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81: 63: 32: 91: 325:, vodka should not be a top-rated article for crying out loud!! We must focus on what is important, not on legitimising Western stereotypes and misconceptions. If we do that, then we are not much better than mainstream Western news sources which report stories based on what the public wants to hear rather than on what they 402:, simply because I've heard of them, but know next to nothing of them. An encyclopedia that only contains Geography of X, Culture of Y, Economics of Z subjects would be very uninteresting indeed, and I would not feel invited to read those articles. Perhaps after I've read these individual articles, perhaps. 529:
Sorry, your reasoning is flawed. Systemic bias is bias from editors (which means an overabundancy on technical subjects and marginal pop groups), the importance ratings are about bias from readers. While we can correct bias from editors, we cannot correct bias from readers. And readers are what this
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spartan, but approaching it). The number of high-importance articles can be larger and should cover broad subjects as well as important people. Above all, I think we should grow a backbone and stop ranking importance based on what we think the average Western Joe would look for. Why pander to the
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I absolutely wholeheartedly disagree. We would be no better if we enhanced these stereotypes and misconceptions; instead, due to our NPOV policy, we have a unique opportunity to set them straight. That's part of the reason why especially these stereotypical subjects should be of top-importance, and
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will probably also be of low importance until they have made a big impact in the U.K. or the USA. Katyusha is well known outside Russia, Tchaikovsky's piano concerto is very well known outside Russia in several versions (also made popular by classical pianists turned popular like
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toward western culture. The key question to see is: would the same importance-standard applied for a USA-related article with the same local importance? Also doesn't seem a good idea to rely on the knowledge of the "general public"; instead, we should rely on scholars' opinions.
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article about a single person deserves to be ranked top importance. The number of top importance articles should be fairly small and restricted to articles which cover a wide array of information. We should take some guidance from Wikiproject Canada (see
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I just really don't understand what's going on here. Could the descriptions on this page of the Mid/Low/etc. categories be made a little longer and more precise at least, so there's some less ambiguity?
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I'm not sure I understand what the difference is between Mid and Low priority. They both talk about "specific knowledge" - yet, an article about a single song (eg.
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most ignorant? The point of wikipedia should be to educate people, not to reaffirm what they already think they know - so
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I've expanded/reorganized quite a bit, and added some High-importance articles as well. Please have a laugh at my expense:
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I've taken the liberty to assign the following articles to Top-importance:
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Feel free to edit the article attached to this page, join up at the
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This is just my personal view, of course, but I don't believe that
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It depends on how much the subject is known to the general public
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WikiProject Russia articles with no associated task force
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to hear (ie. just about every news channel in America).
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ignorant on top of that)? I'll let you know that I am a
488:). History of the Soviet Union rates mid, because 362:. So would you consider me to be an ignorant (and 354:to be treated in an encyclopedia, as well as the 511:Errabee, This criteria you apply is flawed with 342:BTW, I seriously object to your use of the word 42:does not require a rating on Knowledge (XXG)'s 339:should be worked on with the utmost priority. 8: 570:NA-importance Project-Class Russia articles 57: 295:Category:High-importance Russia articles 280:I hope that's all right with everybody. 439:) can be of low importance. Moreover, 423:Difference between Mid and Low priority 291:Category:Top-importance Russia articles 59: 18:Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Russia 7: 31: 29: 48:It is of interest to the following 433:Piano Concerto No. 1 (Tchaikovsky) 135:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Russia 24: 102:This page is within the scope of 89: 79: 61: 30: 1: 565:NA-importance Russia articles 560:Project-Class Russia articles 302:03:38, 13 December 2006 (UTC) 505:02:29, 11 January 2007 (UTC) 452:01:46, 11 January 2007 (UTC) 437:History of Russian animation 415:03:08, 11 January 2007 (UTC) 334:01:54, 11 January 2007 (UTC) 285:14:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC) 160:Top/High importance articles 580:WikiProject Russia articles 441:History of the Soviet Union 138:Template:WikiProject Russia 596: 112:dedicated to coverage of 74: 56: 543:22:09, 3 June 2007 (UTC) 521:09:04, 3 June 2007 (UTC) 388:Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky 261:Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky 479:Night Watch (2004 film) 275:Russian Orthodox Church 125:, or contribute to the 530:project is all about. 235:Catherine II of Russia 372:theoretical chemistry 380:Ludwig van Beethoven 316:- perhaps not quite 116:on Knowledge (XXG). 398:, Celine Dion over 396:Geography of Canada 384:Sergei Rachmaninoff 475:The Turkish Gambit 127:project discussion 105:WikiProject Russia 44:content assessment 490:History of Russia 467:Sergei Bondarchuk 463:Sergei Eisenstein 400:Culture of Canada 230:Peter I of Russia 225:Ivan IV of Russia 213:Fyodor Dostoevsky 203:Alexander Pushkin 179:History of Russia 157: 156: 153: 152: 149: 148: 587: 537: 499: 471:Andrei Tarkovsky 409: 370:in the field of 268:Russian language 191:Saint Petersburg 143: 142: 139: 136: 133: 99: 94: 93: 92: 83: 76: 75: 65: 58: 35: 34: 33: 26: 595: 594: 590: 589: 588: 586: 585: 584: 550: 549: 535: 497: 429:Katyusha (song) 425: 407: 392:Giacomo Puccini 162: 141:Russia articles 140: 137: 134: 131: 130: 119:To participate: 95: 90: 88: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 593: 591: 583: 582: 577: 572: 567: 562: 552: 551: 548: 547: 546: 545: 524: 523: 508: 507: 459:outside Russia 424: 421: 420: 419: 418: 417: 340: 278: 277: 271: 270: 264: 263: 257: 256: 250: 249: 247:Vladimir Putin 244: 238: 237: 232: 227: 221: 220: 218:Anna Akhmatova 215: 210: 205: 199: 198: 193: 188: 182: 181: 176: 174:Russian Empire 171: 161: 158: 155: 154: 151: 150: 147: 146: 144: 117: 101: 100: 84: 72: 71: 66: 54: 53: 47: 36: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 592: 581: 578: 576: 573: 571: 568: 566: 563: 561: 558: 557: 555: 544: 541: 538: 533: 528: 527: 526: 525: 522: 519: 514: 513:systemic bias 510: 509: 506: 503: 500: 495: 491: 487: 485: 480: 476: 472: 468: 464: 460: 456: 455: 454: 453: 450: 444: 442: 438: 434: 430: 422: 416: 413: 410: 405: 401: 397: 393: 389: 385: 381: 377: 373: 369: 365: 361: 357: 356:Niagara Falls 353: 349: 345: 341: 337: 336: 335: 332: 328: 324: 319: 315: 310: 306: 305: 304: 303: 300: 296: 292: 287: 286: 283: 276: 273: 272: 269: 266: 265: 262: 259: 258: 255: 254:Peredvizhniki 252: 251: 248: 245: 243: 242:Boris Yeltsin 240: 239: 236: 233: 231: 228: 226: 223: 222: 219: 216: 214: 211: 209: 206: 204: 201: 200: 197: 194: 192: 189: 187: 184: 183: 180: 177: 175: 172: 170: 167: 166: 165: 159: 145: 128: 124: 120: 115: 111: 107: 106: 98: 97:Russia portal 87: 85: 82: 78: 77: 73: 70: 67: 64: 60: 55: 51: 45: 41: 37: 28: 27: 19: 458: 445: 426: 376:Roman Empire 363: 343: 326: 322: 317: 308: 288: 279: 163: 123:project page 118: 103: 50:WikiProjects 40:project page 39: 360:Celine Dion 208:Leo Tolstoy 110:WikiProject 554:Categories 484:Liberace 348:Montreal 344:ignorant 299:Errabee 282:Errabee 368:doctor 352:Quebec 186:Moscow 169:Russia 132:Russia 114:Russia 69:Russia 46:scale. 518:BMF81 196:Kazan 38:This 16:< 477:and 469:and 390:and 364:most 358:and 350:and 327:need 318:that 314:here 293:and 108:, a 536:rab 498:rab 449:Esn 408:rab 331:Esn 309:any 556:: 540:ee 532:Er 516:-- 502:ee 494:Er 465:, 431:, 412:ee 404:Er 386:, 382:, 323:no 297:. 129:. 52::

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