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4406:! The format is horrible and the editors currently controlling it have chosen to completely leave out all Japanese release information! The lead is also too short, strange prose sections added to the end of the list, and the sectioning is relatively randomly decided and unnecessary. Some of the plot summaries are overly long, and rather than editing the plots down to deal with the "size" issue they have employed an highly inappropriate and hideous transclusion system that violates Knowledge guidelines regarding subarticles. Everything is completely unsourced as well. I've left a note on the page about this, but posting here as well to see if anyone want to tackle the massive redo this needs? 3939:(finished tonight even). However, another editor is calling into question whether the novels, CDs, etc should even be mentioned at all and that the media section should only cover the "major media" such as the anime, manga, movies, and video games. He specifically says he feels the novels are not notable enough for mention because they "have no more link to the original author than do the lines spoken by actors in the anime" and are just repeats of the manga story. I personally disagree, and our MoS specifically notes mentioning novels/light novels, CDs, drama CDs, etc. He has asked for outside opinions as I reverted his removal of the novel list. To join the discussion, head to 758:
everyone can agree on the fact that illegally downloading the game (and providing a link to it on Wiki) is a clear violation of copyright. What people cannot agree on, however, is if an unofficial translation of the work in question does violate copyright. I bring this up because in the case of fansubs and fandubs and manga scanlations, the base material is included with the translation, since you can't have a fansub or fandub without the anime content, and you can't scanlate manga without the manga in question. However, in the case of game translations, you can provide the translation without ever giving up where to get the game via downloading.
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that follow). If we did this, then the article could be titled Ojamajo Doremi, with a small section briefly describing each season of the show, and then another section that has a list of the various dubs and brief information about them. Of course other things like production, reception, etc would also be included. I feel that the focus should use the Japanese names of the characters, places, magical items, etc, and this includes the title. And then perhaps make a seperate article that lists each episode, and then maybe a seperate article for a character list. What do you guys think?
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there are less game translations out there compared to anime/manga shouldn't determine notability; the content itself and the groups doing the translation should be notable in their own right. Plus, if you start mentioning illegal translations, you'll invariably get users who want to include more detailed information, like which group did it, and when it came out, plus all the users who would then want to provide a link to the content. So, in order to save us all that time and effort of endless reverts, we just shouldn't even mention the content
6055:, reordering sections by release date (as best I could), merging in additional info from the various subarticles on volume counts and release dates, and linking out to individual chapter and episode lists. I didn't add or remove any individual components, since I'm not familiar enough with the series to judge what merits a dedicated infobox module, what should be listed in an "Other" module, and what should be ignored altogether. I'll take a look at the template in a minute, I should be able to have it cleaned up in five. — 191:
because I could give a toss about policy; what's wrong is wrong, and this is not the place for that kind of information. If you want to know about illegal translations, find that information on a fansite. Keep it off Knowledge. Unless there is major media coverage of a legal battle between fan translators and people who hold the rights to the translated product, there is simply no justification for covering it here, regardless of how we bend the semantics of the policy and guidelines to fit arguments on either side.
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just a drastic change. Who would approve such a large change and where do I go to post this idea? I don't want to do all this work only to have it reverted or refused. But yeah, Magical DoReMi, and all of the individual seasons would end up being merged into Ojamajo Doremi, with focus on the Japanese version, and dub mentions where appropriate (Such as dub English names of episodes on the episode list, dub English names of characters, on the character list, etc). Can you point me in the right direction?
3491:. I'd say the main thing are those awkward tildes which can't even be reproduced on most English-language keyboards since they use the small tilde ~, while the Japanese use the much larger one. The reason I bring it up here, instead of at either of these article talk pages is the matter of getting people to know about it, and also to come to a certain consensus related to articles under this project's scope that use symbols not easily produced on keyboards. I know that there's already the guideline 354:: "Knowingly directing others to material that violates copyright may be considered contributory infringement." That third party website links to the websites committing copyright infringement. Just because you're not directly linking to the first party doesn't mean you're not trying to undermine this restriction by linking through a third. And before you even start: a link is a link even if it's used as a reference or an external link, so the guideline does not just apply to ELs.-- 380:. This has been brought up before (here, even, I think, but definitely at the VG project), and most people agreed that as long as we don't tell people where to find the actual infringement, linking to a site that links to it doesn't matter. If you take the logic to the extreme, we could never have an EL unless we clicked EVERY link on THOSE sites, and then every link on the linked sites, etc. Where does it end? Not to mention, never linking to Google or any other search engine... 5283:(the later still being an issue of debate). For most series, we will have an episode list, which includes individual summaries of episodes between 100-300 words in length. Long enough to cover the major plot points and resolution, but not scene-by-scene detail. The same with summaries of manga chapters. For the over all plot, it should not be excessively long, generally 300-700 words depending on the length of the series and complexity of the plot. 31: 3877:. The current name would seem to stem from our MoS listing manga, anime, etc as disambiguation names, and Bleach's first work being the manga series. However, some feel it should be disambiguated with series instead, as they feel manga gives the impression there is a separate anime article. I feel more folks should be involved in the discussion, because the outcome could potentially bring the need for a change in our MoS's naming section. 424:
policies so there's no going around it. Such should be kept in mind. While most of the concentration is centered around whethor or not sources meet RS/V requirements or relevance and context, policies regarding copyright must be taken into account first. While you could argue the former all day long, if the source fails policies relating to copyright then the whole discussion is a waste of time.
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Doremi articles doesn't exactly help. Should I base information on the English dub (Since this is the English Knowledge) or the original? Should I use Ojamajo Doremi (original Japanese title) as the title, or Magical Doremi (international title for dubs, including English dub). Who would be coming here more often, fans of the dub, or fans of the original? Ugh, this is making my head spin.
2912:. The mechanicals, largely, though that usually involves a lot of rewriting -- cleaning up enough to detag the articles, so that other editors can work on building up the content. The character merges will be tricky, yes -- especially if you do them en-mass. As part of getting "local" buy-in, it really helps lead into them slowly -- but we can strategize on a talk page once we get one. — 5241:
defeating the purpose, I feel. I realize development, reception, etc are all important factors that nee[[d to be mentioned, but why downplay the plot and show contents? And if you can't tell, I'm unfamiliar with standard Knowledge procedures when it comes to editing. Most of my past edits have been met with ill response, which is also why I'm somewhat reluctant to do this.
1936:, that has been proposed for deletion or renaming twice and has been kept both times. The problem is that currently it's very unpopulated, making it seem like there are very few Japanese comics artists with articles. I know there's a "See also" to the Manga artists category, but, as the community has decided twice, that's not the same. So, should I populate it? 236:
somehow made it more well known than other visual novels. Censorship has nothing to do with it. It is nothing that needs to be mentioned as it is not a legitimate version and I think agree with Doceirias's arguments as well as my earlier stance. We have an article on the Great Brink's Robbery, but we don't link off the instructions on how to replicate it.
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project we really need to come to a set conclusion here. By my view, mentioning the fan-translation is completely unnecessary and nothing that should be done here, anymore than fansubs, fandubs, and fanscanlations are mentioned in anime and manga articles. It sets a bad precedence, and the main sources for these translations are sites that couldn't pass
4993: 163:, when he said: "It is not the most reliable source, yet it is obvious that if the steps were followed, one could verify the facts in a very easy manner. So it might not be most reliable, but at least it is verifiable." (He then goes on to talk about notability, which isn't at issue here, for a game that managed to spawn both anime and manga.) 1538:, with a clean format, sources, some real world context where available and no excessively minor characters (such as the one-episoders) or trivia stuff (like height, weight, blood type and all that). For general character format, its usually the character name as a header, the description as a paragraph underneath. For voices, use 3962:, and the analogy you reference had to do with discussing the novels at the cost of discussing other aspects of the franchise at the parent article. I do not take issue with the redirection of the media article. It is the level (and spottiness) of relatively inconsequential detail added to the main article that I take issue with. 2588:. Unfortunately, this is extremely hard to do with manga artists, particular those who aren't proliferate or well followed by English speaking/reading fans. Many authors barely have any coverage in reliable sources in Japan, so finding ones we can use is made double difficult. Tanabe was a relatively new author when she wrote 174:. And to me, that makes sense. Fan translation of anime and manga are so prevalent that nearly all notable series are translated. But translations of games are rare enough that not mentioning the existence of a translation would mean the article was missing important information that puts the games in proper context. — 5271:. We downplay the plot and show contents, because they are not the encyclopedic aspects of the series. We give a summary of the plot and enough character information to aid in basic understanding, while not providing excessive and minute plot details as it violates various Knowledge guidelines and policies, including 1590:, from about 2003 onwards, has stacks of stuff on yaoi, including getting into the subgenres and nitty gritty which at present, the WP article doesn't cover. Unfortunately, I don't have access to this journal, so I'm hoping that someone else does, and can assist me in accessing the relevant articles. Thanks. - 5990:
That alone doesn't mean they all should be split. Popularity isn't a reason, significant difference is. If its popular, great, sourced reception information on any of the variants goes in the main article's reception area. Splitting should be done if there is a significant difference in the variants,
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If they expand to a significant length with extensive third party sourcing, yeah, they can be split. But popularity (in Japan - the series flopped in the West) alone does not justify splitting. Clear distinctions between them sometimes does - the new Giant Robo manga got split off the article for the
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and its sub-articles could really use some help. The infoboxes need fixing. Someone made a very bad attempt at a media list break out a few days ago, which has been undone. The main article is suffering from a lot of "terminology" and all the sequels/prequels/movies were given their own articles when
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That's fairly close to what I suggested on the page, though with the sections more in line with the MoS: i.e a Plot section, a characters section (that links off to a List of characters), production, reception, media (with sections for anime, manga, movies, etc as applicable). For the episode list, a
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The plot and show contents don't need to be downplayed exactly, they should just be succinctly described. The best way to balance it in my experience is to remember that you're writing for a reader that hasn't seen the show and isn't a fan. This means that, while you have to describe the plot to give
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Third-party sources are for focusing on the series real world aspects. The plot and show contents should be a relatively small part of the series article. The majority of the article should be focusing on available information on aspects such as production, reception, broadcast and distribution, etc.
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I might be interested in joining such a taskforce, though I couldn't guarantee any certain amount of my time being spent on it. Aside from that, though, I seem to enjoy cleaning up infoboxes where necessary, and it's not too unusual for me to end up being sucked into improving the article in general.
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As for the others, the notability comes with the same level that any translation has for notability, ie it's in English and thefore that makes it playable to the majority of the audience that reads English wikipedia, whereas other games not translated would not meet that notability criteria since not
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mention that if you like but don't want to buy, you can go download cracks for it to avoid that whole issue? Does any software article mention any unauthorized hacks, cracks, etc? Do any of our television series articles or anime series articles have anything about going to download fansubs or buying
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policy. More importantly, fan-translations, or unoffical translations, of material w/o the original content included is not clearly illegal. Even fansubs are arguably, though much less so, not quite illegal since none of them have been tested in court. Assuming something is legal because the industry
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It's a fairly minor series in English. Which is just splitting hairs, since the point was that there are unlikely to be enough sources in English to generate articles worth splitting off. Obviously, using sources from another language is an option, but splitting the articles off before those sources
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Yeah, that's about more or less what I was thinking. I could start working on such an article for it on my user page, and after I get the bulk finished, I could propose it to replace the current Ojamajo/Magical Doremi articles. However I don't know the proper channels all of this must go through for
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If it hadn't come from 20 or more different IPs, and at the same time and with each article hit in a seemingly coordinated effort in that as soon as their hit was reverted someone else redid, maybe. Or maybe since it only seems to have been my merges, tagging etc to be hit, maybe its just one of the
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I would like to see an addition to one of our related MOS pages advising against the use of these marks, too. Not only do we currently have titles using some form of hyphen or tilde, we have titles that use either one or two. These pages should be moved to a more standard form of writing secondary
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The list basically indicates articles that need someone familiar with the anime and manga MOS to help get an article into decent shape in terms of format and layout. It can also include articles where it is felt than someone very familiar with anime and manga articles from the project may be able to
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At the moment, not really though we are having some discussions on the topic at the MOS talk page. Most minor character lists are in fairly bad shape, and there is still some debate on whether they are necessary at all or if there should only be a list of major characters. I can't think of any minor
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is an obviously notable subject, and so we should give it a thorough treatment. That includes mentioning the existence of a translation, since the existence of such a translation is rare. (I don't know if there's a policy-based reason not to mention fansubs, apart from the fact that we don't mention
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which then links to sites that fail them when your intent is to do such. Additionally, directories are just categorized lists of links. Unless the subject of the material is about directories or the directory itself, or additional information provided by the directory is what is being used, there is
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A fun thing is, as I recall, the copyright holder also holds the right of translation, which means translating the said copyrighted item and distributing it without permission is also a copyright violation. However, about is the translated words are the copyright by the copyright violator or not, I
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Yes, but like Melodia said, the site in question does not containing any infringing content, only links to pages that contain links to possibly (depending on the legality of patches, which is under dispute) infringing content. (And note that the bulk of the links are to officially translated games.)
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I'd argue Tsukihime is more well known because of the anime series. You can't argue either case, though, in Knowledge without a reliable source, and a discussion of the subject does not need to say there is a fan-translation to discuss the game itself. It is extremely unlikely that a fan-translation
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Thank you very much for all of the advice and assistance. I have posted the proposal in both the Ojamajo Doremi and Magical Doremi discussion pages. Even just looking at them, some of my friends think that the articles do in fact need a lot of work, even some who aren't fans of the show. I'll begin
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I suppose I will post my idea on the talk pages of both the Ojamajo Doremi and the Magical Doremi articles. If most people agree on my idea, I will start work on the large Ojamajo Doremi article and merge each season into it. What do you think I should do if people disagree, or no one even replies?
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And no, third party sources are not considered a better source for plot information than the series canon. However, articles on fiction are not supposed to be merely plot information, and should also contain as much real world information from reliable third party sources as possible in addition to
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What can I use for sources? I can use the show of course, but what about a fansub of the show? I help work on the only existing English fansub of this show, and we do a very good job with it. Can I cite our fansubs as sources, or would I have to stick with the original episodes? My own knowledge of
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I've been considering doing an overhaul of the Ojamajo Doremi article and all articles related to it (Such as Sharp, Naisho, Motto, etc) as I feel they are not written well. However, there are very few English sources I can use, as the show was not very popular in the US, yet it was very popular in
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article notes that the anime only covers through volume 9 of the manga), but not a blow by blow of which chapter to which episode or visa versa. In the overall plot summary, you can also have a brief, preferable source section giving an overview of changes from between the primary and the secondary
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regarding linking to regularly asked questions (and the answers) in our archives, where the anime/manga MOS link should be located in the MOS infobox that appears to the right side of MOS pages, and whether our MOS is a "summary style" of the main MOS or more of a related topic. Why not join in the
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Additionally, it would seem one editor, a minor, is feeling a little ownership here, so third opinions on both the merge, and attempts to clean up the article(s), would be appreciated. And, of course, help with cleaning up the sub-articles would be great. I've done some quick and dirty on the main,
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translations of works that are in violation of copyright? Is say, Mirror Moon was sued by Type-Moon for what they've been doing, then I'd say it'd be reasonable to mention that, but as it stands, game translations are in no way more notable than fansubs, fandubs, or manga scanlations. The fact that
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bootlegs just because it hasn't been released in English yet? That was my point. Also, notice that both of those examples you give are well sourced from a variety of RELIABLE, independant sources, not the distributors/creators nor to any directory providing a bunch of similar downloads, hacks, etc.
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I see no consensus in that discussion at all. I maintain that patches are a copyright violation, enforced or not, and can't be mentioned on Knowledge. Attempting to allow them on the grounds that the policies do not specifically rule them out is pretty much the definition of Wikilawyering; ignoring
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Well that really depends. There's tons of articles on things that aren't "legitamate", as noted above, but 3rd party sources have called attention to them. We should treat this in the same way. Video game translations often DO get attention from news sites (mostly a passing mention, but are there),
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While the links have been helpful some, I'm still not really sure where I should begin. There's just so much information to take in, and I have no idea where I should start or what I really should try to include. The fact that they still havn't agreed on whether or not to merge the Ojamajo/Magical
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Per our MOS, no, they do not have equal priority. The video was the first version of the series. As such, if it is licensed in English, we use the video game's English names. If not, we use the original names from the game. For other adaptations/versions, we include a note in the prose to indicate
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page? That should probably be where the discussion takes place to ensure the editors of those articles are fully aware of it, and any decision made, particular since quite a few Inuyasha pages would need to be updated. I've gone ahead and started a discussion there, so the comments can be with the
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I could see it being adopted as a task force/work group, with appropriate changes and renames. As its only a single manga series with 19 volumes, it certainly doesn't need a full blown project. I'm not sure it really needs a work group either, though. Maybe a temporary task force if people want to
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says that a directory with some level of peer review can't be used. I checked up and down both lists and found nothing excluding such sites. If I missed it, I'd like someone to point out exactly where this is the case, because frankly I think everyone is just assuming directories no matter if they
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Which I removed due to the inconclusiveness of the RS and the inconclusiveness here on whether fan-translations should even be mentioned. Another previously uninvolved editor keeps putting it back, and as undoing again would be 3RR, it is now staying there unless someone else removes. I think as a
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Well, my idea is to merge each individual season into one article that covers the entire series. Each season only differs in the finer details (Such as characters, specific plot points, etc), while the overall plot remains the same. (A group of girls trying to become witches and the misadventures
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What's an MoS? Can you link me to it? And thank you for clearing that up about citing an episode. I'm still not really sure why the plot and show contents need to be a small part of the article. I realize that the article isn't supposed to be a detailed summary of the show, but that seems kind of
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for splitting into an episode list and a chapter list. A split could be done pretty easy, and I think with some relatively quick formatting fixes, lead rewriting, and addition of references, both new lists could be brought to FL status in a fairly short time as the summaries seem like they should
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unsourced, catch all page was not a "well organized" list and was not in keeping with our MoS and Knowledge standards in general. Also, feel free to check my merging. I think I got all merged that should be merged, not including the theme list because its covered in the episode lists and the huge
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regarding the layout of series articles and whether reception should be above or below the media information. There is also an on-going discussion on dealing with adding content to the MOS regarding setting and theme, on tweaking the media information section, and on the creation of subpages for
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I think it would be an excellent idea, and a very useful task force. I'd also be interesting in joining, since I'm already unofficially doing the same, though without the one a week pledge :) It could also be a nice way to avoid some duplication of work if the task force had the list of clean ups
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It is a policy, but info about these patches doesn't necessarily violate it; it depends on what kind of info we're talking about. Info about the existence of the patches and the reasons for fans to make such patches (in relation to the market) is appropriate and can by included (provided that the
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As a professional translator, I'm vehemently opposed to giving any kind of legitimacy to unauthorized translations. Video games may not be as big a problem as translations for anime, manga, or light novels, but I don't see that they should be exempt, either. I stayed out of the earlier discussion
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Unfortunately, that's the crux of the argument on the name, and there hasn't been nearly enough input on it yet. Only part of the series was licensed and named Magical Doremi, so its hard to determine if it should be used, or if Ojamajo Doremi should be used as it is the name for the bulk of the
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While Anime News Network is like a Wiki, where anyone who registers can edit, how can we confirm that anything on their is accurate? Generally, they seem to give the users or readers the correct information but we cannot be sure for everything. That is also one reason the Internet Mobie Database
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It can become fairly systematic as in we can improve all aspects of the topic. We already have all the relevant layouts and designs for main articles, chapter lists, episode lists, and so on, and as such, the process is well defined. Such a task force would be good simply for setting targets. We
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Just to re-iterate, 3rd party sources must meet requirements. Because a source is 3rd party does not equate to being able to use it. In terms of copyrights, infringement and/or violations to the Wiki policy are absolutely not allowed. That policy, and all relating directly to it, trump any other
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page it is listed as 1996 starting date (airing in Japan on that date), but I always thought it started in 1986. It used to say 1986 on the page (I think) but now it has been changed. Anime News Network artcile on the show is very confuseing and does not clear up the matter. I am unsure of the
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Anime News Network is one of, if not the, largest English anime news site there is. It is very notable and has industry support, as can be seen by industry executives being interviewed by them, the above noted requests to speak at the Tokyo International Anime Fair, etc. Their reviews have been
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In that case, one such game, (Beloved) Kingdom was released by the translator because he could not get through the tangeled Japanese legal system surrounding these games. The fact it was released free, the translation patch, with that note would qualify as notability, plus some mention on Peach
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Significant in terms of content, not when it was released or it having a different author. Often times if a series has a manga and a light novel version, they have different authors. Doesn't make them significant enough to have different articles. Is a completely different story with no shared
4359:(edit conflict)No, it should not be done, especially not in the episode/chapter lists. It is general OR and unnecessary detail, even if it is "obvious." In the main article, when discussing the media, you can note that the anime was based on the manga, or on part of the manga (for example, the 2183:
Since the video game is the primary work, they should be listed by the video game names. From what I'm reading in the article, the game changes the name to English ones as well? If so, the headers should have only the English names, then start the character description with something like "Max
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I see no consensus in the discussion at all either, only some questioning and commentary before it was forgotten. I also agree, that patches are a violation of copyright and should not be mentioned on Knowledge. We don't provide links and discussion on hacking Windows or MS Office or any other
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That is true, however at least in this case, the game translation has gotten no attention from any news site. The source being used is a game fan translation directory. It would be one thing if it actually had extensive coverage in reliable sources, but it doesn't. The only coverage is in such
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Anyone else seeing a lot of problems with random IPs deprodding, detagging for mege, reverseing merges, and straight vandalism, in our anime articles with the same article being hit multiple times? There going to get sick of seeing my name in RPP at this rate. I've already had to have 6 or 7
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Just a quick question if I may - is it usual practice, when writing plot summaries of a TV series based on a manga, to note which chapters of the manga relate to the episode (if any)? If so, is there an example of this being done, or, if not, is it something that could (and perhaps should) be
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I think the main reason for opposition is that these translators are merely providing the translation of the work, not the work itself. Insani (Wind, Planetarian, narcissu) even gives links so that people can go and buy the games, and don't provide links for illegal downloads of them. I think
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When you cite a fansubbed episode of an anime as a source, the fact that it is fansubbed is considered immaterial. You simply cite the Japanese episode, and the fansub is considered as a translation of a foreign language source, rather than as an actual source. In other words, if a piece of
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It would be better to do your editing in the main article rather than working in your sandbox and doing a major change all at once. This allows other editors to see your changes as they happen and weigh in on them easier. I've found that if you do a super major change, you may find someone
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Giant Robo anime, largely because they share only a writer and style, but not continuity. Not being familiar with Saint Seiya, there may well be a few books that can justify a split based on that kind of logic, but it should probably be discussed on the Saint Seiya talk page before doing.
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It comes down to matter of intent. YouTube does have infringing videos, but not intentionally and removes them when found. This site, like any fansub, et al site is deliberately and purposeful linking to illegal content for the express purpose of encouraging and endorsing its acquisition.
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isn't policy, but guideline. Because of the grey nature of the subject matter, most of them appeared to consider posting information on patches to be fine as long as verifiable third-party sites could be used. That is where things go hung up. I posted a site that meets everything under
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disagreeing with part of it and undoing all of it. So instead, work a bit a time. For example, in one edit, fix the infobox. In the next, work on section ordering and names per the MOS. Etc etc. Either way you decide to go, please make sure you are working within the guidelines of the
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don't have to improve them to GA/FA/FL class, but we certainly get get the ball moving on that. The only sticking point we're going to encounter is the inevitable character merging that we'll be doing, and wherein we can to get around local editors to get things cleaned up (the
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as themes in fictional works, including the ones listed above. I know little about these shows, so I was wondering if someone from this project could help with proofreading the entries, reducing the in-universe style of writing, and adding sourcing if any is available. Much
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Actually, I see now you also started the discussion on the Tessaiga talk page. As noted above, though, because of the implications and a bigger issue at hand, I've left a note on Tessaiga's page to take the discussion to Inuyasha where I've gone ahead and put your reasonings.
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These instances seem to be the exception to the rule, where essentially only a small component of a franchise is licensed outside of Japan. There are some cases that what is licensed may not be representative of the whole. Perhaps, the MOS should be expanded to address this?
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We're talking about the anime here, not the video game. I'd also like to say that I've just looked at the pages for Pokemon and Digimon, and in both cases, the English names are included before the Japanese names. We either need to be consistant, or do some major re-editing.
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Agreed that getting to GA+ would be more than what the taskforce should aim for -- I'm thinking a group dedicated to wikifying, getting layouts to conform to MOS, swotting up appropriate leads and infoboxen, possibly hunting down a minimal number of references to support
1950:. When you use a noun as an adjective, you always use the singular form of the noun instead of the plural form. But this category should be populated by Japanese comics artists who are not manga artist. In other words, Japanese-Americans who work in the comic industry. -- 3708:
I believe the Anime News Network staff check for any vandalisms.. they probably don't even check if the users are contributing the correct information. Well I guess they are notable enough for their own article.. I never knew they were that famous, even over seas.
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There are discussions about merging them back into a single article as well, as there are no significant differences in the various seasons. To answer your question, no, you can not site your fansubs as a source, nor should any links to them be added. It violates
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on its best day. Pytom argues that it is relevant to the article, "necessary for full coverage", and that the extraordinary claims exception covers the use of an otherwise non-reliable source (Pytom, feel free to correct if I'm mis-summarized your view). Thoughts
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At the time, it seemed the idea was that when she wrote a second series, she could get a page - but frankly, I think writing an award winning series that had been adapted into an anime and translated in English is more than enough justification for notability.
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Whatever media we're dealing with is irrelevant. The same style is used. The only discrepancies would be in which name to use, which is often decided by whichever is the more commonly known among English speakers. For an illustration, see the first sentence of
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See our MoS for an idea of what a proper article should have. When citing an episode, you are citing the episode itself, not any specific piece of dialog, so you aren't giving any quotes. As such, you are citing the episode, not a specific translation of it.
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I'm not sure I really understand. Why would a third party source be more reliable than the show itself? Also, what if we're citing dialogue from the show, but since obviously the show is Japanese, how would one go about doing that if we can't use the fansub?
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That makes no sense. People are going to miss information with that sort of structure. Regardless of which names came first, they should all have EQUAL priority. Saying "So-and-so" (also known as "Fill-In-The-Blank") is not going to work well, if you ask me.
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It would be better to do the work step by step in one of the articles, after first weighing in on the existing discussions to ensure consensus follows (which I think it does, but best to give some more time). Then, if agreed, I'd do the the work in the main
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legitimizes bank robbery. It does, however, answer the question of why Tsukihime is more well known than other visual novels of similar vintage in the English-speaking world. A discussion of the subject would be simply incomplete without mentioning that. —
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This sounds interesting... I don't have any prodded/merge articles on my watchlist (at least, none that have been hit) so I can't provide insight into it. Are there any postings on 4Chan about this? And what are some of the articles that are getting hit?
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during these days but I cant find ant information related with his creation. I know that there are many databooks of the series that may contain it, but they dont sell them in my country. Could anybody that have it tell me to add the information and the
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articles protected to stop it. One of the vandalisms implied that its a coordinated disruption effort by 4Chan users, and I'm curious as to what all they are hitting (and feeling a little paranoid that so many articles on my watchlist are getting hit).
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tinkering with a copy of the article on my userpage in my own time so that way if after a week this gets approved (or at least not rejected ;)) I can begin updating the articles right away. Thanks again, and I'll keep you in mind for future advice.
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If there is, I haven't seen anything. I suspect it's on one of the larger boards like /a/ or /v/, though /b/ is also a possibility. Smaller boards like /jp/ could also be hit, but then I haven't been on 4chan in a few days, and I only browse /a/ and
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is confusing so I thought it started as a video game, but instead it started as a card game. I'm still inclined to say that whatever names are used in the card game comes first, as it has also been released in English and is still the primary work.
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I think it's a carryover from before founding WikiProjects was an organized process. But no, 5 articles is small enough that the project isn't going to be particularly useful for collaboration. So the page can probably be deleted or historicized.
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quoted in promotional materials for some series. Only the encyclopedia entries are editable/correctable by users, however submitted changes to have editorial over sight so the use of those pages is acceptable when other sources can not be found.
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So a while ago, I made a personal pledge to remove one title a week from the cleanup list. I was doing pretty good with it, too, until I got sucked into a task that's taken two months so far and there's more to do (but, really, the state of the
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I agree, the articles should be renamed, and that MOS also should clarify this. I think II should remain II in the rename for the same reason. We should be avoiding special symbols n the article name that are not easily typeable on a standard
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I looked at summaries of the first two volumes of the manga, which seems to indicate that at least the main characters from the original series are in the manga as well, which would make it a list for both media. Past that, I have no idea.
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Doceirias, Saint Seiya didn't really flopped in the West. It might have flopped in the U.S. (I don't really know), but it was very popular in Latin America and some European countries. Just see how many articles there are about it on the
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Good point. The template makes it seem like it has many more, I forgot it really is just five (you'd think I've have remembered from having to do all the renames LOL). I'd support outright deletion then. A subgroup isn't really needed.
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blah blah..." and make sure the lead notes that the names were all changed in the game with appropriate sourcing. If the names were kept to the original in the games, then use the Japanese name for the lead, a regular nihongo of Ryuta
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Per our MoS, unless they are significantly different , they do not need separate articles at all. From what I saw, they are all related in terms of plot and character, so I see no need for each component to have a separate article.
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Is there a good page out there to model minor character pages after? I'm thinking of improving the Ranma ½ ones, but it's difficult to decide how to do so when there seems to be no consistent structure to the ones I've looked at.
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After watching an episode of the show, a calendar (clearly shown in one of the episodes) says the year is 1988. That would make sense if the show started in 1986, but be rather off if it started in 1996. Although I sapose the show
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Wow.. who never knew Beyblade manga existed? It was serialized on Coro Coro Comics for more than a year or two. I guess anime is more notable with the characters and maybe a section just for manga-only characters in the list.
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source. There should always be other sources if possible. They are generally reliable, especially for more mainstream titles. It's the more obscure ones which they tend to get wrong (if they cover them at all).
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Is an anime actually being made? It seems to only be rumor, so far. But I'd be fine with historical tagging for now. Even with the anime, though, that's just one more article for the episode list (if needed) :P
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info is referenced with reliable third-party sources). On the other hand, details about the patches themselves (how they're made, how they work, etc) does violate the policy, and so shouldn't be included.
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and start working. :) I have all of them in my watch list, I believe, so while I don't have time to do much work with them myself right now, I'll keep and eye out and can offer help/guideance as needed.
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once more and recheck your statement regarding that. It is policy and one that we have to hold with utmost regard. On your points about the legality of fansubs and related materials, I suggest reading
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which could use project discussion. Multiple times its been mentioned that Bleach, and a few others, had bad media list split outs that needed to be merged back and fixed. This was recently done with
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You're actually agreeing with me. I was saying, if a 3rd party source mentions it, we can use that 3rd party as the linking source. That's the general policy for including content, so far as I know.
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Japanese is minimal, so my job with the fansub is just quality control of the script. This would make citing dialogue and conversations between the characters difficult without using the fansub.
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is considered a reliable source, but I also found some mistakes in it (like it saying Medabots was based on a 1977 computer game rather than 1997 :P). That doesn't invalidate it as a reference.
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Do you mean we shouldn't be using the Encyclopedia portion, or any of it? The news items, including user submitted, are all verified by editors before being published, which certainly meets the
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I'm just not entirely sure where I should begin. I've requested someone to translate the Japanese article into English, but failing that, I'd like to overhaul these articles to improve them.
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That was for the non-eroge version, wasn't it? And I don't think the use of an official subtitle should determine the overall title for a work if the original work didn't use that subtitle.--
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all you want, some things are just wrong for Knowledge. Unauthorized translations are one of them. There are plenty of other resources that can provide that information; keep it there.
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Actually, I'd say delete. From the text, the school only appears briefly in the anime and not at all in the manga. Its completely unsourced and the characters are all extremely minor.
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They do have oversight on the user-submitted portion, but I've seen enough mistakes (particularly with romanized episode titles) that I don't think we should be using it to source.
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Eh? The currently running Saint Seiya spinoff series and movies are separate manga and films, they generally should have their own articles unless they're at a microstub level. --
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Um, I don't. Please read the thread in the Bleach talk page. Someone else said it should be moved, several of us disagreed but I brought it up here to ensure adequate discussion.
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I think a straight delete would work here. Doesn't seem like anything but a list of "monsters of the week" kinda thing, which isn't necessary at all. Don't see anything mergable.
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whereas I'd wager anime ones don't because they are so common place. But if they do...well, that's what could be used as the source for mentioning. Try and remember that WP has a
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source that states the show began in 1996, but I believe it is inncorrect. We need another source but where can we get one? I have looked but I can't seem to find any good ones.
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if you'd like to join in the discussion. Both article have tons of issues, but the merge discussion should probably also be taken care of since its been tagged since February.
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for an example of the latter, where the first work, the manga, kept the Japanese names in the English release while 4Kids renamed everyone in their dubbed version of the anime.
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I stand corrected after re-reading the article. As such, it really needs to be deleted as Knowledge is not a collector's list nor a game guide and that falls squarely in both
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char lists that have made it to FL status. For general guidelines, though, its similar to a regular character list just with less content. Try to make sure its compliant with
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covering the plot of the work. This would include things like the reception and development of the series. Not always easy to find, but it's great if it can be located. (See
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and either have at the top below the header with a break after, or at the end of the paragraph. The first sentence of the descriptions should include the character name with
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context, if you go into high amounts of detail you're likely to just confuse them. For some good examples of how to structure an article, look at the articles listed under
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The discussing of the novel is not being done at the cost of discussing anything else. No one is saying you can't discuss something else be cause the novels are mentioned.
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has now been tagged to have the individual season articles also merged into it. So there are now three discussion/issues that need taking up: article name - should be it
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starting by using {{subst:Task force}}, then put in the info, participants, create a to-do, etc. When we're ready to go, add a link to the main page and...um...go *grin*
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were made. So bottom line is that site is still disputed, but if we can find an independent site that has at least some kind of peer review or good rep, we can site them.
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Its not really a manga, its an MIC, and outside the scope of the project. It's also just some guy's personally written manga with no notability. Tagging for deletion.
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I generally remove the both tilde in favor of a colon to replace the first. This is the most common method to split a title into a title and a subtitle in English. ···
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It's nothing even remotely close to a "Monsters of the week" thing. I'm not saying anything for or against it, but it isn't that. In fact, that page was originally IN
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sigh* Is/was this work group/WikiProject ever needed? Given the very small number of articles (5) on the series, I can't see any justification for it's existence. --
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Where does it end? I don't think copyright paranoia about transitive links should prevent us from including important verifiable information in the encyclopedia. —
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A MoS is a Manual of Style. Its a guideline to aid in determining what should (and often shouldn't) be in an article. For anime and manga articles, our MoS is at
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I went ahead and cut down Mireille to just (2) and Kirika to (3). I'll add commentary some commentaries. Overall, the articles themselves need a lot of cleanup.
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Agreed that the articles need some serious clean up. I also know little about the series, though, besides the name and already have a full plate at the moment.
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Probably not for weeks...if you check my user page, you'll see my to-do list is beyond insane. If input is needed in discussions, though, just drop me a note.
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Princess's, now Jast USA's board that confirms this to an extent possible without (i suppose) violating an NDA. The problem with that game is reliable sources.
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per the MoS, along with all instances of Cerberus changed to Keroberos within the CCS articles. Input there from the project would be greatly appreciated. :)
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seems to credit the manga as the original work, which would be reinforced by the manga being published over a year before the beginning of the anime series (
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sign on to do some much needed clean up. Otherwise, I'd say let it get deleted, or marked historical since no one seems to want to delete projects anymore.
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If you look around Knowledge, you'll see that's actually the exception, and few franchises really warrant separate pages for each respective component.
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and to list *all* of the related articles that I could find, but the whole thing is still way too sloppy to really streamline the template's links. =P —
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stance on things, and keeping stuff out because you might think it somehow would hurt business to call attention to it is an antithasis to that policy.
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have no idea. My pov here is that it does not make the original company sell less copies, since it is almost free promotion for the original source.
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about the large number of lists of the series characters. Everybody is invited to give their opinion and finally decide to merge the lists. Cheers.--
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LOL, you and me both. It usually starts so small, "oh, missing an infobox, or somethings off" and next thing I know, I've been cleaning for hours :P
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no other reason to use a directory as a source. You should use the specific site provided by the directory as your source, not the directory itself.
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to Rumbling Hearts already? Google shows Knowledge is now the ONLY place that show up with this title, its just being clung to by some fanboys.
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take place in the 80's (the past) and have been started in the 90's, but there is not much information on that as well. I started a conversation
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All right, the template's been updated too. I'll keep an eye on the status of the merge and further update the infobox and template as needed. —
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information comes from Magical DoReMi episode 25, then you just cite "Magical DoReMi episode 25", not "the fansub of Magical DoReMi episode 25".
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Few franchises, yes. Saint Seiya being among the select. It's not quite Dragon Ball, but it's still one of the most popular franchises ever.
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requirements. Contributions to the Encyclopedia portion also require sourcing and they have a published bibliography for much of their data:
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Anyone want to weigh in here? So far, only one person has commented and they oppose as they feel it reduplicates effort (no idea why...).
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Not quite. It gets removed once the work is done, usually by the person who tagged it or if someone else confirms it is in okay shape. :)
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vandalism...) Article merges are never exactly popular with the readers though, you're probably just getting the normal flak for that. --
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does not exclude sites that are reference sites if they are self pushied with some type of peer overview or already has a high integrity.
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When it no longer needs project attention, it will be removed. Right now it needs lots, starting with some much needed MOS application.
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media list, even though all verifiable and relevant information was merged into the main article. Anyone else want to help explain why
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That's irrelevant. If their staff check the submissions before they are published on the site, which they do, then the site meets the
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Thanks! I started to last night and got a headache trying to sort out all the mess. :P At least it is a much more reasonable size now.
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I had no idea there was a separate manga article. Can someone here start cleaning up these pages? I don't know much of anything about
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Is this a list of anime-only characters or is the intro incorrect? If the latter, could someone with knowledge on the subject fix it?
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they really don't need them. I've done a huge merge tag, but some project input would be good here (and help with the clean up). The
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many would play them. I mean, what is so notable about half the games listed there besides being officially translated into English?
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As AnmaFinotera says. It's not so much a guideline as a way that makes building consensus easier. I sometimes suspect the value of
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Someone said to me that it might be best if WP:MANGA adopted this inactive WikiProject. Any other thoughts or should this be done?
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I suppose technically it is, but again Ⅱ cannot be as easily typed in as II can. It's the same problem as with the long tildes.--
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What if we don't want the lists merged? Just pointing out that your invitation to join in is very biased toward one outcome. ···
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I've noticed, trust me, but its best to weight in there too, so should someone disagree later, its "on record" so to speak. :)
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This seems like a daunting task, but I strongly feel that this anime needs better articles, I just don't know where to begin.
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needs some SERIOUS work to be given a more standard format. Right now, it takes up nearly half my screen in horizontal space.
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But whatever, they can be split out again if necessary once I've dredged up the information for their distinct notability. --
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1. "Tetsusaiga" is used in all official English-language versions published by VIZ Media in the US, UK, and Canada... and...
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wrote the laws to suit them doesn't make it legal. Content of the original game with a patch is clearly different matter.
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It shouldn't be done. At most, you can note which volumes the anime adapts in the lead, but it's otherwise unnecessary.
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Those articles? That's not 4chan. Or at least not any sort of coordinated effort by their anime board. (Now if it were
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should not be and are not used in biography articles.. Also, how notable is Anime News Network actually, by the way? --
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came to the consensus that the patches do not violate anything on wikipedia for illegal content, and even if they do,
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but already have a full plate to try to take care of it all. If anyone is good with templates, the series template
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article, I'd say it is correct. The manga seems to be barely acknowledged at all by whoever is editing those pages.
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forms. Beyond that, sourced information on the adapting of one to the other is nice in the production section.
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directories, the distributing hackers site, and in some fanboards, hence it not needing to be included at all.
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on and off from the sources listed in the "Further reading" section, and it's come to my attention that the
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wanting our infoboxes to be redesigned to look like the VG game one. Please swing by and offer your views.
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cleanup nightmare anyone?). That said, it would be better doing something about that rather than nothing.
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The Japanese article suggests the manga is merely a merchandising tie in, and it started out as an anime.
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is there any mention that "if you don't want to pay for it, you can get free codes for it online"? Does
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Knowledge talk:WikiProject Anime and manga/Archive 28#Magical DoReMi/Ojamajo Doremi Name and Merges
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I understand your opinions. Recently, i ask Fox816 for helps and he/she told me that i can keep
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was serialized in, and to see if the magazine mentions why it was stopped? Any help appreciated!
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Here's another requested move. I propose that this is moved from Tessaiga to Tetsusaiga because:
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to discuss if we want to merge the lists of not. Everybody is invited to give their opinion. So?
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Are you talking about the manga or the anime? The manga first appeared in the May 1994 issue of
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single List of episodes, that maybe breaks out into multiple season lists such as is done with
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is another example. There are 7 lists of characters and 12 articles about alchemy, cities, etc.
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And no problem, everyone was new at one point. If you have questions, we're happy to help. --
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Oh, OK. I thought an article would have been removed from the list once an expert is found.
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I agree. With exception that the root source of the material is the game - not the anime.
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Alright, we for the most part call characters by dub names as the card game uses them too:
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it gets covered by some reliable third-party source (magazine, TV news, newspaper, etc).--
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is a reliable source was inconclusive. Today, Pytom added this statement to the article:
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Don't worry, we can spend as long as we need to figuring things out and still make the
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I expanded and referenced it a bit. I think it may be ready to move live, and there are
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As a side note, maybe we need a dedicated section for rename discussions for awhile :P
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is so popular. I would like to add it to the articles depending how their merge end.--
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The talk page on the Ojamajo Doremi series article doesn't seem very active, though.
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same jerks who vandalizes my userpage with random IPs every other month or so. *sigh*
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before being separated to its own page. You'd be best off talking to the seperator.
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Agreed on the articles. There was an earlier post about it, that's now archived at
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to see about splitting the InuYasha list into season pages in a similar fashion to
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commonplace things. We certainly mention the existence of fan-translated games.) —
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volumes place in the top ten shonen sales in Japan every time a new one comes out.
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Can someone place the appropiate tags on this article, and maybe fix it up a bit?
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I could have sworn "Kimi ga Nozomu Eien" was being used by 586,000 different sites
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I can't figured out how to navigate 4Chan so not sure. There is also a thread at
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table seems irrelevant. The discussion is at the earlier one linked above and at
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Yes, there really is a manga. Viz licensed it and released it. It had 14 volumes
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I agree. It's like erachima said, if there's sources, they can always be split.
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Here's a big project that seriously needs done as soon as possible, a rescue of
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If you want to move the page, I suggest you also create a full move request via
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Lists of episodes/chapters/characters. Why not come over and off your thoughts?
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doesn't make any reference of this, save for an "incomplete" infobox. Thoughts?
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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and I don't know if she's done anything since (though she did win an award for
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I want to make it separate again, but what should I do? Where should I look?
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Done...I've removed the project template from the articles and put it up for
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have independent review and oversight, are wrong and WP isn't about assuming.
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A few fans who barely do any editing are complaining about the merge of the
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is unnecessary? It looks like in-universe AfD bait to me, and merging it to
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Wow, that's quite a mess... I went ahead and cleaned up the infobox on the
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OK. I was just wondering cuz I'm new to this WikiProject. BTW, I'm doing a
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Knowledge:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Coordinated Distruption?
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is just the English name for the art form, doesn't necessarily refer to
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talk page to discuss the issue of the name of Kero-chan's main article
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article - Perhaps it could be merged into the relevant articles for
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If what you were saying were true, we'd never be allowed to link to
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I've just taken a stab at the Sailor Moon section. Is it better? --
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Request assistance with Naruto/Sailor Moon/Airbender/Ronin Warriors
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for self-published sources policy, but claims that it doesn't meat
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concerning the article name and a request that it be renamed from
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Knowledge talk:Manual of Style (anime- and manga-related articles)
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Knowledge talk:Manual of Style (anime- and manga-related articles)
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Until the anime is created, would it be best if we tagged it with
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Any help would be appreciated. When do you think you could start?
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mostly be good to go. Any takers? I've started the discussion at
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heroes, heroic anime and manga characters, or all of the above.--
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Cool - thanks for that. Clarity is always a good thing. :) -
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/bibliography.php
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I'm not sure if the game has been released in English yet...
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How to display different names of anime and manga characters?
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and the issues the article is currently tagged for in mind.
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illegal stuff out there, if we've got a good enough source.
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Talk:Magical DoReMi#Merge Ojamajo Doremi into this article
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If their editor-in-chief is being invited to speak at the
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There is also a discussion related to the infobox image.--
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Talk:Magical DoReMi#Merge Ojamajo Doremi into this article
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Does anyone have access to the U.S.-Japan Women’s Journal?
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Interesting Discussion Links, MOS link location, and More
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Anyone have a copy of the April 2002 issue of Tokyopop's
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I need some help with editing the Ojamajo Doremi article
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keeping the first one, I never made a decision that you
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to see what else can be done. The hit pages on my list:
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even though only one season was licensed to English, or
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characters/plot to the rest of the Saint Seiya series?
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Anyone interested is encouraged to come participate in
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I am also working on Shintaro Asanuma on my test page,
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magazine? I need to confirm that it was the last issue
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Knowledge:WikiProject Anime and manga/Cleanup taskforce
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the spirit of the policy in favor of the literal word.
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TV Animation Fullmetal Alchemist Original Soundtrack 3
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TV Animation Fullmetal Alchemist Original Soundtrack 2
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TV Animation Fullmetal Alchemist Original Soundtrack 1
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respectively to conform with other article moves like
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Talk:List of characters and dinosaurs in Dinosaur King
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But if that were true, we wouldn't have policies like
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Hi. We've been trying to improve an article lately,
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Actually, I'd say my position is probably closer to
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Also, per 1045:is the "article" for the manga *shaking head* 4422:Talk:List of InuYasha episodes#Splitting List 4036:. If possible, let's be done with this ASAP. 3075:Magical DoReMi/Ojamajo Doremi Name and Merges 2565:Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Yellow Tanabe 1655:Oops, sorry. Must've misunderstood the list. 658:software, why should we do it for an H-Game? 8: 2926:A similar task force that we can look at is 2714:with the information stated by Quasirandom. 5376:series and that bulk is mostly unlicensed. 5279:, and depending on how much plot, possibly 4891:Cardcaptor Sakura and Cerberus vs Keroberos 4420:Additionally, I've started a discussion at 4080:Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Rename Discussion 3815:I agree that they shouldn't be used as the 5702:I've added it to the front page list, but 4972:Indeed it is. Tag for excessive non-free. 4298:does not automatically have priority over 3297:suggesting that the article be renamed to 2653:http://websunday.net/backstage/tanabe.html 1946:At the very least it should be renamed to 1685:help supply missing basic information. :) 18:Knowledge talk:WikiProject Anime and manga 3359:. Can anyone help me when they have time? 2928:Knowledge:WikiProject Video games/Cleanup 2249:Per AnmaFinotera, simply use "Ryuta Kodai 1883:Josei Shonan Middle School needs merging? 850:This is what we've been trying to argue. 2145:I am in favor of one of the two styles: 1972:Category:Japanese American comic artists 1970:Well, in that case it should be renamed 103:Tsukihime and mentioning fantranslations 6099: 5947:Could I know the source that says that 4008:Talk:Bleach (manga)#Media list....why? 3958:Actually, I said that the novels fail 3235:. It contains sections on the use of 2743:They are in Japanese, but I have 'em! 1826:OK, I'll just tweak the article then. 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 4451:Totoro and Shinto elements discussion 3233:Classical elements in popular culture 2076:main article. 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2876: 2872: 2871: 2867: 2866: 2865: 2864: 2863: 2862: 2861: 2860: 2853: 2849: 2847: 2846:Sephiroth BCR 2840: 2839: 2833: 2832: 2831: 2830: 2829: 2828: 2823: 2819: 2815: 2811: 2810: 2809: 2808: 2805: 2801: 2797: 2792: 2791: 2790: 2789: 2785: 2781: 2777: 2773: 2770:articles was 2769: 2768:Fruits Basket 2760: 2754: 2750: 2746: 2742: 2741: 2740: 2736: 2732: 2728: 2727: 2726: 2725: 2721: 2717: 2713: 2712:Yellow Tanabe 2702: 2698: 2694: 2690: 2686: 2682: 2678: 2677: 2676: 2675: 2674: 2673: 2672: 2671: 2667: 2663: 2654: 2650: 2648: 2644: 2640: 2637: 2634:She's on JA: 2633: 2632: 2631: 2627: 2623: 2618: 2617: 2614: 2610: 2606: 2602: 2598: 2595: 2591: 2587: 2583: 2582: 2581: 2580: 2576: 2572: 2567: 2566: 2562: 2558: 2557:Yellow Tanabe 2551:Yellow Tanabe 2550: 2548: 2547: 2543: 2539: 2536: 2523: 2519: 2517: 2516:Sephiroth BCR 2510: 2506: 2505: 2504: 2500: 2496: 2492: 2491: 2490: 2486: 2482: 2478: 2477:Dinosaur King 2474: 2470: 2469: 2467: 2463: 2459: 2455: 2454:Dinosaur King 2451: 2450: 2449: 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