756:, Anti-war may be be narrow, but it's the most commonly used term and you know what it's referring to. I feel like by moving the page you are losing some of the original essence of the project rather than encompassing a broader definition. Why not just wikiproject:Peace? Is that already taken? Does this definition of anti-war refer to pacifist movements in general, or isolationism? For now I think I think anti-war is better. Conflict studies seems to cover both international and interpersonal conflicts. I haven't exactly read all the articles in the project though, so I can't call myself an expert. --
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the project if they felt non-academics with less intellectual credentials were involved or b) they would try to discourage anyone they felt was an antiwar activist as well as an editor. Given that academics get so much money from the government they may have a bias for excusing government wars. So that is also a concern.
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State sponsored terrorism is a bit extreme. I propose a name change to "United States Covert
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Vietnam" was formed at the Congress of Unrepresented People in Washington, DC. I was there and part of this small group of people - maybe 20-30. Some of the known leaders present in this group were Bayard Rustin, David Dellinger, Jerry Rubin, Abbie Hoffman. I don't
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Brothers coming in to enforce peace through militaristic police states, which is all the rage these days (and through history).
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740:, it's so bland. Anti-war is anti-war, not peace, not studying a conflict, it's being anti-war and knowing what you are doing (as you can tell I was active in one of the anti-war movements, back when long hair and bad clothes meant something). How about '
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