Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Elections and Referendums/Archive 23

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these removals was seeing constant changes to the "leader_since" parameters on elections in a few countries, almost always by IPs. And, from the same viewpoint, I strongly disagree that the leader's seat is useful in a substantial number of cases. I've written thousands of articles on elections and I would say there are less than ten where I can recall the leader's seat being key information. I would summarise the key information from an election (information which needs to be provided to summarise the election) as: Number of seats won, seat change, and head of government before and after the election, and secondary information of importance (being important context to the outcome) being party leaders, votes/percentages, swing and turnout. The two parameters we are discussing come nowhere near being important enough to include IMO.

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been insisting that they be displayed completely separately as a Map2, showing up underneath the county map with their own captions. I believe that doing this unnecessarily bloats the page and makes it harder to quickly compare the precinct and county maps. If two maps show the same information (i.e. the geographic distribution of votes at different levels), then I believe that they should use switchers. If two maps show related but different information (i.e. seats gained vs. vote share by district), then I believe that it is reasonable to keep the maps separate. I wish to reach out to the community, however, to reach a firm consensus before taking unilateral action. Please leave your thoughts below.

1710:, Yes - are echoing above users’ comments that have already been made above. A leader's seat is important and relevant - it's important to know whether or not a leader has won their own riding. If a leader does not win their riding, that is always a major news headline. It does not at all clutter an infobox. When you needlessly delete too much, it takes away the substance, and you’re left with nothing and virtually no information: no meat and just bones. Context is key, context is needed to give readers full grasp of the context of the situation and the event. This is an an online encyclopedia. 2360:

argument in this case. I think it could be much better-applied to different parameters that have not been touched, such as home_state and states_carried which are featured prominently in, for instance, US presidential elections, despite being nothing more than meaningless trivia. Leader's seat is important information in a substantial number of cases, and highly important in a few cases, and I think that justifies its retention. As for the complaint about time and effort necessary to discuss this on various pages, I'm sorry, but that's just the burden of consensus-building.

835:, I agree this is vital information that gives great context and I agree with what the other Yes users had said about relevance and the importance for showing since when a candidate has served as leader of their party and the convenient and informative link to a leadership contest which demonstrates how the individual became leader in the first place. Agree with the already said points that it does provide a quick and easy indication of how long leaders have served, and a convenient way to link to leadership election articles, which are often difficult to find elsewhere. 1901:- in practice, not that relevant or useful. The article is about an election, not about a party leader, and infoboxes have far too much space devoted to details about leaders. Yes, in some cases it might be notable - so put it in the lead. In the vast majority of cases, it isn't - in practice, party leaders work full time for the party and have little to do with their seats. Go and try to find one news organisation that always puts the party leader's seat in its election reporting breakdowns. You won't find one, because it's not that relevant. 1122:). This belief does not have to extend to every instance where the template is used, as the paramater is an optional aspect of the template, nor did an editor have to explicitly mention relevant PAGs to hold the belief. Because of the aforementioned optionality, I believe the onus lied on the 'no' voters to convince the community that the parameter contains key facts in a negligible proportion of articles such that it fails to satisfy INFOBOXPURPOSE. Based on my reading of the discussion, they were unsuccesful in this and thus there was 150:). This belief does not have to extend to every instance where the template is used, as the paramater is an optional aspect of the template, nor did an editor have to explicitly mention relevant PAGs to hold the belief. Because of the aforementioned optionality, I believe the onus lied on the 'no' voters to convince the community that the parameter contains key facts in a negligible proportion of articles such that it fails to satisfy INFOBOXPURPOSE. Based on my reading of the discussion, they were unsuccesful in this and thus there was 1922:, but not when he became leader. In parliamentary systems, when someone became leader looks to be important, with the district's importance depending if the chamber has been electing members solely per district for decades, or even centuries (e.g. UK). Generally, leaders under the parliamentary system are more important than legislative leaders in the presidential system, so I suppose both district and start date are important in parliamentary leaders, but again, this varies per country and even per chamber. 618:: Oftentimes these come with links to leadership election articles. It is a quick and convenient way to navigate to them without having to read through the text and discover if it is inside the text or not. The benefit of having these links to allow readers to see different articles if it interests them outweighs the potential for unsourced, unliked information to clutter up the box and leave a false impression of the party's leadership. It's an obvious benefit to readers to have those links. I feel that 246:– it’s certainly relevant how new a party leader is and there’s no need to have to make the reader scroll down to access that information. Additionally, for leaders whose leadership elections have Knowledge (XXG) articles, that “leader since” date has a hyperlink to the article on the leadership election where they were elected, allowing the reader to easily navigate from the article on an election to, the article on where the winner of the election became the leader of their party (such as the 2994: 2314:

infobox due to the deletion of the leader's seat parameter. I would encourage those who oppose the inclusion of these parameters to seek consensus for removal from the pages and series they take issue with, even on a mass scale, rather than brute-forcing the issue by deleting them site-wide without considering the full ramifications. This is what I did when removing the leader's seat and leader since parameters from German election pages. I also want to note the

3979: 31: 1727:– echoing above users' comments, even though not all systems warrant its inclusion (for example, in PR systems where leaders stand in large multi-member constituencies which may even be the same for multiple leaders, or in dualistic parliamentary systems where MPs can't be ministers at the same time), there are systems (e.g. the UK, Canada, Australia) where this information is considered important enough to fit into the "at a glance" view. 1918:. In some countries, what is important is which district/constituency the leader came from, sometimes, it's both the district and when that person started as leader, sometimes none of this is notable, or even none of it applies; sometimes this even depends on the electoral system per chamber. For example, in the U.S., and I guess most presidential systems where legislators are elected per district/place, where it came from is noted by 1748:, especially in the UK) and it plays no real role in the election — it doesn't trigger their resignation, they simply find a by-election to run in. It's been suggested that this parameter can indicate being unseated, but a) leaders are rarely unseated, so it's not doing anything most the time; and b) being such an unusual event, it will absolutely be in all election coverage, and can (and should) be addressed in prose to begin with. — 1234:– it’s key information in Westminster elections in particular, where representatives are considered representatives of their constituencies first (e.g. the British prime minister is also the representative for Richmond and often referenced as such). Any issues with poor sourcing in elections where the information’s truth isn’t obvious can easily be fixed by a reference in the article’s body, as alluded to above. 3439:, and therefore seems to always argue in favour of the smallest size possible if conceding to allowing images. I don't agree with that absolute minimum approach, in my view between 140x and 160px is a reasonable size for images in multiple party election infoboxes. As it happens, 160x is what's used on recent British, Canadian, German, Swedish, and Irish elections, without much controversy. 992:- not about a leader. Yes, in some cases it's interesting - it's useful to know that Boris Johnson only took power 5 months before the 2019 election... if so, put it in the lead. In most cases, it's not interesting or relevant. As I said on the other vote - try to find any news organisation that includes this information in its election core facts breakdowns. I don't think you will. 1561:

fact of the election. Further, it can help drive civic engagement for those who learn of a leader in their seat. Knowledge (XXG) is viewed by millions of people, not all who are politically active. Making things easier to access for more people is a good thing, even more so when it's a single line of information. Change for the sake of change is not necessarily a good thing.

2882:: I don't know the end result but there is a "yes" consensus developing on both. If allowed, future battles may be over content sourcing and likely instances of infobox use when not summarizing sourced content found in the body of the article. It would seem these would be things to try to solve in advance. I am sure someone will let me know if I missed something. -- 1460:- Again, echoing comments that have already been made above, including a leader's seat is relevant - it's important to know whether or not a leader has won their riding - does not clutter an infobox. Beyond that, this information has been included for well over a decade without any issue, and I see no compelling reason why it should be removed. It should be included. 664:: While I consider the leader_since parameter less essential than leaders_seat, I agree with Chessrat and MsCosmicAsh that it serves two important purposes: to provide a quick and easy indication of how long leaders have served, and a convenient way to link to leadership election articles, which can be surprisingly difficult to find elsewhere. 1649:, the leader is relevant because of their position within the party, not because of their constituency. In election debates and similar, they are presented as the national face of their party, not as a locally-specific representative. The situation where it becomes most relevant, where leaders lose their seat, is the exception, not the norm. 1578:: Essential for elections in for instance Westminster systems, where holding a seat in parliament is not only constitutionally important but also plays a determining factor in the tenability of leadership. A leader losing their seat almost always means a swift departure from their position, and in the cases where it does not, such as the 2401:

material in articles is to add a leader_gender infobox parameter. The same applies to lots and lots of facts about elections which are very occasionally relevant, like how long a party has existed or what ethnicity the leaders are. The best way to handle them, like leader's seats and tenure, is through prose when they are relevant.

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not stand without context in the same way as other parameters. If a candidate had only been a leader for a few months, and that's a fact established by due weight in the body of the article as a core part of the election, a sentence covering that in the lead is much more valuable than giving the tenure start dates of

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explaining and discussing the election. I would delete the bar chart and move the map from the overly large infobox to lower down. That all said, I’m not against the concept of bar charts. They can have a role in some cases, but I would urge a focus on prose and a reduction in redundant visualisations.

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It seems as though the original consensus that was reached on this issue was done so only with three or four users present in the December/Early January discussion with regards to removing Leaders Seat and Leader since parameters. As more users have become aware of the issue since the change, and the

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I think you missed the point – which was Thatcher being the first female PM, which you cannot tell from the name or photo. And as someone that lives in a country with FPTP system, it really isn't the case that party leaders are "foremost" considered a constituency representative – for example, I have

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The number of elections where the leader's seat is "very important" is a tiny proportion (I would hazard a guess that it is fractions of one percent). We should not have infobox parameters that are relevant so infrequently. As has been pointed out a few times above, if the leader losing their seat is

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party leader in the infobox. The same thing for when a party leader lost their seat. In cases where these facts were noteworthy enough to supposedly justify infobox inclusion, the valuable material should already be prominent in the lead and body of the article, and so removing the parameters is only

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That aside, why remove the "leader's seat", something which is actively relevant in election coverage, and keep, say, home states in presidential elections, which are significantly less relevant to the actual elections themselves? (Please do not misconstrue this as actually advocating for the removal

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If there is no need to have the "leader's seat" and "leader since" parameters since they're already included in the text, why not simply remove everything else that's already found in the text, such as party leaders, vote shares, and seat totals? If the goal is to eliminate redundancy, simply abolish

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Indeed, such as Mackenzie King, who lacked a seat and continued to serve as PM for a few months during the 1920s if I'm not mistaken. Christy Clark is another, more recent example. But both went on to immediately seek seats because in order to have any shred of credibility, or the perception of such,

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It has been brought to my attention that my close was insufficient at summarizing the consensus in the discussion. In essence, the divide between votes can be understood as whether an editor believed the parameter under discussion contained "key" facts that appear in the articles where this parameter

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The infobox is supposed to summarise key facts that appear throughout the article. In the case of the {{Infobox election}} template, the leader_since parameter should rather be mentioned in the body/lede of the article if this fact appears to be notable enough otherwise, it should be excluded from an

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about the election are very rare and do not mean that the appointment dates of every other party leader in question. When they are relevant, they are not self-explanatory. This is the kind of material which is significantly better dealt with in prose. If it's not already being dealt with in prose, it

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Actually now I'm unsure about creating a new infobox template, even one this small, since this doesn't really fit the usual election template (it's kind of similar to the legislative election infobox but for individual races). Now I'm probably just going to put the swing and trend maps alongside the

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Since that conversation hasn't had anything added to it since Wednesday, I'd say it has pretty much concluded. Since my maps are by county I don't think there's any good reason to remove them (the one on 2020 Pennsylvania was the most recent edit to not get reverted post-vandalism), the only thing I

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If we are talking about an info box - no. If we are talking about the mini biographies of the candidates on an election page, if it is verified, certainly that is appropriate, especially if they are endorsed or supported by a party. That said, in some US states, there is no party registration, so we

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I think the 1956 article does illustrate a common problem. In a fairly short article, it presents the results in tables twice, plus a geographical map of the results, plus the semicircle visualisation of seats won, plus finally the bar chart. This is massive overkill. What the article lacks is prose

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My point was that because I edit daily and have so many election articles on my watchlist, I saw a significant amount of disruption being caused by these parameters, hence originally proposing their removal. I am not saying that your opinion matters less, but that not having edited in the last three

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in such cases. So none of those examples you mention would be of much use to add. On the other hand, for example, in first-past-the-post parliamentary systems, a party leader is considered the representative for their constituency foremost and it isn’t convenient or necessary to expect the reader to

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I’ve noticed that this information was removed from the election infobox template. I would propose the reinstatement of that information because- In some elections, the seat is clearly relevant information, for example, in the British parliament, party leaders are considered representatives of their

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Running mate is relevant because there are countries other than the US that have vice presidents elected on the same ticket (for example: Brazil, Indonesia, Kenya, Bulgaria), and even for things like substitute Deputies in France. Home state is really only relevant for US presidential elections, and

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At this point these stupid maps are a meme on Twitter and I really don't find anything of knowledge value being added by uploading them on Knowledge (XXG). For those active over at Commons, they should question the knowledge value of these maps. Commons isn't an indefinite web hosting site for shit

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I know there are those who will disagree with me, but personally, I generally I would prefer de facto to be represented rather than de jure. If a politician is an active member of a political party, and the election is for a political office, then functioning they are securing that office for their

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article's lead notes that Thatcher became the UK's (and Europe's) first elected female head of government. There are in fact many elections—far more than in which the leader's seat is at all relevant—in which leaders' genders are relevant. But that doesn't mean that the best way to incorporate that

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How do you figure that, GoodDay? As an example, Danielle Smith in Alberta it's true didn't have a seat in the Assembly when she became premier, but convention dictates such leaders have to seek a seat at the earliest opportunity, which she did in a by-election. I can't think of a Canadian general

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It also provides context as to how that person became leader of their party. How a person got elected leader isn't necessarily going to be mentioned in every election article, so it's nice to have a link to an article which explains that. Leaders change from election to election. I don't expect the

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Recently I have been adding maps of county flips to US Presidential Election state pages (I have added them to every 2012-2020 Presidential election page for a state in which a county flipped during that year), and another user suggested I also add swing and/or trend maps by county to the pages as

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If material is placed in the infobox that is not mentioned in the body it should be a known exception. If not entered under an exception it is subjected to challenge thus removal. The same would apply to any material used in the body with no source and summarized in the infobox. Contested material

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It's not just about time spent discussing, it's about having to check and verify information that is regularly added to articles or changed without any sources. Perhaps because I have several thousand election articles on my watchlist I see this more than most, but the starting point of suggesting

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The previous discussions which saw the parameters moved were correct. Even where these details might contain information included in the article—which is infrequent—it's trivial compared to other details with infobox fields. Even in the cases that people are citing as valuable information, it does

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With regards to the "it is extremely helpful to know that Prime Minister Kim Campbell lost her seat in the 1993 Canadian federal election" point – this was addressed in the discussion, with the point being made that it should be mentioned in the article's introduction if it is an important detail.

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Then it should be stated and clarified in the infobox. It's a single line of information. And the infobox only includes major political parties, all of which have leaders who seek a seat in the HoC. If you're going to start citing the leaders of the Communist Party or the Christian Heritage Party,

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with regards to how to display secondary maps to represent the geographic distribution of votes in a state, be these precinct maps or congressional district maps. I believe that these maps should use switchers to allow readers to switch between the levels by clicking a button, but some users have

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where it becomes very important - in that case, the Premier lost her own riding and was forced to enter the Legislative Assembly via a by-election to keep her position. That piece of information, crucial to determining the outcome of the election re: the resulting Premier, is now missing from the

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There is debate to be had about the exact usefulness of certain parameters on a case by base or place by place basis, but a blanket deletion is not the solution. The leader's seat parameter is quite important for elections under systems such as Westminster where sitting in parliament is typically

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effectively it serves that purpose. And I believe that, without these two fields, infoboxes will be less useful to somebody who, as Chessrat suggests, wants to see at a glance how established party leaders are, or wants a link to their constituencies' pages to see how close or safe they typically

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The information is helpful to those who will come to an article for quick information. It has the potential to attract people to read the full article, even if it is only a handful of people. A leader's seat (e.g. if they lose it, or if they ran in a place and failed to win the election) is a key

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Surely if there’s conflict between editors over whether to include information, there should be a talk page discussion over whether to include it in that particular article, rather than a blanket presumption that the information isn’t useful? Besides, it’s better to include some information that

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Will do so in a week's time if there are no more comments and it hasn't been closed already (as it appears that me making that last message brought in a new comment today). And yes, I think it would be a perfectly reasonable rule to say that the information should only be included in the infobox

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I don't intend to make some impassioned argument. My tolerance of Wiki debates is pretty low. I will simply posit my two reasons. 1) I found such information to be useful and interesting in the infobox. 2) As really what we're talking about are parliamentary or legislative elections, and the

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as the information is not in the article. In articles where it has been included in the past, the information has rarely been referenced. Many parliamentary elections do not have individual constituency seats, and the parameter's existence led to it being improperly (IMO) used to add things like

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For what it's worth, I respect a point made by another editor that the 'leader since' parameter is often original research in things like local elections. I feel less strongly about the inclusion of this parameter than I do the 'leader's seat' one below. Nevertheless, where such information is

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is 130x. In my view, It should be one or the other for every German federal election infobox. Going through the chronology of a country' election, in my view, a user should be seeing roughly the same sized infobox throughout. I'm happy for the size of the images to reflect what the consensus of

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in the infobox for quick access. It plays a major factor if, for example, the seat they are currently serving is the one which they are seeking in that election, or if they were defeated in their attempt to enter or reenter the House. It is convenient to include this information in the infobox.

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For infoboxes with two images, stick to the default 150x (which is set in the infobox code). For infoboxes with three images, I prefer to reduce it to 130x to avoid making the infoboxes too wide. Anything over the default 150x is inappropriate IMO. Also somewhat disappointed to find my earlier

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The crux of the argument seems to be "this is not necessary in most cases, so it should be deleted". I agree with the first part, but not the second. As noted elsewhere, the idea that the information can simply be put in the lead section could be applied to anything. It's not in itself a good

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It's not practical to have to have hundreds of talk page discussions to determine on a case-by-case basis whether the information is appropriate, especially with the level of unsourced information that is usually added to these fields. And I couldn't disagree more with your last statement. As

2033:. This information should be considered on a case-by-case basis, not a broad stroke that deletes it all at once. While brevity is the goal, someone glancing at the wikiboxes of these articles are now taking away less information than before with a less complete picture, which would be against 2024:

I agree. This information was pretty useful overall, and offered a more whole summary of the article. Knowing the leader's seat and how long they've been leader are key facts for some elections (for example, it is extremely helpful to know that Prime Minister Kim Campbell lost her seat in the

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It is absolutely not "essential" – that description would probably only cover parties, seats won and government before/after. I would not even say it's in the second category of important context. At best it's a nice to have. Readers do not need this parameter to understand the outcome of the

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The purpose of Knowledge (XXG) is not to ease the convenience of a small number of very active editors in cleaning up information, though. It’s to provide information to readers. If there’s a widespread problem of editors introducing incorrect information to articles, the answer is not to

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well. My question is should I put those and the flip maps in their own infobox with a switcher to save space? I've been putting these maps in the Results section below the county tables, where there is already a list of flipped counties, and the infoboxes would be located there as well.

852:: In most cases it is irrelevant, and in cases where it is relevant, we should "write" it into the prose, like an actual "encyclopedia". If something is so obscure that it doesn't merit inclusion in article prose (which is like 95%+ articles today), it being on infobox is a violation of 3407:. Number 57 has reverted me several times recently over several articles, the vast majority of the time insisting the size of images in election infoboxes must be 130x because the previous versions of the article had image_size to 130x. When we discussed the matter on my talkpage ( 363:

as an example; the infobox has been in the article for a decade, with the main parties, their leaders and seats won, but no-one has ever considered it necessary to add the leader_since parameter. It's clearly not "essential" to the understanding of an election's outcome.

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violation (which will be at least 95% of articles from my experience), unfortunately it doesn't work like that. I've removed it from multiple articles over the years, and regularly see it being added back in – if the parameters exist, editors will try and fill them

1878:. Useful additional information to quickly gauge a party's performance in an election if a leader has lost or won their seat. It does not take up too much space and has been used without issue for a very long time. Furthermore, I'm not particularly concerned about 470:

I suppose on second-thoughts I might be open to agreeing to No as some of the more established editors here say they have constant problems maintaining some order with this parameter on certain articles. Sorry to ask for a retelling but can they explain further?

2855:. However, we have parameters for a reason. If there is content that is worthy and useful, even in only a handful of articles, it has value. There should be no reason (that I can think of) why there could not be "an exception" for articles within that criteria. 1991:

I’m starting this discussion because me (and many other users) might not have noticed the previous discussion until its results were implemented and the changes became clear, so I’m unconvinced there would actually be a wider consensus for the recent changes.

626:. Knowledge (XXG) is a place for people to easily acquire knowledge. the leader_since parameter is harmless, inobtrusive, and helpful to readers. I would be in favour of a rule that requires a link in the leader_since parameter. If a leadership election meets 2202:

I do think, regardless, that the discussion from the 2nd and 3rd completely fails to establish a consensus -- it should not take three or four people to make a change that affects hundreds of pages, especially when more than three or four people oppose this.

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It's been two weeks since there were last comments on either of these RfCs, and while there's differences in opinion it seems like a consensus certainly won't be reached in favour of the removal of the parameters, so would it be time to close the RfCs soon?

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limited amount of discussion that took place before these parameters were deleted; I don't think support from two people and the proposer is sufficient for such a change to a template used on tens of thousands of pages covering a diverse range of content.

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and avoid infobox bloat. In the rare cases where this information is important, it can go in the lead section. Generally, it is not a key part of the election. This is apparent from how little coverage some information generally gets in the article prose.

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With regards to this particular dispute, 160x looks much more visually pleasing and does not make the relevant infoboxes too wide. Agree that it's best to have a standard (as well as to have a standard on what dimensions images in infoboxes should be).

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election infoboxes should not have images (as it is inappropriate to give more visual weight to a party leader than the party), but images are appropriate for presidential/mayoral elections where people are voting directly for the individuals pictured.

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In this case I am in total agreement, since it is just an obvious repetition of information that is already being presented beforehand. If it were a bar chart on the seat share or some other crucial information, I would likely advocate for keeping it.

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I don't think that's rational or consistent. It can hardly be the case that we're playing "first user to edit image_size gets to dictate image_size forever". Wouldn't a consensus formed here on WikiProject Elections and Referendums be more sensible?

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Now, say a given unit (such as a county) had the Democratic Party candidate receive exactly 80% of the vote. Which way would the county be colored? Would it use the "70–80%" color? Or the "80–90%" color? The fact that the ultimate color is labeled :

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User(s) have clearly conflated convention votes and closed door deal making with actual primaries in overhauling the articles for early presidential primaries. As a result, they have created articles that need to be reconstructed to separate actual

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The gender of the leader is usually clear from the leader’s image and name, so I hardly think this is a relevant comparison. Ethnic group is broadly the same, and new parties can be seen by the fact the “Last election” parameter tends to just say

2029:, which we don't find out until three-fourths down the article text.) Likewise, in the very example you've highlighted, it would be helpful to know at a glance that Prime Minister Boris Johnson was only leader for a handful of months before the 1297:

I don't know how it is with other countries that have the westminster system. But in Canada, the prime minister doesn't have to be a member of the House of Commons & premiers don't have to be members of the legislatures. Although it helps.

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political party. This is even more so the case when there are multiple candidates who are members of political parties running in the election. To truly be a "non-partisan", you cannot simultaneously be an active member of a political party.

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of adding them back. They add relevant information, and I disagree with the notion that it clutters the infobox. At this rate we'll be removing Running Mate and Home state parameters simply because "it'll be found in the Article Summary".

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If "The less information contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose", would a completely empty infobox not therefore be the most effective? Of course not! There's a level at which, the less information an infobox contains, the

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This is not key information about an election (which I would say is limited to parties, leaders, seats, votes, percentages, swings, seat change, turnout, date and government before/after), and in the vast majority of cases, is contrary to

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This is even more relevant than the seat, as it easily shows if it's a new leader or a longer incumbent. Infoboxes shouldn't include this just because it's a parameter when less relevant, but I don't think it needs to be broadly excluded.

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it is so extremely rare for a candidate to win a county/precinct/etc with under 10% of the vote that making a discernible color for that case isn't worth it (since it forces the rest of the scheme to be over a narrower range of colors).

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As these parameters are relevant so infrequently, it is a waste of editors' time to have to start talk page discussions, or have to point out the discussions every time IPs/newbie editors try and add them in (if the parameters exist).

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violations. If a leader loses their seat, it should be mentioned in the article, but presumably any election article which involves individual seats will have a seat-by-seat breakdown either in the article or in a sub-page. ----

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Agree that this is not really consistent or clear here. I would tend towards using the higher scheme (if a candidate gets exactly 60% of the vote, then we use the 60–70% color). However, can see valid arguments against as well.

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Sure, opened below. I've tried to word it neutrally (rather than use words like "remove"/"reinstate". However, should the discussions end in no consensus, the result would be to revert to the status quo and add them back in.

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I am breaking my cardinal rule of not getting involved in Wiki debates, but I do feel compelled to make the obvious point that this was over 120 years ago. I am not sure what relevance it has for elections today in Canada.

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That's not what this discussion is about. The vast majority of election articles I edit are in the UK, so inappropriate use of leader_since and leader_seat are things I come across rather than home state and running mate.

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article to explicitly talk about how Thomas Mulcair replaced Layton or Singh replaced Mulcair, but the leader since parameter gives us the opportunity to find out and provide further context for the election article.

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I also wasn't involved in the previous discussion. I'm in favour of adding them back - both were useful and often relevant, and the in my opinion the infoboxes never looked cluttered. They're both worth including.

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Plenty, if any of the party leaders in the next Canadian federal election, aren't holding a seat or seeking a seat in the House of Commons. Yes, it's customary to hold or seek such a seat. But it's not mandatory.

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should not be in infobox anyway. This is not material which is typically included in election summaries in reliable sources which otherwise contain the level of detail we encompass in election article infoboxes.

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as the information is not in the article. In articles where it has been included in the past, the information has rarely been referenced, and is prone to being changed on a regular basis as there is no source to

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First off I had meant adding a completely new infobox to the results section, secondly I don't think anymore that the "info" part of the infobox is really necessary, I can just make it an image with a switcher.

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I strongly disagree the claim that party leaders "are considered representatives of their constituencies first" in Westminster systems. I had no idea which constituency Sunak represented until you mentioned it.

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Perhaps if there is not a consensus to remove, a compromise would be to reinstate the parameters, but to make an explicit rule that they can only be used when the information is in the article and sourced?

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constituency first and foremost. The length of time a party leader has been in power is also relevant, for instance in summarizing whether the PM/opposition leader is well established or just a new leader.

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an infobox, it has been included in the infobox for well over a decade and, in echoing Chessrat, provides a hyperlink to an article on the leadership election which they were elected. It is essential.

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a few years ago, in which there didn't seem to be anyone in favour of keeping them, so I wondered if we could get a definitive consensus to get rid of them? I just don't understand the point. Cheers,

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before), with more active editors generally in favour of removal. Is this because the less active editors don't tend to see the problems these parameters cause on their watchlists on a daily basis?

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geographical constituency they happen to represent is a key fact from the election that merits inclusion in the infobox. More or less the same I said in the above discussion and RfC apply here too.

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template is fully protected so requires an administrator to edit it– would you be able to reinstate the leader_since and leaders_seat parameters to it per the RfC closure result please? Thanks,

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parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present.

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So because we're less active, our opinions matter less? Being less active has no bearing on our understanding of the issue (Calling it a problem is a bit of a stretch, but you do you).

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Perhaps it doesn't need to be in every article just because it's a parameter, but I don't think it needs to be removed as this is relevant information that fits fine in the infobox.

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and avoid infobox bloat. I have edited many election articles and can never remember this information being covered in the main article text, ergo it shouldn't be in the infobox.

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If there is not a consensus to remove it, I hope we can at least agree that the parameter should only be used where the information is actually in the article (so not violating

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However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass

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My opinion hasn't changed since the previous discussion and I still think that this parameter should not be included in the infobox. Therefore, I'm against adding it back. --

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Done, and I have also updated the documentation to say these parameters should only be used when the information appears in the article. Bad news for my watchlist though...

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Finally, of course, the information had been included for many years with no issue, and there was no major need for removal (the infoboxes never looked excessively clunky).

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Reductio ad absurdum is rarely a good argument... And I'm quite literally quoting a guideline. Leaders' seats and their tenure are not 'key' information about an election.

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infobox features the party leader, noting the party leader's seat would seem to me to be of relevance. I am sure others will disagree, but that is simply my honest view.

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one needs a seat. But it is a de facto political necessity. But my argument still stands, having that info in the infobox helps provide context in a convenient manner.

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Protection is not a solution. And again, this information is rarely in the articles, particularly the leader since parameter, which makes it highly problematic from a

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I'm adding my ten cents that I found the information in the infobox to be quite useful and I wish for the parameters to be reinstated. I have nothing further to add.

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Merely pointing out, a Canadian prime minister doesn't have to be a member of the House of Commons. They can be a member of the Senate or neither Parliamentary house.

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in the "Articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing!

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the amount of "clutter" this adds is minimal. Where leaders represent often is relevant to elections and campaigns. Doesn't benefit our readers to remove this.

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Agree with switchers. Map2 makes the infoboxes too big. Either use switchers, or for maps that shouldn't be in the infobox, put them lower in the article.

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inconvenience readers by making all such information harder to find. Rather, the solution to high vandalism rates is and has always been page protection.

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consensus on the issue has changed, perhaps this should be brought to the Arbitration Committee to resolve. Whether either side likes it or not, there is

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If everyone is an independent, then I don't think it needs mentioning (although it could just be said somewhere that all candidates were independents).

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mentioned “leader since” date and hyperlinks, also "links to leadership election articles", and these would be aids to navigation, and of course, some

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remain 130x for simply that reason. Conversely, Number 57 said if the previous image_size was was 160x, then the CSS cropped version should be 160x.

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In a lot of election articles, results maps in infoboxes will have accompanying legends. Here is one such example of something you might find (see

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What do reliable sources do? If reliable sources mention a candidate's partisan affiliation, so should we. If they don't, then clearly we can't.

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necessary to hold a leadership position. In those cases, a leader winning or losing their seat is significant. There are also cases such as the

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from the infobox template. However, this does not mean that the parameter must or should be used in every instance where the template is used.

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from the infobox template. However, this does not mean that the parameter must or should be used in every instance where the template is used.

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And neither of them contested an election as leader, and thus you won't find them in an infobox. Being in the Senate was part of the problem.

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article. While this parameter existed, it was (in most cases) unverified in the body or not backed up by a source, which is also a problem. --

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include it in that infobox. At this rate we might as well just include the Parties and the seats, and scrap everything else from the infobox.

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No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to

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The issue with your point is that the information is very rarely in the article to scroll down to, which makes it not only a violation of

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90% and not ≥90% might imply the former, but if so, we should be saying as much. This method of using ranges with dashes instead of : -->

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This would clutter the infobox; adding things to infoboxes has always been contentious on Knowledge (XXG). I'd recommend against this.

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size of the images. That said, Number 57 has made it clear in other comments they do not believe infoboxes should ever have images

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from closed-door state party conventions and other ways that were used instead of primaries and open caucuses to determine votes.

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Because I'm actually curious, do you think including Home State and Running Mate is relevant information in an election infobox?

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important, it should be mentioned prominently in the introduction. The infobox is not necessarily the place to convey that fact.

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We are getting too far on what maps are added to US election articles, the latest being "Results by Catholic Diocese" at

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think this infobox might violate is the infobox purpose rules, but I'll need to read them in full to see exactly why.

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comments misrepresented in several ways; for example I did not say "infoboxes should ever have images at all". I said

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Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Elections and Referendums/Archive 22#Use of "Nonpartisan" in nonpartisan elections

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WikiProject Elections and Referendums is; ultimately I'm more concerned with consistency between infobox than the

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Arbcom doesn't deal with content disputes, only editor(s) behaviour. What might be done? Open a RFC on the topic.

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Party leaders in some jurisdictions tend to need to represent a geographical constituency. That doesn't mean that

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and avoid infobox bloat. In the rare cases where this information is important, it can go in the lead section.

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no idea which constituency Rishi Sunak represents (because it's not really important in the scheme of things).

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Should a candidate's partisan affiliation be mentioned in an article if the election itself is non-partisan?--

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violation, but the information is actually generally detailed further down in the article (see, for example,

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I think a county's election infoboxes should be the same image size all way through. For example, currently

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have a leader_since parameter (for parliamentary elections) for the date when a party leader took office?

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I usually make sure the infobox is 300px wide or less. So that's 100px or less for 3 columns of photos.

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What I've said in the RfC above also applies to this parameter too. This is not needed in an infobox. --

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and others. It is exceedingly rare that this information is of supreme importance. We should follow

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election, federal or provincial, where a party leader didn't have a seat or wasn't seeking a seat.

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I would depict 80.0% as 80-90%. Reason being that all those numbers have the same leading digit.

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itself if it is mentioned and cited within the rest of the article, so we're in agreement there.

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have a leader's_seat parameter (for parliamentary elections) for the seat held by party leaders?

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Unless a known exception, information should not be placed in the infobox (sourced or not) that

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This depends, and should be decided per country or even chamber, with status quo being preferred

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None of the candidates are party nominees so, in terms of the election, there are no parties.--

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or ≥ signs may be well-intentioned, but I'm not sure it's actually a great way to go about it.

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of the two general elections in Italy, is being held. You are all invited to participate. --

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In Westminster systems it is entirely reasonable to give that much weight to a party leader

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This is unrelated, but the legend is missing a colour for 0–10% to match the 90%+ colour. —

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If it is "essential", why has it never been included in so many elections' infoboxes? Take

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I'm imagining something like this, with the title on top and maps with a switcher below.

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flip map with a switcher. I don't think that clashes with what anyone has said above.

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scroll down through a large amount of prose to find wherever said seat is mentioned.

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says, "The less information contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose".

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as removal would be maintenance. The onus would be on someone wanting inclusion per

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There has been a large amount of edit warring occurring on statewide pages for the

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Number 57 & Chessrat, recommend you both jointly open an RFC on this matter.

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and a half years, you're unlikely to have the same experience of what goes on.

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verifiable, I find its inclusion in the infobox to be interesting and useful.

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The use of infoboxes is neither required nor prohibited for any article.

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of course, for the same reasons as Chessrat and others have brought up.

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There is consensus in favor of including the leader_since parameter. —

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That seems reasonable. I don't think it'll be settled in this manner.

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Wasn't there a discussion held on this weeks ago, the result being to

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Basically just a duplicate of what is already being discussed above.

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Elections on primaries are supposed to be about, well, primaries.

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to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article

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One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

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found in the body of the article. It's quite simple needing zero

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Agreed. I'm not too sure how it's done, but it should be done.

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https://twitter.com/Charlie__Brewer/status/1645911810187624448

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comes to a conclusion. Feel free chime in if you would like.

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A reoccurring issue has been cropping up between myself and

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in the vast majority of cases, but also problematic from a

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of the "home state" row; I simply wish to point this out.)

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Swing, trend and flip maps for US states in own infobox?

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has existed for well over a decade without any issue.

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