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references in citation order in the Notes section, and then again in alphabetical order in the References section. This is, frankly, awful, but it's what we have. Knowledge's technology is still struggling to keep up. In small articles (which is what almost all of the Greyhawk articles are) this is not required. We will typically have something like a module, whe the References section will list the module and perhaps a re-printing as a general reference for the whole article, or we will have an article for something like a deity where sources come from all over the canon. In cases like that, we'll proably want to stick to inline, new-style references, as there aren't any references that cover the whole article anyway.

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expansion). As for placing the least authoritative references first, I believe this is countered by having the notes section before references, as well as by having links to those footnotes in the article's text. You'll note that many academic works will have both foot/endnotes & a bibliography, which is essentially what the references section on Knowledge is. Honestly, it would probably be better if all reference sections were relabeled as "Bibliography", but then thousands of articles would have to be changed.--Robbstrd 01:00, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

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have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at

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should be listed want to go over someone else's work to determine exactly which source the information came from. I'm afraid insisting all references be in "cite-form" would turn people off from adding them at all, whereas "bibliography-form" would be more acceptable to many people. Let me clarify that I'm not against using the "cite-form" entirely, only that I think that those who wish to cite instead do it under a "Notes" section.--

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consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you.

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creating an article for the franchise as a jump off point for the children of it; or the creation of a new templating system for media franchise articles. The project primarily focuses on multimedia franchises. It would be great if some of this project's participants would come over and help the project get back on solid footing. Also, if you know of similar projects which have not received this, let

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politics and personages, not the geography. We know trees from EGG, and we tend to have a bit of geography in some of the moudles and sourcebooks, but there's nothing when compared to the detail on political aliances, betrayals, wars, etc. With fiction, you have a limited amount of source material, and we should at least have the

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You can always mark it with a spoiler tag. As for the issue of canon or not, this is a complex question. I think it would be fair to note that the character was killed in such and such a novel within the confines of a spoiler section, without attempting to determine if that fact is "canon" or not.

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seems to be a direct reflection of events from Dave Arneson's Blackmoor campaign, including the general physical setting (swampy northern region), the 'Egg of Coot', etc. (if I'm not mistaken, the Lendore Isles also appears for similar reasons, as that was the setting of Len Lakofka's home campaign).

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Good question. You may want to solicit advice from the various Greyhawk messageboards, newsgroups, & listservs out there, such as GREYtalk, the Canonfire! boards, the Greyhawk boards at Wizards.com, the Living Greyhawk newsgroup for the Bandit Kingdoms (I don't think Tenh has one, but perhaps the

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Encyclopedia Greyhawkia is a great reference, but it wasn't originally developed by the Onnwal LG triad. I downloaded a version off the net somewhere many moons ago, but I can't remember where. Does Iquander or anyone else have a correct reference for this so if we use it as a source we can put the

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campaign" is the way to go. I'd hate to see LG developments passed off as "official" published campaign developments, though. For instance, I understand that Nyrond, Keoland, and a bunch of other places have new leaders due to events in LG modules. Since those adventures are not widely distributed, I

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I can understand the reasoning behind merging Baklunish Basin into other articles, even though I personally feel every Greyhawk subject should have it's own article (yeah, I know--I can go a bit overboard:). As for what to include geographically, I think anything that has it's own entry in one of the

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I realize that I am more obsessed than most people (by necessity) with the accepted D&D style guides, but I think we should probably write role-playing as one word, "roleplaying," as TSR and Wizards of the Coast do. I know that's really minor, but in all cases I think we should err on the side of

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needs some help from other projects which are similar. Media franchises' scope deals primarily with the coordination of articles within the hundreds if not thousands of media franchises which exist. Sometimes a franchise might just need color coordination of the various templates used; it could mean

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I believe some redirects are needed, but not as an absolute. I need to find my map set. Instead of one article for every facet of an area, we could have one for an area, with subsections covering the major cities, etc. I am just not sure what items have enough information to warrent an article about

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material and references into articles where appropriate? When I learned to play D&D some 25 years ago, Greyhawk was the "default" (i.e., only) published campaign out there, so I have some familiarity with the setting in and of itself. But I was reintroduced to it via the RPGA's Living Greyhawk

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However, when it comes to Empire of the Bright Lands vs Bright Desert (just for an example), I think we should seek to cover geography and political divisions in the smallest number of articles. This isn't because both aren't important, but because most of the information about greyhawk is about the

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This page was created automatically with a template, hence all the different sections. I've already deleted ("title"), added, & renamed a few, as I felt that would better suit our purposes. Does anyone have proposals for futher deletion, addition, or renaming? I'm thinking of deleting several of

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I think it's better to have both notes & refs for two reasons: 1) more uniformity; & 2) the possibility that someone will come along and expand the article further, including adding more references that might not be cited in the article, but are relevant nonetheless (particularly for future

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By themselves these articles are lacking in sources that point to their notability, but together they present a much stronger article. Plus each product is in a sense an update of the product before it. So there is the continuity in one article. There is also precedent for this with the Player’s

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I've closed the afd as no consensus for deletion period was made, although I've left the option for discussion on where or whether or not it will be redirected, though the arguments for redirecting were stronger. I've left the article untouched for now, in case if any merging is necessary when the

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Members of this project may want to begin the cleanup that will inevitably be necessary as many of the articles related to this project will likely be receiving various tags. I think that an editor will likely be systematically going through the categories tagging articles for notability, lack of

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Sounds reasonable to me as well; for those entires I have already made, I will start moving all things "Living" to a separate section. While I was here, I thought I would point out a resource that might prove helpful when tracking down citations. The Onnwal region has posted on its site a rather

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proposal for an appreciation week to end on Knowledge Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who

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I think Arneson's Blackmoor campaign should be mentioned in "Creative origins," & a link to the page under "See also" should also be there. As far as I see it, "Creative origins" should be used to describe any real-world origins or circumstances involved in the creation of the subject or it's

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Generally speaking I would agree with Robbstrd. LG references should be appropriately sourced, so it is clear where the "new" information comes from. If there is a discrepancy between an LG resource and a non-LG resource, that can be noted right in the text of the article. Certainly I wouldn't

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are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please

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What about a breakdown similar to the way the LGG (and/or the Gazetteer) does things? I.e., one article for "Forests", one for "Mountains", one for "Hills and Highlands", etc. Most entries within a particular terrain type would be very short (one paragraph), but could still allow for a separate

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I think it would be bad practice to start using 2 forms of referencing in GH articles, which is why I advocate adding a "Notes" section. Not everyone who writes GH articles is going to take the trouble to cite everything they use when writing an article, nor does everyone who thinks a reference

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tag exists for this reason. However, there's currently no reasonable way to integrate auto-generated references from footnotes with general references that are simply placed in the References section. Because of this, large, featured articles have these sections in duplicate, listing all of the

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section to the other articles I had already posted/edited; I've changed the Yeomanry article to match. "Heraldry" seems to me a more appropriate sub-section title, as it can encompass not only the coat of arms, but other marks of recognition as well -- flags, for example, or badges of office

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Just wanted to let you guys know, the recent issue of Dragon Mag (Oct. 2006 - Issue # 348 has a lengthy article on Vecna by Sean Reynolds and Samuel Weiss). Would have left this comment on the Vecna discussion page, but I've never edited Knowledge and couldn't figure out the right place.

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require cleanup, as they have issues with notability, in universe perspective and do not have any footnotes to verify their primary sources. I would recomend deletion, as I have searched for reliable secondary sources and found none. If anyone has an alternative proposal, do let me know.

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In addition, the list of deities that make up the Oeridian pantheon also may require cleanup or merger. Please be advised that unless notability of these fictional characters, events and places can be evidenced by independent secondary sources, these articles are potential canidates for

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have their own entries? In general, I would advocate improving articles rather than merging them. Perhaps we could start a section on the project page listing articles needing improvement? We could give them a certain number of days, & if not improved within that time, they could be

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Hey, it just occurred to me that the book Lost Worlds by Lawrence Schick has secondary source references for every D&D module up to about the middle of second edition. Editors looking to address notability concerns regarding these modules would do well to consult that source.

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Currently, 304 articles are assigned to this project, of which 198, or 65.1%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 14 July 2008.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See

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should not be merged (but, of course will likely need some more sources). Why am I doing this? Well, these have been recently tagged for notability concerns and lack of references. I generally agree that they don' satisfy Knowledge's requirements. Any thoughts?

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All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. —

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Many game modules have been marked with notability tags. I thought that I should mention that I have recently (entirely by accident) stumbled across some of the legal document regarding a 1992 lawsuit between TSR and Game Designers' Worskhop regarding their

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Since I haven't run across any Greyhawk articles that have this section yet (perhaps I'm hitting the wrong ones!), what is appropriate usage? I was thinking about this while updating the Blackmoor page, in that much of the Blackmoor history described in the

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may make sense for some of the geographic features and minor characters. I don't see any glaring problems here that require immediate action, but might be a good idea for us to keep the suggestion in mind as we go forward with the project.

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In which contexts are which images allowed to be used? Can the heraldry be used in a box on a region page? Can an image of a famous NPC be used on his or her page? Are all of them under copywrite? I am looking for a definitive answer.

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where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention.

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for franchise articles. Since this may affect one or more articles in your project, we would like to get the opinions of all related projects before implimenting any sweeping changes. Please come and help us decide. Thanks!

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In any case, I don't see a need to have a Notes section UNLESS you mix the two types of references, and that should almost never happen. Instead, we can either write a References section manually or auto-popluate it using

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Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now put the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you.

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for more information. Someone once tried using the WotC holy symbol images for the deity articles, but that isn't considered fair use. To be safe, I'd just stick to images of products, such as book & magazine

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As far Greyhawk goes, events in novels are rarely regarded as canon. IMO, rather than placing Eclavdra's death under a "Trivia" header, I think novel events would be better placed under a "Subject in other media"

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At some point, we will probably want some structure/style subpages for different categories of article, such as "Greyhawk places," "Greyhawk deities," "Greyhawk magical items," & "Greyhawk characters."--

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for some other links. Seems like this can be used to help argue for notability of these game modules/other books as they were specifically named in this lawsuit as sources for the "derivative" works of

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Since you and I clearly don't agree (which is fine, and I respect that), we should probably fall back to Knowledge policy, which is more along the lines of what you suggest. Notes should contain the

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The Encyclopedia Greyhawkania is the work of former GREYtalker Jason Zavoda. Though by no means a complete index (it's missing a few minor sources), it's far and above the best one we have.--

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I've added a sub-section on new style references with some examples. Feel free to update, alter, expand or remove. It's really just a suggestion based on emerging practices Knowledge-wide. -

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I would recomend that WikiProject Greyhawk adopt a more rigorous guideline for the creation of articles, such as those adopted by WikiProject Video games. I suggest that you make a copy of

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has been covering most of its articles, I was wondering if there would be any opposition against making this project into a work/task force of the D&D project. Please add comments at

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three main Greyhawk campaign setting products (the 1983 boxed set, From the Ashes, & the LGG) should have its own article. This would include all nations, as well as places like the

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I have been waiting for input from other members of Wikiproject Greyhawk, but if it is lacking, I will be using my best judgement to resolve this issue before we are flooded with AfDs.

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Is anyone else on the project familiar with heraldry? In trying to describe the marshalling for both Grosskopf's (from the Bandit Kingdoms) and the Duchy of Tenh's coats of arms shown

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Should we include information from the novels, such as the death of a certain drow in Against the Giants? I added that as trivia on the Against the Giants article and Eclavdra article.

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It looks great, but the only thing I'm worried about is that the image may not be considered fair use. A number of FR deity symbols were recently removed for the same reason (see

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If I understand this correctly, this method essentially footnotes references. This would be better served under a "Notes" section, since "References" should be alphabetical.--

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There we go. How's that. Closest castle image I could find to the old Castle Greyhawk image that's being re-done for the cover of Expedition to Castle Greyhawk next year. -

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unless it gets a bit more content. I've added a sentence or two, but it would be great if one of you enthusiasts would expand the article! I've written the same at

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Since the nation entries are modeled after the CIA World Factbook, I'd put the "Coat of Arms" description as the last subsection under the "Government" section.--

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Depends on the context in which they are used. If you're unsure whether using an image falls under fair use, it's probably best not to use it at all.--

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would mention not only that it's a re-spelling of "Ernest," but also that the character was a PC of EGG's son, Ernie Gygax, in EGG's home campaign.--

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is a political state ..." paragraph, but I was wondering whether it might be more appropriate in another location, such as under "Government"? --

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article (for example) include a brief synopsis of the relationship between Gygax's and Arneson's campaign, with appropriate links (e.g., to the

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campaign, so a lot of my current knowledge is from the campaign's elaboration on the original materials. When I have entered data (such as the

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I have started to add each country's coat of arms (not an image, but my best assessment of the blazoning) to the matching article (see

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You're correct, of course. Silly of me. Let me think about it. I'm sure I can come up with an image that's reasonable copyright wise

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under copywrite? Should wikipedia articles be image-free for that reason? Are there any fair-use images available for articles?

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they include lists of references or external links but article sources remain unclear because they lack in-text citations; and

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is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing

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I created a template to add at the top of the talk pages of all GH articles. I based it on a similar template used at the

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He wasn't kidding about a small sample. Please visit RPGproject for a current discussion regarding recent happenings.

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is suggesting various redirects, so I will let the discussion on that continue on the appropriates articles or here.

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Hi. An IP address, whose other edits have not all been in keeping with our standards recently added some content (

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as an example). I have been adding it as a separate sentence/paragraph immediately after the opening "In the WOG,

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and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at

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If you are not currently a project participant and wish to help you may still participate in the project. This

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Otherwise, it should typically be merged into the next higher-scope article that does have its own page (e.g.

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conditionally. I think that it should be merged into two articles, but one of them doesn't exist yet:

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In case you are wondering, I got the background color from one of my favorite Greyhawk module covers:

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This would help with all the AfDs we have been getting of late by making one, much stronger article.

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I think that, where appropriate, each Greyhawk article should have a section titled "Subject in the

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I would like to call the attention of members of this project to the recently revised guideline at

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what is accepted practice for the publishers of the game. Yeah, I'm anal. Welcome to my life. :) --

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article if the geographical feature warrants it (such at the Nyr Dyv or the Bright Desert). --

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think it best (at present) to relegate these developments to a special LG-specific section. --

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I think there's similar talk over at the RPG Wikiproject. I really don't care either way. The

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I would encourage members of this project to have a look at these articles, and see whether

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there are currently about 170 articles in the scope of this project which are tagged with

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Without seeing the change you made to the article on the Yeomanry, I had started to add a

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campaign" or the like. All articles concerning Greyhawk should default to the Greyhawk

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I wish that AfD had been mentioned here, I would have voted. Still, I would have voted

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would mention that the nation is named after Jeff Perren, while the Co section for

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survived its recent AFD, but I do think that Pablo-flores' "Closing Comment" here

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The lack of guidelines means that many Greyhawk articles appear to have been

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Let's step back a bit. References is the section in which References go. The

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article. It occurs to me that it might better if it was merged into the

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Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of

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want to see separate articles on the same subject for Greyhawk and LG.

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associated with particular groups within a political state's control.

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those at the bottom. We can re-add them later, if we feel the need.--

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article doesn't. The former article should probably be moved to

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Hallo, I know nothing about Greyhawk but was helping out at

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