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577:, posted for the use of all Wikipedians who have occasion to edit articles on human intelligence and related issues. I happen to have circulating access to a huge academic research library at a university with an active research program in these issues (and to another library that is one of the ten largest public library systems in the United States) and have been researching these issues since 1989. You are welcome to use these citations for your own research. You can help other Wikipedians by 152: 127: 701: 745:). The bio mostly just repeats claims from the book article (but with barely any hint of controversy or challenge, and strong suggestions of influence), while the book article is mostly just repetition of what is said at the hypothesis article (but without much of the critical material from the latter). 722:
Summary: Aspects of his hypothesis having "inspired" some later research doesn't equate to his work being proven correct, and cognitive science, evolutionary psychology, and related displines decreasingly support it, most especially his central notion that consciousness only arose a few millennia
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The two articles need some work, especially the one on cognition. A systematic perspective is lacking, especially the lead section deserves attention and e.g. a thorough definition. Most basic facts are underrepresented in favour of very specific theoretical assumptions that may presently remain
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It is thus proposed to merge these into a single article on the hypothesis, the book it came from, and who wrote it, with all the critical material present, and expanded by more recent work on consciousness and cognitition. Even if they were not merged, they have to stop viewpoint-forking (and
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I think they are (roughly) the same. Some authors use the term "relevance problem". Some authors consider the terms synonymous, too. Personally and in the most general sense, i would speak of the frame problem. Btw, maybe you have noticed my suggestion to merge
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speculative. Differences between CogSci and other approaches to the subject should be clearly reflected (not necessarily explicated). The CogSci perspective should be elaborated on grounds of considerate literature. Please refer to the list of
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should see some clean up to distinguish the specific use in behavioural and cognitive psychology and cognitive neuroscience from applications of the term in environmental psychology (resp. geography, architecture, education etc.).
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As I commented, I think it is preferable to turn the redirect into a stub rather than deleting it. You could probably write a better one than me, but I'm willing to do it if you prefer. My thought is to write something like
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ago. Furthermore, it was proposed at that article to move it and reshape it into an article on the book, since the person is not notable for anything other than one book. Instead, the subject has been
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makes it impossible to represent all possible combinations explicitly. The problem is to devise a scheme that only explicitly represents a subset of feature-combinations that are most "relevant".
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ist really vague, in need of a decent lead and definition – pieces of descriptive and explanatory aspects are mixed together (even tough sections of the article might be very specific).
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Cognitive science has a broad scope, as the project page section about this project makes clear. You may find it helpful while reading or editing articles to look at a bibliography of
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There are two categories that are very similar - maybe they should be merged but maybe they're different enough so I thought I'd see what others thing.
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could be expanded to reflect the more scientific aspects. On the other hand, the definition is quite specific to CS and might be widened a bit.
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That would need some editing and sourcing, of course, but comments on whether it goes in the right direction would be welcome.
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on 14 April. After a week of no input it has been relisted, so your comments regarding this redirect would be very welcome at
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A number of articles are concerned with a similar or seemingly similar subject matter (remarks/respective scope in brackets):
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through comments on that page. It will be extremely helpful for articles on human intelligence to edit them according to the
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Julian Jaynes and his "bicameral mind" hypothesis that consciousness arose only about 4,000 years ago – 3-way POVFORK
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Lova Falk has been doing some recent work on this article already, please help if you like. You can take a look at
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Thank you very much; I have listed this in the literature section of our project page. Kind regards,
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Could you give me a pointer to a source that defines the relevance problem as you have it in mind?
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Anyway, please follow up at the Talk:Julian_Jaynes discussion thread, so this stays centralized.
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Talk:Julian Jaynes#It needs to be made clearer that his overall hypothesis is WP:FRINGE
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Knowledge (XXG) standards for reliable sources for medicine-related articles
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Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 April 22#Relevance problem
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might be renamed »Internal model (motor control)« to reflect its scope.
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The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind
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There's a discussion about a possible User Group for STEM over at
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needs some cleanup, material could be used in the other articles.
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coatracking of the hypothesis across all three articles).
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Models, representations, maps – a quick review of articles
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