow, someone else

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Golden rule of Project Management: If there is no improvement, just

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common to see this in other WP:OLYMPIC articles. Can be removed imo.

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Please try to get consensus here to change for all Olympic articles

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I know many of you are aware but just a little reminder that the

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Hopefully more input can help us form a clear(er) consensus. —

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in sum 103 articles (maybe a few more that I didn't consider)

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I browsed Knowledge (XXG) as usual, when i saw the article of

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If you disagree, we can create an article guidelines page for

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One of the guides linked in the MOS guide for this project is

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I've thrown together documentation based on the talk pages.

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Do you think this idea would a. work, b. get enough users?

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or all medals awarded in their medal tables and statistics.

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Equestrian at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Individual jumping

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I am writing to advise that editors should approach recent

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etc.), where NOCs have won medals at the Art competitions.

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has two variations, with the 2024 pages all following the

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that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.

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defined and uses weight class names. See page 24 of the

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that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.

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that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.

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by restricting the search to the article namespace ...

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Probably not, might be worth starting a discussion at

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cleaner look in mobile view. What's wrong with that?

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Especially for a team sport like basketball. Thanks.

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Medal summary sections on sport at x Olympics format.

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users like me as they have no captions or alt text.

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If the entry is as a mixed event, then it is mixed.

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you have failed to provide a reference to consensus

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