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2282:. It was kept because it suited our purposes better. Sometimes consistency can be a bad thing. When we use a "one size fits all" template, the issues of all the users have to be considered and that doesn't always happen. UK users complained that their needs weren't being addressed by the people pushing Infobox settlement. That's a bad thing. As for editors not being daunted by having to remove information from the infobox, sadly that's the case, but that doesn't make it right. Many editors simply copy and paste infoboxes which is the wrong thing to do. As somebody who has replaced hundreds of infoboxes I can tell you that's a real pain. Editors copy deprecated fields, miss fields that should be included and transfer errors from one article to another, when using a fresh copy of the template eliminates all that. Finally, using Infobox school instead of Infobox Aust school is 2310:
actually a case of two templates, one of which is essentially from what I can see a subset of the other and both work about the same so long as people don't get silly with the additional fields. I agree with the problems with a "one size fits all" approach, and have seen for myself in other areas some of the problems you describe with infobox usage, but I'm also aware with lack-of-maintenance issues in some templates and note the template's ad hoc, somewhat organic origins with a lot of borrowing from the generic. I should note that if this was a vote, my position is more "Neutral" than "Support" - I'm happy either way and am certainly not opposed to the original template staying if that was the end outcome, as it appears to do the job well.
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our purpose. Again, already done. The next step is to eliminate any fields that we don't think we should be using and add any that I may have missed. At that point we can start to change infoboxes. The reason for using a blank with all the fields is that it's easier to prune unnecessary fields than to go back and add missing fields later. All infoboxes have "unnecessary" fields and they aren't a bad thing because they encourage editors to find content for them and, hopefully, expand the article accordingly. The fields that are in my "blank" are all fields that were in the existing templates or which, based on an examination of several articles could apply to Australian schools. "
3180:{{Infobox school | name = North Sydney Boys High School | image = Example.svg | imagesize = 190px | alt = North Sydney Boys' High School Crest | motto = {{lang-la|Vincit qui se vincit}} | motto_translation = "He conquers who conquers himself" | slogan = "To higher things" | song = "That Which You Do, Do Well" | city = ] | state = ] | country = ] {{flagicon|Australia}} | coordinates = {{coord|33|49|46|S|151|12|27|E|display=inline,title}} | schooltype = ], ], ] ] | established = 1912<ref name="NSBHS": --> 4913: 4708:, the Super TAFE reference is a derogatory reference to a University with the intention of indicating the university is not a real university (better than a training college, not good enough to be a university). Usually used to disparage a university because the person using the term feels the university doesn't have the same credibility as other (usually older) universities in the same Australian State/Territory. The university the terms refers to will change dependent on the state the person referring to the 'Super TAFE' comes from, so it should not be specific to any university as is currently the case. 5307:, which is a list of (WP) lists of schools in Australia, and most of them (at a quick browse) use 'G v NG'. As a schoolboy in the 1960s we would talk about 3 types of schools: State, Catholic and Private.(!) Then we heard people on UK TV programmes talking about 'public' and 'private' schools and it made no sense, because some of the private schools were obviously open to the (usually wealthy) public. So these days I prefer G v NG, and NG breaks down to other categories (Church v Secular; Catholic v Anglican; sometimes Catholic v 'everybody else'; {usw}). Anyway, I had thoughts of being all 3379:
from fields that aren't relevant at all. An abbreviated blank may result in editors adding fields that we've agreed should not be included, such as revenue and ranking. Your blank is not entirely consistent with Infobox school and you haven't taken into account differences between the states, such as using years instead of grades. As for me insisting, are you not doing that yourself by modifying articles based on your blank and making your own decisions as to what should or should not be included, rather than simply converting the content? That's what got us into the
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Perhaps unsurprisingly I received no response at all. Zero. zilch. nada. I don't intend to copy-paste the whole post here, but in short I was thinking that, as far as that WP/article (at least) goes, we might be better adopting Government vs Non-government (G v NG) as the descriptors, as preferred by
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and several of the descriptions have been modified to suit Australian school use. As I've already pointed out above, providing a blank with all potential fields serves a dual purpose. It both steers an editor to a version with all of the fields that may be applicable to Australia and steers them away
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I'm going for the one above. To start with we want to define a minimum standard, and Aussielegend's contains quite a few that aren't necessary in some cases (school song, while interesting, shouldn't be a priority until we get everything else going) and shouldn't be included in others (revenue should
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actually requires delimiting for numbers with more than four digits so it's entirely consistent to include a comma. Your argument that inclusion makes it inconsistent does not make sense, since the enrolments of different schools aren't shown on the same page. How standard practice looks "awkward" is
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There being no link between them, do you intend for editors to make those changes themselves when things happen? In your example, an editor who's interested in Sea Patrol would have to then go back and check the parent template in order to maintain design consistency. It makes more sense to have less
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What I mean is a design or layout change, not a content change. If there was any overarching part of the broader template that changed, in order to maintain consistency, the child templates would have to change as well. For example, an interface change on wikipedia more generally predicating a design
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I don't like copying infoboxes from other articles as I've found far too many articles with infoboxes that have many, and often, significant errors. I always try to use a fresh version of any template to avoid errors. I don't actually have an issue with this template being based on Infobox school but
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6 times in 20 years (i.e., a change every approximately every 3⅓ years - electoral cycle?) won't create all that heavy a load in terms of ensuring continuity on wikipedia. I don't think we need to include history of the districts/regions/etc., which could prove problematic, just a rundown and a list
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The problem is that we don't have school districts in the sense that the US does. Here they're an administrative convenience that can be, and often are, blatted away and replaced with the stroke of a pen. For example here in WA, there's been no less than 16 systems of districts since World War II, 6
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which has been standardised for quite a long time to make it easier for page creators and the regulars at the school project. :Don't hesitate to modigy these or to contact the schools project if you feel the available fields on the two Australian boxes do not address today's needs - these are fixes
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2) AussieLegend also seems to believe that putting an interpretation of the motto into the infobox is acceptable, as he has done with Newcastle HS, in which he has added an interpretation to a translation from Latin of remis velisque (remis means oar, velis means sail). I disagree. There are as many
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We don't have to change the template at all. The only fields that we need worry about now are the ones that we already use. We certainly don't need zipcode, LEA, MOE, ofsted, ceeb, SAT, ACT or a whole host of the other fields. As for adding fields, if we really see the need to name the head cleaner,
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Could be useful for some articles. In regard to Chaplains, at least, and I can't remember his name (been trying for the last couple of minutes, but it's too late at night), but I can think of at least one Chaplain who's probably notable (and probably already has an article here) and would be good to
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If we're going to do this then we at least have to agree on a common set of requirements for every page's infobox and a preferred option among several options, for wherever there's a choice (for example, in regards to religious_affiliation and religion, etc.; why are there both btw; it's redundant).
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There are enough differences between Australian and US schools to justify the extra template, plus it would allow us the flexibility to provide other, more Australian specific information in the future (I'm sure you know the website to which I'm referring, but I'd vehemently disapprove of linking to
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We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you?
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fulfil the roles of the fields in those infoboxes and how the same fields may differ in the way that they're specified in Infobox school and their actual use in our articles. Moondyne and I have both found inconsistencies there. Then we need to see what extra fields in Infobox school might apply to
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used now so they have to be considered. If we intend moving to Infobox school we have to accept that people are going to use whatever valid fields in that template that they see fit. If people want to use "key_people", or any other field, they will. In order to ensure consistency across the project
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IAP, though, was a case where the two choices were a well-designed, purpose-built, effective template which originated from a community effort versus a dog's breakfast which made vector calculus look easy by comparison and didn't even remotely meet the needs of the project. Aust school vs school is
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I think a lot of those fields are or may become necessary. I was looking through it and was surprised to see "Chaplain", but of course, courtesy of the ALP and Coalition... All schools have (or at least have the opportunity to have) Chaplains. We're slowly becoming more Americanised in our approach
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Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Education in Australia will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Australian education. We've created an event page on English Knowledge (XXG) (please translate!) and I hope
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I think we still need more discussion on the fields that are applicable and how they are used. The suggested blank doesn't take into account the fields as they are used, or the differences between states. For example, "years", not "grades" are used in New South Wales and I have some concerns about
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As I've mentioned already, use of key_people in Infobox Australia school private is at odds with its use in Infobox school. Its use there seems to be mainly as one of many seemingly unnecessary fields and I agree it's better not to advocate its use as there are other fields that are better suited.
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I think members of this project might be very interested in this discussion of proposed changes. These matters concern topics that I think may be too controversial for the ‘Request Edit” noticeboard, which is only for straightforward requests. I want to disclose that I have a conflict of interest
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I think members of this project might be very interested in this discussion of proposed changes. These matters concern topics that I think may be too controversial for the ‘Request Edit” noticeboard, which is only for straightforward requests. I want to disclose that I have a conflict of interest
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1)As I have pointed out to you on my talkpage, it is quite appropriate to include a comma because it's Australian practice to delimit numbers in this way when there are four or more digits to the left of the decimal point. In fact it's quite common all over the world to do this. It most certainly
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Must admit I agree with Danjel re key people, but agree with AussieLegend that one can't just drop the field seeing as it's in use on many of the private school articles (it needs to be sorted out on a by-article basis). When we did the IAP conversion years ago (with a bot), some fields on custom
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contains, the big issue is that Infobox Aust school doesn't include the billion or so fields that are irrelevant to Australia that are in Infobox school. This was the main thing that resulted in this template being kept and nothing has changed. When somebody creates a school article using Infobox
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What are those differences? AU, NZ, UK and Idaho(!) are the only ones still not using Infobox school, although many school articles in those countries as well as in AU (about 50% from my subpage above) use the generic template perfectly well. Agreement on your last point ;) If a future link (or
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Bad idea. School districts in Australia are not something of any notability outside the respective Department of Education; no one's ever heard of them and no one gives a stuff. It's a poor solution; that time would be better spent sourcing school articles to make bloody sure they hold up if the
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It doesn't overcomplicate anything because the main changes that are being carried out now are changing "Infobox Aust school" to read "Infobox school" and a few cosmetic changes. Very few extra fields are being added. The purpose of the blank is future guidance, as well as providing a consistent
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It's a great idea, and I'm happy to work on Mathematics (initially from a WA perspective) and help with Science and Social Sciences, which reflects my teaching preference. I'd add geography and change PE to "Health and physical education in Australia". (Only NSW uses PDHPE, but other states all
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there are some things about different regions which are kind of special and this would provide opportunities to include them, such as with the George's River Network's cross-school G&T program or Network 8/Port Jackson's maGneT G&T/Aboriginal/Music program which are notable in that they
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Thanks for the terminology! I messed around with the feeder template idea in my sandbox last night but the restriction on having to explicitly decide on which parameters are included makes it a less desirable way to go IMO. Why should we second guess which fields editors need? Of course, one
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When non-notable Australian primary schools are deleted, a redirect is put up that sends people to the locality, irrespective of any mention of educational facilities in that locality. This is of no value to people who are interested in schools. On the other hand, when primary schools in other
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to see that it has long been accepted site-wide that apart from very exceptional circumstances, primary schools are not considered notable, and that the practice is to redirect primary schools to either the article about the school district (in the USA), or to the page about the school's
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I'm a bit more on the "oppose change" side at this point. However, if use of the fields in Infobox school was properly documented (is the "Chief custodian" the head cleaner or the General Assistant) so as to avoid any confusion, and we had an appropriate blank, perhaps along the lines of
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If the rest of wikipedia (with the exceptions of us, NZ and Idaho) is moving towards consolidation, as you said Moondyne, then we should follow the trend. The notion that we're so different that we have to be separate is a little bit nationalistic, particularly in light of the continuing
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Ah, true. Thanks for catching that. Will be fixed in a sec. As for "my" blank. It's not mine, even if you apparently declare ownership of your's. It's not mine because others have edited and improved "mine". But this is the point of this whole stupid situation, isn't it? It's your's vs.
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I don't think that editors who start articles become daunted by having to remove lots of detail from an infobox - we do it all the time any time we commit to editting a page (and I intend to shortly begin putting up a whole stack of notable primary schools, so I'm committing myself to
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For those who aren't yet aware, there is a mass push on deleting school articles at the moment, including Australian school articles. It's being led by a few editors who really aren't putting a lot of diligence into ensuring that what they're putting to AfD are truly non-notable.
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ranking) was needed, there's a {ranking} parameter there now, or something new could be added, or an add-on template could be built without needing to change the master. I also cannot see why Template:Infobox secondary school is needed (except that it has 2400 transclusions). –
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I am concerned it is a privacy issue and that the students mentioned are not notable in their own right. References are all from the local newspaper, rather than any other paper of note. Perhaps to avoid undue weight then a list of students expelled should also be incuded!
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3154:|assistant_principals = <!-- OPTIONAL : (If more than one assistant principal) State the names of the Assistant Principals of the school NOTE: Do not use title, ie, Mr., Mrs., etc. --: --> 2553:, where we provide examples for specific uses. Providing a blank with all potential fields serves a dual purpose. It both steers an editor to a version with all of the fields that may be applicable to Australia and steers them away from fields that aren't relevant at all. -- 4215:
Not so. The notability guideline is about whether an article should exist on the topic, not about a mention of the topic in another article. Primary schools should be mentioned in the appropriate article on the town they are in, but not in any detail. I have now fixed the
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Again, and to everyone else who's reading. The point is not to create a massive unwieldy blank with everything that can be in it, in it. The purpose is to create a minimum from which people can improve if they like. A good page should, minimally, contain the blank above.
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Noted. I'm sorry I haven't been able to do much here today (and tomorrow will be the same) but I'm sure we can come up with a solid guideline which improves on what we have now, which is a mish-mash of 4 different templates and interpretations of parameter meanings.
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the previous decision not to move to schools (I don't mean to put words into his mouth, I expect that he'll make the same argument here shortly). Yes, absolutely. But it seems that practice has changed, even if, on that occasion 3 years ago the viewpoint hadn't (yet).
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There is going to be a major campaign to clean up school articles during 2011, stay tuned, and if you are not already a member of the Schools project, do consider joining and seeing where you can help. More news later! Kind regards, and all the best for 2011.
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Bloody hells. Schools just have to be complicated, don't they? Umm. I have no idea how we're going to accomodate that one into either of the templates (well, at least doing it correctly). Maybe the only way to do it is to add a break in each line next to Motto.
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take care to create an Education section in the locality page if there is not one already, and merge any useful details. Larger, well written articles about towns are more likely to make it to GA or FA than a bunch or perma stubs about any kind of
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or the section above? I don't see it matters too much but am inclined towards Aussie's as it seems to be more broad. We can always cull parameters later if they're found to be not in use. If we can resolve this minor issue we can get into the conversions.
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the figures are group notable not percentage not notable gov prim Total 281 231 45% gov sec Total 190 27 12% cath Total 88 52 37% greek Total 2 0 0% islam Total 8 0 0% ind Total 113 5 4% oth Total 1 1 50% Grand Total 683 316 32%
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Hi, there has been a deletion of primary schools which means that independent schools are nearly always notable and public or catholic schools are not. Partly this is because the private/independent often contains secondary schools, but it seems biased
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that can easily be made. Also, you might wish to consider placing the generic Australia project template on the talk pages of Australian schools - this is particularly important for you to be able to use bot and category tracking for various purposes.
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I would suggest that as the school system is very different from the US we do not base our notability criteria on theirs. We do not have elementary schools feeding into only certain high schools. Instead students can go to any school after primary
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Finally. The current practise, regardless of the previous decision and regardless of whatever decision we make here, has been to use infobox schools. That suggests that the community of editors has moved to that template whether we like it or not.
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It is actually called "Health and Physical Education" in every state except NSW (PDHPE) and TAS (Health and Wellbeing). I didn't know this until I started looking just then. As such it seems to make more sense to change it to the most-used name.
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I'm not advocating use of "ranking", I was simply pointing out the differences between the templates. If we use Infobox school it will be necessary to ensure that field is deleted from any article using it to avoid the issue I've identified.
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Cheers, and welcome. As I've said above, practice has changed, even if that decision on that date went against change. Approaches to wikipedia aren't set in stone when a decision is made, and that's clear from the fact that there has been
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pages have been re formatted and tidied up, especially some aspects being split off into sub pages because the main page was getting too long. Do please take a moment to check it out, and you may find that you can avoid some unnecessary
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Most Primary Schools are never going to be notable enough to justify their own pages, no matter how much time is spent sourcing them, but a treatment of them within a whole region may be a better way to go. The example I gave above of
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My problem is that I envisage a situation where people will be spoilt for choice with regards to how to represent some of the Australia-specific things. Going through and fixing things like enrollment versus enrolment is going to be a
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Enrollments uses a label "Number of students", so spelling is moot. Colour/colors is handled by separate parameters and labels. Fees are in the generic as well as the Australian one. I don't understand the religion thing at all.
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In practice articles that are about an elementary or middle school (or equivalent) will normally be merged into the school district article they are associated with, or locality article (such as a village or town) if this is not
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I've changed the title for the Phys. Ed. one. I don't think just "health" covers it as NSW and Vic. (at least) both incorporate a lot of welfare issues into their teaching in this area as well (e.g. child protection issues).
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We already have a minimum standard, which are the fields that were already in the existing infoboxes that are being replaced. What we need to do, or rather don't because I've already done it, is look to see how the fields in
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page to edit OpenStreetMap and I noticed that Carnegie Mellon is still listed even though it's now closed. Is there something someone here could do because I don't want to mess it up but just removing it and nothing else.
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Shouldn't be a problem unless I'm missing something, there's separate {{{logo}}} and {{{motto}}} fields in Infobox school already. I think having both is quite common. I assume we can just add |slogan= into the example.
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One user keeps inserting a list of recent duxes at the school. The duxes and their ATAR/UAI scores are sourced. However, none of the duxes are individually notable; i.e., they'd all be redlinks if the names were linked.
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The notion of it taking too long to wade through the infobox options, is, IMO, not a very strong one for the reason I laid out above in regards to chaplains, and as it may give editors ideas on what other information to
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the ABS in discussing funding etc. (There's a ref for that in the Talk post). I note also that there are a number of WP articles about Aust. schools that use "government schools" rather than 'public'. For example, see
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I don't think that's a big deal. It's not of significance, probably changes with the principal's (or one of the admin. officers) whims and is just for advertising. I think it's not notable enough to include it in the
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AussieLegend's suggestion of a "feeder template" into school may well work. Alternatively, perhaps a "model blank" for infobox school within this wikiproject's space. A good example of such a model blank is at
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I'm done with you. With your smug sense of superiority you haven't contributed anything here besides nitpicking and constant negativity. There's no point accommodating and playing along with someone who makes
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school they have to navigate through and delete seemingly endless irrelevant fields, which they don't have to do when they use Infobox Aust school, because it contains only the fields relevant to Australia. --
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Yeah my alma mater had an "Executive Director" (who was the principal) and two "Principals" (who were vice principals). On the up side, my alma mater doesn't have an article - there's no way it'd be notable.
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I can't remember the last time I wrote a school article but would probably have copied an existing one including the template stuff. It'd be easy enough to make some boilerplate text in the documentation.
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Look, I don't care one way or the other. I've stated above that I like Infobox Australia school (but that might just be me being a little bit nationalistic), but I was swayed by the simple raw statistics.
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and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.
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Is there any reason to keep this list in the article, or should it be struck? Since that other user has refused to discuss that matter at the article's talk page, I'm seeking input from the project. —
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Aust school uses a field called "ranking". If there are any Australian schools that use this, conversion to Infobox school will result in "USNWR ranking" instead of "State ranking" being displayed.
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1) You missed the "may not" there. There are many many schools without commas in their enrolment numbers because they are below 1000, as I stated above. A consistent approach would leave them out.
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and both refer to VCE ranks. If it must exist, this data would be better placed in prose. I take it that there's agreement that we drop use of the fees parameter, as was initially proposed
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edit war. Interestingly, above you criticised my blank for using "school song" and that just happens to be a field in your blank, but that's just a side issue. --12:01, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
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I think that only the overall curriculum areas should have articles... Physics, Chemistry, Geology and Marine Science would go under science. So these would be the articles I would suggest:
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2)Also as I have pointed out to you on my talkpage, it is not an interpretation, it is a translation of the motto. I even included a citation, which you inappropriately removed, twice now.
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OK, so I waited and there was no reply. Then I glanced up at the dates of the previous traffic on this page and noticed that the dates are typically a year or so apart. Then I put on my
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parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present.
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Is that a response to the fact that you're being disruptive here or not? I mean your whole involvement with this situation started because I updated the infobox on an article which you
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Currently set at C-Class Low. A great deal of work has been done since the article was created, so can someone please take a look and see if this should be changed to Mid Importance?
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Having seen the Education in England template on the school year levels pages, wondered if we should have something similar to it for Australia? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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is a good example of what would happen if someone were actually looking for info on that school - they get nothing, not even anything vaguely related to the topic of their search.
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article which correctly redirects to a new "Education" section. I thought a separate section was needed as John Howard's kids went to this school and that is worth mentioning.--
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However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass
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you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here:
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I don't think that Australian schools should be ranked. Because there is no definitive way to rank them (HSC/VCE results? Merit list mentions? Median UAI? NAPLAN results on
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What you are suggesting overcomplicates the use of and the change to the infobox. If we really want to see what every field does, we can see the existing information at
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and, as I've already pointed out, an editor who started changing school articles to use Infobox school is what resulted in the TfD. We didn't pick up all of his changes.
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we have to provide guidance for all fields that may potentially be used, not just the fields that exist in Infobox Aust school and Infobox Australia school private. --
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as a line break in this example as it's XHTML compliant. TBH I haven't checked wikipedia for any coding complience but would seem to me to be a better practice ..
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and have identified a lot of misused fields. I envisage that once we've got all articles onto a single template we can rescan with AWB to fix any bad parameters. –
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because that's where people get the blank from. This is why I documented all of the fields that seem applicable, and yet there have been no comments on that at all.
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to their alert page. Your alert page should be located at "Knowledge (XXG):PROJECT-OR-TASKFORCE-HOMEPAGE/Article alerts". Questions and feedback should be left at
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A couple of stylistic points. AussieLegend should be doing this, but... Well I don't know why he isn't. There's some discussion on this point between he and I at
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there'll be more articles that school oriented editors (such as myself) have to keep an eye on for vandalism (and vandalism is a real issue for all schools);
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I can maybe see noting that one of them got a 99.3 on their ATAR/UAI, but a list of all the names going back to 2004 seems a bit excessive. Not only is
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I'm getting a sample blank together at the moment. I suggest, once everyone's happy with it, that we create a new section on the project page with a
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just a point of interest I see the template uses Deputy and Vice Principles options but some WA high schools are using the title Associate Principle
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anyway. In any case, there's no real content difference between the two templates. There's no reason to have several templates doing the same thing.
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Also, fees and tuition are in this template, and as I said above, I agree, IMO these should not be used with any Australian school lest we get into
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The regions in NSW haven't changed all that much (at least in living memory). So perhaps this is just a NSW only thing. What about others? -
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so I've marked both of your removals as vandalism and warned you on your talk page. There is simply no excuse for removing the citations. --
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interpretations of the meaning of my old school's motto as there are stars in the sky. Adding them in would seem to invite controversy. See
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No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to
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2) Remis means oar, Velis means Sail. So what you're doing is laying on a second layer of interpretation, no matter where you got it from.
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in use over here in the East to define teachers in charge of specific portfolios and/or faculties. For example, most NSW schools have a
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I did notice there are fields in Infobox school that we should be using, such as "alt" and others that would be nice, such as "logo". --
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that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.
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I worked closely with RBSC for quite a few years until earlier this year, so I want to be careful that I haven't tripped over any
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locality. Most school page creators are SPA and don't appear to follow guidelines very closely, if at all. Regular janitors at
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a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for
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We don't have districts here in Australia. In NSW, the DET is organised by Regions and Networks, for example, the Sydney Region
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So any changes that have to occur to the overarching template structure then have to be filtered down to each child template? -
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Since we've decided to eliminate rankings anyway this seems unnecessary and inconsistent. Looks like a TfD candidate to me. --
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What are the Australian-only fields in the template? From what I can see there's no difficulty with the proposal - looking at
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the replacement for AlertBot is now up and running with the school project as one of the prototypes. Over the past weeks the
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Would it be better to have articles on these, and to redirect non-notable primary schools there than to their locality? -
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templates did get lost and we got howls of protest from some quarters. Ranking probably should go the way of the dodo.
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Good faith edits are not vandalism. Requesting that you participate in discussion before reverting is not vandalism. -
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What is the source for this? There's some older urls in the comments but it needs to be both visible and current. –
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Re 1, AussieLegend's actually right here. If it's a list and you right-justify, you get rid of the problem anyway.
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format for any changes that are made during the present conversion. My blank doesn't contain all of the fields in
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subscription-based news delivery system designed to notify WikiProjects and Taskforces when articles are entering
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Can someone look over the page to see if we have bumped up the rating from the start-class that it currently is.
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I've started a discussion on what I feel is the overzealous removal of information regarding the house system at
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I've had a look through numerous articles and I think I have identified all, or at least most of, the fields in
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will be printed at Wikimania 2014, and the designs can be re-used in the future at other events and locations.
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I am suggesting that Curriculum sections should link to articles describing how particular subjects are taught
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issues. I'm also trying not to include any information that will require references that I simply don't have.
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Yikes... Yeah. I think that we need /just one/ for all Australian Primary and Secondary schools, preferably
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I can't remember when it happened (and I honestly don't care all that much as it wasn't notable), but when
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needs some sources pronto. I have protected it as there is edit warring but should be sourceable really...
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Since you provided no justification for removing the citations, it appears that you're deliberately being
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was never documented is what has resulted in the myriad inconsistencies that exist in the articles now. --
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indicate your interest in possibly attending the conference (this is not a binding commitment, of course)
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and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my
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I'm keen to start on Science... Anyone else (i.e., from another state) want to work together on a draft?
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I imagine that other states have similar organisational structures in their public and Catholic schools.
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Our first Australian conference for Wikipedians/Wikimedians will be held 3-5 October 2015. Organised by
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I saw that proposal.. I'm less keen to move everything to that template. I would much prefer to move to
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Catholic Schools in NSW are organised in a vaguely similar fashion. There's the Sydney Diocese Schools
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of them just in the last 20 years, rather than something with an enduring and institutional quality.
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pages for research institutes in Melbourne). If you happen to have a moment, feel free to check it.
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G'day Moondyne, I've updated the blank for the Australian schools slightly, and replaced your's at:
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I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to
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There's also Junior, Middle and Senior Principals, as well as Directors (WTF?). I've been using
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consensus, it's simply an error. There are likely many editors, especially inexperienced ones,
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Moondyne did some excellent legwork listing the articles that use the various templates here:
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so bloody arduous. Reply if you like, but I won't be acknowledging your posts henceforth. -
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Only school chaplain I'm aware of was recently charged for possessing child pornography. –
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I have fixed it up a bit. If you are really concerned you can watchlist, otherwise I have
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a concern, but because the people aren't otherwise notable, it could be a privacy issue.
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There's just two AU school articles which currently use ranking inside the infoboxes:
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affect many (primary) schools, but which aren't worthy of mention on a locality page.
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to all active wiki projects per request, Comments on the message and bot are welcome
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Moondyne's going to know more... But I'd suggest that the term is likely similar to
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I'm proposing to merge this and other inactive education-related wikiprojects to
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we might be crowding out the actual geographic detail from locality information;
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which we've smartened up and made more readable. Do check out also the use of
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My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London.
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Dear followers, I would appreciate more opinions on this issue (found here:
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regard the in-class health education and the out-of-class PE as linked.)
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None that I can see. There's a bucket load of alternative templates at
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to extend the reach of Knowledge (XXG) worldwide. Please help us, with
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Opinions on: External Link for Camberwell Grammar School's House Portal
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yr right. I'm sure I saw it somewhere though. My bad - its Friday! –
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For more information or to sign up for one for your project, go to:
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The term TAFE refers to technical and further education institutions
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for offline release on USB key, DVD and mobile phone. Articles were
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link from the couple of schools for which he now ostensibly works. -
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A very useful discussion on this subject, from 2019, is located at
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Agreed that it should go in prose, and it does for other articles (
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Talk:James Cook University#Controversy section proposals June 2021
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Talk:James Cook University#Controversy section proposals June 2021
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is a list of primary and secondary schools in Australia without a
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Just a thought - would it not be better to recommend <br /: -->
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Continuing self-promotion of the University of the Sunshine Coast
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Reassessment requested for Importance level on a C-class article
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WikiConfererence Australia 2015 - Save the date 3-5 October 2015
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Leaflet for Wikiproject Education in Australia at Wikimania 2014
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Oh, Template:Infobox secondary school is completely unnecessary.
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Thoughts on 'Private' vs 'Public' as a description of schools?
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I'd rather see a proper education section in the town article.
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I've removed a couple of paragraphs from this article, (diff:
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I think your blank is fine and am happy for it to be moved to
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with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's
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have a motto and a slogan. Was this discussed previously? –
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hasn't really changed much since you said that at the TfD. --
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Yeah, but if it's not notable, it shouldn't be there. Duh!--
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Current Notability guide is biased towards private schools
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Opinions sought at RfD related to this project: Super Tafe
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Hmmm. Yeah that's the alternative. But I think then that:
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has been vandalized repeatedly. Please keep an eye on it.
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This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from.
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It will work on a variety of links, including those from
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As part of that page, there are now sections for you to:
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I'd missed revenue and agree it should not be used. –
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Agree re: fees. I think I might have said that above.
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who don't realise that Australia has its own template
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we don't need most of the fields in that template. --
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an employee of the University of the Sunshine Coast
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Creative and performing arts education in Australia
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Americanisation of the Australian education system.
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That's allowed. - 5409:Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the 1139:Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions 5725:was approved and has been implemented to add a 3869:Catholic_Education_in_the_Diocese_of_Parramatta 1930:"Chief custodian" can always be added later. -- 1624:From this it seems that the practice is to use 1607:Template:Infobox Australia school private (265) 436:. We are also in the process of implementing a 196:does not require a rating on Knowledge (XXG)'s 27:and anything related to its purposes and tasks. 5296:Talk:Public_and_private_education_in_Australia 5185:Draft:La Trobe Institute for Molecular Science 4947:The deadline for submissions is 1st July 2014 4575:and would like others to comment if possible. 4452:User:Danjel/Mathematics_education_in_Australia 4355:User:Danjel/Mathematics_education_in_Australia 3761:is available for development and expansion. – 2644:mention in prose their achievement in the HSC) 279:. If you would like to participate, visit the 5887:NA-importance Education in Australia articles 5882:Project-Class Education in Australia articles 508: 8: 5567:39th most imported script on Knowledge (XXG) 5421:We have collected all of these questions at 4317:Insert Subject Here - education in Australia 2993:User_talk:AussieLegend#Newcastle_High_School 2478:Regardless of personal opinions, the fields 1115:For the Knowledge (XXG) 1.0 editorial team, 5892:WikiProject Education in Australia articles 5569:. The idea is that it takes something like 4846:Very good point. What can we do about it? 4296:User talk:Danjel/Rose Bay Secondary College 3000:MOS:NUM#Delimiting_.28grouping_of_digits.29 1914:I see that as a poor model to work from. – 1190:Is there a historical reason why the usual 5529:You are invited to join the discussion at 5271:You are invited to join the discussion at 4876: 4735:) has been given a rosy write-up by . . . 4415:Health and physical education in Australia 4364:User:Danjel/Science_education_in_Australia 3856:] and the enigmatically named "Network 8" 3644: 540: 515: 501: 493: 211: 5405:Request for information on WP1.0 web tool 3831:was deleted for favour of redirecting to 3634:User:Moondyne/Australia schools templates 1591:User:Moondyne/Australia_schools_templates 1255:User:Moondyne/Australia schools templates 1172:Template:Infobox Australia school private 5832:Merge of inactive education wikiprojects 5547:User script to detect unreliable sources 5490:Discussion about Controversy section in 5463:Discussion about Controversy section in 5192:La Trobe Institute for Molecular Science 5062:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject X/Newsletter 4563:Overzealous removal of information from 2453:I don't see key_people as useful at all. 5713:Project-independent quality assessments 4603:WP:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Schools 3951:Phillistines come looking for trouble. 3043:MOS:NUM#Delimiting (grouping of digits) 3031:MOS:NUM#Delimiting (grouping of digits) 2551:Template:Infobox Australian place/Blank 2161:Template:Infobox Australian place/Blank 1613:Template:Infobox secondary school (171) 1604:Template:Infobox Australia school (163) 1147:this project's listing in one big table 1078:We would like to ask you to review the 858:Special education in the United Kingdom 389:This is a notice to let you know about 213: 5766: 5726: 4380:Social Sciences education in Australia 4278:User:Danjel/Rose Bay Secondary College 4271:User:Danjel/Rose Bay Secondary College 3723: 3705: 3291: 3003:1000 students look awkward. 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Cheers. 2100:is the community consensus already. - 1176:Proposal to remove fees parameter at 289:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Australia 7: 5194:(loosely based on the format of the 3818:(on behalf of WikiProject Schools.) 2797:Penleigh and Essendon Grammar School 2747:Penleigh and Essendon Grammar School 2585:Penleigh and Essendon Grammar School 1223:Category:Education infobox templates 185: 183: 5425:where you can leave your response. 4324:Had an interesting discussion with 967:James Ruse Agricultural High School 961:James Ruse Agricultural High School 450:Knowledge (XXG) talk:Article alerts 202:It is of interest to the following 5719:Knowledge (XXG):Content assessment 5657:not a script to be mindlessly used 5446:nomenclature of Australian schools 5440:Nomenclature of Australian schools 5367:A new newsletter directory is out! 5347:nomenclature of Australian schools 4351:Mathematics education in Australia 4341:Mathematics education in Australia 4178:guidlelines in the parent project 3863:], the Broken Bay Diocese Schools 3823:Primary Schools and School Regions 3226:Which blank are we going to use? 2745:Looks good. 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