2120:. First off, you can do one search and net both recommendations and actual awards in one go, rather than search for awards in one spot and recommendations in another. I find this a time saver. In one way, however, the results aren't quite as friendly and may result in broken links in some articles. You used to be able to get on one page each award for a particular person and all the details associated with those awards. With this new search engine you can still get a list of all the awards but you then have to enter each record to see all the details that you used to get for all awards on the one page. For those of us who have included links to such pages in WP articles, the link will now simply take you to the search engine. I don't think this is a disaster by any means, as most people link to the London Gazette for each award citation, but it's as well to be aware. The good news is that links to AWM recommendation PDFs still appear to work as before. Cheers,
1421:"As part of a larger project on WW1 Aces, I am gradually populating the UK list with additional names. In terms of notability, not every ace will justify a future article of their own (discussed at WP Military History Talk Pages), so these additions will not always have a Wiki-Link. I propose also to break the Wiki-Links for existing names where it appears that the individual concerned MAY not merit a full article in their own right. The link can always easily be re-established and the effect on the table hopefully will be to tidy it up a bit. Happy to listen to any comments anybody wants to make on this. Scoop100 13:03, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
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was battlefield commissioned. This latter alone makes him unusual, and is probably connected to some major bravery in battle, of course. Also, because the war crimes were never tried, it makes knowledge of him even less of a notable event, as you point out, making merging into the main article seem more usable. However, as the acting task force leader and battlefield commissioned, he should be individually be mentioned in the Tiger Force article. --
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Cockade', which specialises in WWI aviation, is continuously publishing new material as sources come to light. In that sense, the lack of available documentation for the 'lesser' Aces as of now doesn't mean that that will always be the case. Who knows, in years to come there could be resources coming available which may throw further light on any or all of these guys. But, its still sensible at this juncture to have the cut-off at 20, I think.
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that were used in formulating an article, and therefore, an editor who "fact checked" by finding a corollary source or who read material from that source in order to better understand the topic, can list that source as useful. The particular deletions of reference sources added by a very experienced editor, and a reputable researcher and contributor to the aviation project group, is also problematic. What do you think? FWiW
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file so that I could add the info from these sources to the
Burbeck page. I do have an image of his signature from the web and I don't think signatures are copywritten, but I am unsure. I would like to add it to the page. Could someone advise me? Also, I would like to make this an A class article can someone tell me what changes I could make to get it to that point.
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WP lose the opportunity, one day in the future, to have an article if and when the supporting documentation becomes available. That's just my particular hobby-horse; I realise that what you're suggesting doesn't mean any loss of what's already there. We just have to be practical at the moment and I think that's what your suggestions certainly are.
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Thanks for including me amongst the recipients of your messages about changing the list a bit. I'm OK with all that you say, in terms of splitting the list up. It will (already has?) become quite unwieldy, so splitting by nationality is fine by me. The only thing is: it was split similar to that
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Further to comment as above, some of the Aces listed for other nations are also presently wikilinked but similarly may not eventually merit a full article, in terms of their notability. Again I'd propose to break the wikilinks as necessary and work towards tidying the whole list up. Still happy to
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comments about flags in the info boxes. In particular they add little to military (and other) biographies and are often misleading, historically inaccurate, or even ideologically motivated. For example, most RN officers have had these national flags added to the extent that anglo-irish have the
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Not as far as I am aware, unless you picked an article that only needed an infobox. That is not to say that this work is not valuable, it is just not covered by the contest department which is about rewarding article development. You would probably get a barnstar off me for doing it though!Ā ;)
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His American Civil War service seems reasonably-well documented (there's more that I haven't yet added), but all I can find for his War of 1812 service is that he attained the rank of brigadier general during that war; nothing about what campaigns or battles he was involved in, what units he
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In the second category, there could be the facility to record a few details of the Ace, if these are available. But principally the purpose would be just to retain a list by nationality with the bare bones of name, Unit no., and number of victories. If ever the decision is made that there is
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England, with 595 aces, comprises a complete list near the size of the one we now have. However, without the Country column with its graphics, I intuit the site size would be tolerable. (Your opinion on this would be most welcome; you are probably more knowledgeable than I on this.)
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Regarding the merger of these two lists, Iām wondering if in doing that, we could actually at the same time introduce some changes. Not all Aces, in truth, would justify a full WP article either from the point of view of notability or the availability of sufficient information.
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with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Knowledge (XXG) 1.0 scheme! For the
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came to the throne AFAICT there would be a royal army for campaigns financed by the English Parliament, but did he and the rest of the Stuarts have Royal armies and navies or different ones for different nations? If they were not national based then what were they?
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I think it is worth a try George creating the national index and changing this to a 20 or more it would not cause any problems (although I still have an issue with splitting out England/Wales/Scotland/Ireland when they are really one country!) .
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who served during the American Revolutionary War. I've got a handful of sources that each provide a little bit of information, but I need some help fleshing it all out into something truly worth reading about. Any help is appreciated!
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The article is already three times the Knowledge (XXG) recommended size, and it is only a third done. There are about 1150 names still to be listed to complete the list. If all the names are added, it will become largely inaccessible.
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Why add it again? Probably because people are removing it based on a nonexistent policy. Removing flags because you think they're cruft is akin to moving article names to the British or American spelling because you like it better.
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I would urge you not to change the cutoff to 20 victories. Yes the page is big but not intolerably so, even on a dialup. Besides, what list titled "List of World War I Flying Aces" would leave out Luke, Immelmann and Lufbery?Ā :)
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I'm going to focus on systematically adding Military Person Infoboxes to bio articles that lack them. Would this work be eligible for the Contest Department? I'm unclear how that would be scored. --
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Guys, this will primarily be of interest to those working on biographical articles of Australian service folk...
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representation was still maintained even though the list was bobbed. I made nice, and it has backfired slightly.
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and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at
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Hi, I've just written a new article which may be of interest to members of this project. It is
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This includes a new interface for making requests to add a new project to the list.
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The above list is now populated with all 1,861 known aces from World War I.
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This user will dine on MREs as soon as they offer varieties such as "
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be the same. Please report any apparent inconsistencies (see below).
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all older references to individual gazettes. (originally posted by
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Hiya, an article that is within the scope of this WikiProject,
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