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These are valid issues for dealing with suspected paid advocates generally. I was thinking of something much more specific. For example, someone could create a bot or other software that would identify accounts with contribution histories similar to Petenice666. If there were clear similarities among
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Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Knowledge struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for
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currently say that promotion and advocacy are prohibited. In many cases though, it's suspected that editors are undisclosed paid editors, but are not explicitly advocating for them or promoting them. I suggest that we change the wording accordingly, to make it clear that it undisclosed paid editing
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Oh yes, definitely still a huge problem, no question. It's just that the fights about what to do about paid editing have settled down since the TOS were changed, and there haven't been any unusually big scandals recently. In any case, thanks for the alert about Earflaps. I hadn't heard about that.
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People who actively favor the presence of promotional editing, on various grounds; some welcome the skills in writing and formatting and referencing etc. that professional PR operatives bring, some are libertarians who believe commercial activity is by definition almost always beneficial, some are
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What do we propose? We will take you and your business truly global with a place on the worldā€™s largest online encyclopedia, taking you instantly to the top of your league! It might look like a simple page on Knowledge but here is what you really need to know to understand the real power of Wiki.
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Our website provides a "Critic Score" for Bollywood movies. We are looking for someone to update the Knowledge pages of some recent Bollywood movies with a reference to our website and the score our website provides (like Rotten Tomatoes). We believe this score would be a very informative tool to
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I don't think that going back to "Paid Editing Watch" is good because "Paid Editing" is too broad and can be taken to include GLAM grants and Dear Old Professor Smith who is editing in his field of expertise during normal work hours and so is arguably technically being "paid" to edit (believe me,
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1. Knowledge is the largest and most popular general reference work on the Internet. 2. It is ranked the fifth-most popular website. 3. It comprises more than 40 million articles in 299 different languages. 4. The encyclopedia has 18 billion page views and nearly 500 million unique visitors each
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needs a new name. I originally named this project "Paid Editing Watch" because that's far more accurate, but since that other project went all markety with "Cooperation" I moved to "Integrity" because what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. However, both names are poor, and we should
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is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating
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for Petenice666 is quite troubling and I'm curious if anyone has seen anything like this. The account was opened in 2006 and had 10 innocuous edits. It was next used in 2016 to make a handful of edits that appear to be promotional and likely paid. (If you're confused as to why these edits are
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Right. It's difficult. One problem -- not the only one and not the main one -- is that if I found an account under the name "Petenice666" on a bulletin board soliciting Knowledge work or whatever, I couldn't say that here -- that other account might lead to the actual real life identity of
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where the authors, fooled by the name, stuck Knowledge:WikiProject Cooperation in with Knowledge:WikiProject Editor Retention and so on. This sort of confusion is not helpful to anybody, so even though neither project is very active I'm going to ask the community to change the names of
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In the digital age, businesses, actors, writers, singers and everyone else who wants to be popular have teams working for them to strategize and manage their content and reputation over the internet. We believe itā€™s time you took a step in the same direction to get the fire started.
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Brianhe is right. There are still many editors watching this page and participating in the project informally or indirectly. I believe the paid editing wars have settled down over the last year or two, which is why there hasn't been much activity here.
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Isn't there some way that we could contact people trying to advertise through Elance and connect them with some relevant Knowledge project page where they can properly be told that an article on their non-notable business will not survive here?
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the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please
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I would like to purchase a number of established (100 or more contributions) and aged (more than 3 months old) Knowledge accounts. The price will be determined based on the account quality. Only English language Knowledge is of
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People of the "focus on the edit, not the editor" faction (what I call the "we don't need smoke alarms, just lots of hoses" faction). These are opposed in principle to tracking accounts and looking for patterns.
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Well I just learned about it right now. Rather than "publish" it, the best course might have been to work on it in user page. I am not sure I would be too helpful as I don't work on medical articles very much.
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the essay is certainly open to edit suggestions and your input would be greatly appreciated, which is pretty much the invitation I extended to all editors during the development stages of the essay.
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Hmmm. A bot is possible, but I don't know how to write one. I don't know as sleeper accounts are that big of a problem. Maybe they are. I haven't seen this myself. It seems kind of odd. The basic
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is a subject for advertising and promotion. Today I have cleaned it out again. But what me really worries is their reply on my talk page where they admit to use it for advertising and announce to
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Or something else if there's something better. I like the first, they're about equal really. Normally this would be a Requested Move but I'm thinking of initiating an ] for a bigger audience.
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Generating the right type and amount of exposure for yourself or your business is not just a matter of fate or chance but rather a focused and calculated work of digital sciences.
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Most people would forget about acount after ten (!) years I would think. This fellow is unusually organized. I honestly don't know what his deal is. Now I'm curious. I'll ask him.
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Received this today via email; Not sure where to alert someone, but certainly appears to compromise Wiki Integrity. Maybe someone wants to monitor content from their IP range
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promotional in nature, please ping me and I'll explain.) Does anyone agree with me that this seems to be a "sleeper" account and the account was created long ago to clear the
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some people on there, i am pretty sure are doing undisclosed paid editing, and some don't have any explict disclosure of employer/client/affiliation that i have seen.
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We are having disputes with Knowledge and want our pages deleted . Need someone with success in Knowledge, editing and getting things removed, and sticking.The ad is
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determine how critically liked an Indian movie is. We have a list of 100 Knowledge pages we need updating. There only needs to be a single reference on each page.
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Okay account already gone. We need to regularly police Elance and other similar sites to have them take down accounts involved in work that contravenes our TOU.
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I've been looking for a wikiproject that covers articles like this, and this one seems good, although there doesn't seem to be many people or many edits on it.
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I think it would be far more useful to focus on one particular thing rather than taking a broad-brush approach. For example "MEDRS and how it can be abused."
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We are not saying that this is all youā€™ll ever need to go from common to ā€˜famously knownā€™ but this will surely be the smartest first step towards it.
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Is anyone aware of any past or current discussions about Russians potentially engaging in government-sponsored disinformation on Knowledge?
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Do you think Gangnam Style, Justin Bieber and Adele went viral based on just the quality of their work? Youā€™d be wrong if you thought so!
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Yes people will create a few dozen accounts and than have them ready to go when work comes in. Often it is one IP, one account, one job.
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this confuses people, and of course for others its a useful red herring to obfuscate the issues). So I'm suggesting one of these two:
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Edits are copyright infringement. Blocked the user in question while things are clarified. Let me know if their are further issues.
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Agree to take down accounts involved in undisclosed paid editing. All one needs to do is notify them. Will go through a bunch soon.
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Bigger problem (IMO) is the existence of a couple groups which which are, basically, opposed to do doing anything to prevent this:
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them then we could even open SPIs. None of this would require outing or participating by those who oppose this WikiProject. --
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No they're not. I rememeber there was a discussion about it and for som reason it was decided that they shouldn't be added.
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enthusiastic inclusionists (much commercial editing is creating new articles), some are just naive, and who knows what else.
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Yes we could create accounts on these sites and pick up the jobs in question to inform people that they will not survive.
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You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that
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it is out of date, and includes people who have been indefinitely blocked for socking or PROMO or who are not active
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Petenice666, and its (arguably) not allowed to do anything that might lead to someone's identity being revealed, per
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requirement (needed to create articles etc.) is just being four days old and have made at least 10 edits. For
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The essay has undergone dramatic changes. Involved collaborators in the new edition include Atsme (author),
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Your Sincerely, David Wilson Senior Consultant Wiki Sharks Inc 4330 Clarence Court Fayetteville, NC 28306
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and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my
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Wikipedia_talk:Advocacy_ducks#RfC:_Is_the_following_addition_relevant_in_the_Signs_of_advocacy_section?
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In theory, yes; but in practice all the editors active at this page in the last year collaborate via
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The essay was published in mainpage April 3, 2015 and not long after was proposed by Formerly 98 as
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To receive additional notifications about WikiProject X on this talk page, please add this page to
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A sock puppet army is operating from this account Have reported. More people reporting may help.
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You can definitely use them. I had a look for the discussion RE twinkle but couldn't find one...
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Not that I am aware of. We definitely need better measures to address paid promotional editing.
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wasn't able to get the full range of redirects it wanted, but for me the last straw was seeing
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Not sure if anybody is much watching this, but we need a new name. We need a new name because
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it is buried way in the back closet and not of use to much of anybody (not us or the public)
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Right- does that mean we shouldn't use them, or just do so manually? Thanks for quick reply
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I also don't know what the answer is, but education, vigilance, and advocacy are helpful.
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Is there anything that can be done to prevent this? Is anyone tracking these accounts? --
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month. 5. Knowledge's level of accuracy has approached that of Encyclopedia Britannica.
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and escape notice? Have we seen much of this type of behavior from other accounts? --
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is in need of some major love to clean up a large amount of promotional content. --
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easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested,
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Elance ad .Looking for a Knowledge ADMIN Level ninja to help REMOVE pages and edit.
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was deleted last month, although IMO it's very unlikely that the users are socks.
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That's probably . There are not - yet - any links to it from articles on en.wiki.
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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I wrote up some thoughts on automated tool for detection of abuse of accounts
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Gah. Will let legal now. Will also try to get this account taken down. Thanks
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I'd keep it. However it could be renamed to something more informative, like
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There is an RfC related to paid editing, which was just amended. See
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There is a discussing about disallowing linking to other sites here
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purposes there's no benefit to waiting beyond that, I don't think.
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Before i made any formal move, wanted to float the notion.--
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I couldn't see these templates on the twinkle interface?
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WP:List of editors who have disclosed paid contributions
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To opt out of RM notifications on this page, transclude
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on the website that they claim is the source (/sauce!).
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a "registry" implies something more involved than this
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Could we please have additional eyes and thoughts at
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