1430:) has locked my account because I allegedly used pictures for articles Leonardo Facco and Giorgio Fidenato (administrators ML), the problem is that these images are not protected by any explicit copyright, I have also their direct and explicit unofficial approval in their use in Knowledge (XXG). The problem is that others users continue to believe neither the ML copyright holder on the same photo on their main leaders (though they are published on their website) and signed a copyright violator. The point is that the images have no copyright, and if other users have downloaded or uploaded to any sites that do not show their property but rather their free use. I calmly tried to explain this but here I shall be considered a bandit or a criminal, preventing the continuation of the debate block your account (which will change the name). Anyway I'll try to do as you say but I think this is not enough, I just hope that the page ML is not discussed again for its cancellation. Discussing with the administrators of ML I convinced them to also send an email request is signed as described here Thanks for the answers to me, I hope that the page ML can stay and be evaluated soon by you or others responsible for the Wikiproject. Bye
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limited government seems to be a government which is limited in its actions to specific things. But some of those items could infringe on individual liberty. For example, let's suppose that the US Constitution included in the enumerated powers act that the federal government determines aesthetic qualities of clothing. Under a strict constitutional interpretation, you have a limited government, but it can tell me that my pants are too baggy. Also, not an ideal state. So while limited and small government are interesting catch phrases, they both have issues and they are not the same thing. --
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also after the approvation. Despite all the links in the references still based on some distorted information taken from some users who have deliberately censored in Italy prevented us from
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January (ignoring some really bad ones that I hadn't gotten around to fixing before this started), to clean it up again. But just an FYI since this is the Libertarianism project.
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many self-styled libertarians are anti-property and that is mentioned in lead and text. However, if he wants to say the best known version of libertarianism is anything, it should phrased in a neutral tone (without "means of production") and have the mainstream sources. That's what I intend to change it to but since right now no one else is commenting, some support would help. Thanks!Ā :-)
1328:) that considers this ML page promotional, despite numerous articles and reports in a bibliography section and asks for her cancellation at the rear. I remember how in the Italian version of Knowledge (XXG), this page of the Movimento Libertario has been shamefully deleted by italian users little "libertarians". Try to talk with Rrburke. Thank, bye.
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First, if this is a continuation above, why not keep together to avoid confusion. Second, while I don't have it bookmarked any more, I know that there is such a thing as part of the
Anarchist wikiproject which is a guide and has some similar sources of interest. Which makes your job easier. Second,
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effectively originated the concept of human rights. (To summarize, this is a fringe theory promoted by the late Shah of Iran in the 1970s as part of his regime's propaganda and has subsequently been promoted by
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First, do take my suggestions seriously especially changing the name. (That might help in Italian wikipedia too.) As for photo, you can just write that you have permission to use them and include the web page and tell people to contact them through that for confirmation. I've just said I had
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Go for it. There are just no refs supporting its wide use. Again an article on two related groups (original and splinter) using "____ of the Libertarian Left" might be supported, though it only would have belly gazing refs, no other real WP:RS. I'm finally taking on the mess of the
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This task appears to be stalled or not initiated. As my main interest in wikipedia is quality of sourcing, and my current heavy review task is finalising, I'm proposing to take this task up. Could editors comment here, otherwise I will start Being Bold in about half a week.
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