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796:... but then ASL is part of the LSF family so I don't know if it'd be good to make the title I just proposed or to flesh out/merge to the French SL article. I'm not sure if I'm for or against, but the "best" option that I'm leaning to here is what I just suggested—fleshing out the LSF family article, perhaps detailing the connections between the languages if possible (things like ASL having 60% intelligibility with LSF—found in the book "Journey into the Deaf-World" and probably cited to somewhere else in there—or (though all I know is OR on this) extremely high mutual intelligibility of ASL and Ghana SL)—it seems smarter than just merging the group into one article, and it could accommodate short blurbs for established articles and information about the shared characteristics of the languages, which would push that article into more informative space than just a list of languages. - 767:

proposed (Nigerian and Ghanaian), the only sources are Ethnologue 18 and Glottologue which are only slightly better than verification that the language variety exists. I looked at the interlanguage articles and none of them are more than 5 sentences and seem to cite similar sources, and they may have different inclusion policies than English Knowledge (XXG). I guess I'm asking for a more detailed explanation of why they should remain seperate. I'm unfamiliar with Wikidata, is it unable to handle redirects? How would it make "proper working more difficult"?

244: 444: 3003: 132: 2241:. I found the topic pretty interesting, but I came here in case people have some ideas on how to better integrate the article into the encyclopedia with links going into the new page. I only came up with two from some possible backlink searches of existing text, but if anyone that is more of an expert in this area has ideas on pages that can have text added, that would be appreciated! Regards, 181: 2615: 163: 3155: 3046: 2482: 2423: 2179: 2094: 1936: 1877: 1818: 1724: 1598: 1539: 1480: 1375: 3245:. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are 2673:. It may be from Italian SL, but OTOH, given that American Sign Language and British Sign Language are mutually unintelligible, I'm not sure that there is any single handsign that would make sense for all Sign Languages in places where the English Language is used. (and given the fact that it is a static image, where signs move) Any ideas? 887: 883: 892: 2831:

I picked this image because not only the quality is good, but this WikiProject also uses it in there userbox. Now I’m no sure what the hand gesture means as I don’t do sign language. It might mean something, it might not. The most important thing that matters though is that members of the WikiProject

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I'm unsure. Like I said, sources are unfortunately scarce on these topics. Bolivian Sign seems to be more different because it displaced an indigenous sign language or languages (but no one has studied the remaining signers of that language or languages). With languages of African countries, I'm less

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When I was taking a few semesters of ASL, my professors were very insistent that the "D" in deaf should only ever be lowercase if it is referring to the condition of being deaf. They said in all other cases one would be referring to Deaf people and Deaf culture which should be capitalized on account

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Hi all! I have started a project called BSL Lives, with the aim to include more biographies of British deaf people on Knowledge (XXG). So far, 10 have been approved and published, and another 12 drafted (you can find them looking for the category "BSL users"). I would like to increase the visibility

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We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you?

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Yes, but that presumably differs from school to school. Do all the schools in Nigeria speak a unitary variety of ASL that is distinct from that spoken by all the schools in Chad? Or is it more like Guatemalan Spanish vs Honduran Spanish, when the language doesn't change at the border? Okay as terms

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a. I typically offer this course once per year, with approximately 25 students per semester. Therefore, an additional 25 countries (or significant regions) should receive deafness-focused articles every year. I'm relatively new to Wiki-work, and would appreciate help integrating these pages with

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Yes, it would be a good idea to have a brief mention. In brief, mutual intelligibility among sign languages follows the same pattern as among spoken languages: when one is a dialect of, or derived from another, the more recent, generally the more intelligible; when there isn't such a relationship,

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I have no problem with a merger (you'll notice I already merged Guinean and Chadian SL), but I'd merge in Francophone SL as well, since that's also just a stub. But, I'm also not sure "dialect" is the right term, especially since few intelligibility studies have been done, and dialects might not

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However, I feel that it's really important that anything that I put up not minimise or marginalise the Deaf community, and not fall into ableist language. I'm coming from a hearing perspective in a profession that has historically done some horrible things to people with hearing loss, and I want

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I'm very aware that it is a visual language. My question is why *these* handshapes. Why the 3hand rather than BentB or K. If it is simply that you picked them because you liked them, that's fine, that at least answers the question. If they mean something in Italian Sign Language, that's fine as

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While the language codes may be different, there isn't much consensus as to whether they are remarkably different and language codes are slightly arbitrary in that they can be politically biased without regard for the linguistic differences between varieties. And for two of the three articles

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Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Knowledge (XXG) struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia

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So, I was hoping that someone might be willing to work with me to ensure that my language is okay as I work on these pages to improve them. Also, I was wondering what the state of any guides regarding terminology are - I'm currently using "person with a hearing loss", but it's a bit clunky.

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Please edit this page, it is my sandbox but I give everyone permission to constructively edit it. I want to get this to namespace quickly and have it translated into the Knowledge (XXG) of other languages (especially into the American Sign Language Knowledge (XXG) that is in beta stages).

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I'm a (hearing, ASL-fluent) professor at Temple University; Honors students in one of my courses as assigned to create Knowledge (XXG) articles about the experiences of DHH people in various countries around the world. Last fall, students created new articles focusing on deafness in

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to side step the issue of language vs. dialect. I put in a request at my library for Morgan 2004 from Theoertical Issues in Sign Language Research (TISLR) 8 which attempted to construct a tree for ASLic. Hopefully that could shed some light on the issue of relatedness as well.

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Someone else noticed the same thing and added a comment in the article's talk page. We had both noticed several instances where the word 'Deaf' was capitalized, some more strangely than others. As the other person asked "is this political?" :-) Could y'all take a look at

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but they would be summarized and cross linked to their articles) and cover the stub articles in full. I feel like this would make them easier to maintain and improve while allowing for forking when more scholarship is available in the future. I've notified

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Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please

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I picked up the other one - super interesting! I've not put the template on for this project (or anything else you might need) as I'd never heard of it til today, so you might want to check! So interesting and such important work to do :) Happy editing

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of describing a group of people; this would be similar to saying "American people" or "Black people." My question here is if those rules should apply to the articles in this project because I have seen capitalization like that but only occasionally.

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Hi there. I happen to be a translator by profession and I also am a relative of a Uruguayan deaf person. Today I found out that there was no Spanish equivalent of this project. Anybody willing to give a helping hand? Then, please, go ahead to

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only includes information about spoken languages, but does not mention anything about sign languages at all. I don't have any knowledge about the subject, but think it's important. Maybe someone wants to add a paragrah about sign languages?

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which is lovely to see (is that also you?). I'm glad to see many of your new article drafts are being approved through the 'articles for creation' process. It can be quite a gauntlet sometimes... I do notice that two were rejected:

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be more accurate for what you intend to cover? These are things I think should be considered before starting a new article as opposed to improving another existing one and are the kinds of questions that should guide your content

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Is this a hypothetical or real person? I'd default to HOH (or "has a mild hearing loss" could be even better, to avoid jumping to any conclusion) for someone like that, myself, unless they identify as hearing individually. -

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I have created these articles with relevant to deafness,relating to a particular nation at Deaflympics.These articles also categorised under disability.These articles are stub classed and needed to be improved.

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It seems that there's at least some lexical variation between the different varieties, and some sources talk about creolization with home signs in the various countries but I'm not sure of the extent of that.

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two hands with three fingers in a moving sense is the symbolic of sign languages because it is a visual language, which you could read in the item of the topic which is written in detail..

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I recently created an article with this title.Because there weren't any Deaflympics related articles about relating to Nations. I created this article because USA is the most popular team in

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Quality assessments by Knowledge (XXG) editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at

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article and its associated articles are rather terrible, and I'm looking to expand and rewrite them. I've started working on the Audiology article in my sandbox, it's a big job!

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My institution doesn't have access to the books I mentioned here unfortunately. My local library does according to WorldCat, so I'll see when I have time to go and get it.

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I reckon Lawson's OBE, honorary degree, and major research contributions add up to notability so have moved her to mainspace and done a bit more work on the article.

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Never doubted anything, just needed a good quality image and something that was already familiar to members of this WikiProject, thanks for letting me know though.

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hello, wikifriend, how are you?? congratulations to the new graph.. it's beautiful!!! yes, it is the symbol of sign languages and the Deaf culture.. ^__^ thanks @

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Would a person with mild hearing loss, who can understand speech unaided most of the time and isn't part of Deaf culture be considered hearing. According to the

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That being said, with regards to your plans to expand, I'd definitely consider looking for more sources as those will be the backbone of your expansion. A quick

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dear wikifriends how are you?? I have a question: is Mondaze TV an encyclopedic item to be created according to your criteria or is it not encyclopedic?? --

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If a page is very short and is unlikely to be expanded within a reasonable amount of time, it often makes sense to merge it with a page on a broader topic

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Having tried to research and expand pages on the dialects of ASL, I have found very little information that isn't already included in the stub pages

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that may be of interest to this WikiProject. Please feel free to contribute if you have any pertinent knowledge or perspective at that discussion.

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have a certain amount of mutual comprehensibility (I'd say around 30% or so) because ASL was partly developed from FSL in the early 19th century.

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of the project on Knowledge (XXG) and to recruit some help. Do you think setting up a specific task force would be appropriate? Thanks! Best,

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this broader project, and/or other related projects. And of course, all Wikipedians are invited to help improve the articles themselves!

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and think about what to do? I see sections here that talk about capitalization. Maybe the policy/guidelines are clearer now? Thanks.

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that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

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Various categories have been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the

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are interested in trying to rescue those ones? (I'll ping WiR and the Chapter WM-UK on twitter about this project in general too).

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Hi, There is an attempt at improving this article that in my Sandbox, if anyone wants to review it then I'd be most grateful.

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You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that

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which itself seems to be a very promising book. If you don't have JSTOR access, you can ask a wikilibrarian for help at

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about mentioning her deafness in the lead section. Other editors are invited to comment. Discussion can be found here:

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correspond to countries. Maybe s.t. like "regional varieties of ASL" or "local varieties of ASL around the world"? —

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I'm an Australian audiologist working with both hard of hearing and Deaf people, and I've noticed that the

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and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my

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guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at

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No need for "language" before "varieties". Still, do the countries really correspond to varieties? —

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until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.

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is very important for equality, quality and to understand videos by deaf and hear-impaired people. --

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Hello friends, an editor has requested help at the Knowledge (XXG) Reference Desk in the thread

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anything that I write to be accessible to everybody and not medicalise hearing loss too much.

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I do intend for the article to be international. The page is supposed to the Deaf version of

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Someone who is hard of hearing has hearing loss but is not completely incapable of hearing.

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Hypothetical of course. I would never ask questions about real, non-notable people here.

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easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested,

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Wondering if we should rename this project to the broader term "Hearing health"?

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Hello. I just wanted to post a note that a new article has been published at

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Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 4 § Deaf ethnicity

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What coverage are you able to add that would be significantly different from

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history.If I had made any mistakes I will apologies for it and let me know.

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That sounds like a good ref, and an improvement over what I've been using.

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I started a wikibook on the most used ASL writing and notational systems

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Is there a specific meaning to "Profoundly Deaf" as opposed to "Deaf"?

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Montreal School for the Deaf

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Talk:Sign language#The lead: teaching sign language to non-humans

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Hello all, I have drafted an article about the deaf actress

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edit-a-thon. Thoughts, particularly from any Deaf editors?

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