Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Spam/2006 Archive May & Jun

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who tell me they found information on area lakes, rivers, history, etc on our website that they could not find elsewhere, and many children use our site for research for school papers and projects. I realize the implications of allowing links to commercial websites in an article ostensibly about a government body, but feel our website offers real value to people seeking information on the Ocala area. I feel that wikipedia is a valuable resource and a stage in the evolution of the internet.

2394:. On the Tanzania article, the BBC Country profile, CIA, and State Dept. links are probably useful to for referencing material in the article. As such, they should be listed as references and not external links. There should be a section, and subarticle about the "Media" in Tanzania. All the media links should go in the subarticle, except for maybe the most widely read newspaper or new outlet. And other links in appropriate subarticles. -- 2354: 31: 2366: 922:. I have left the appropriate messages the user talk page and have been very specific on 2 of the 3 edit summaries, but it's not helped. As I am now at 3 reverts, could someone to add this article to your watch page and do the revert next time this individual added the links back; it seems like it is only a matter of time until this happens. 3307:

enough (in a case where the offender comes back every morning and evening to replace the links, and I edit in the afternoon). AN and AN/I are too clogged up with more pressing matters to deal with this. On articles with few active contributors it is hard for non-admins to remove the spam without coming up against 3RR.

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He is also welcome to add actual content to the WP articles, or even copy his 3rd-party verifiable work into the article space (unless it isn't compatible with the GFDL). Of course there's the Original Research problem, but that's a problem regardless of whether he's inserting external links or not.

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Yeah, it's spam. He does seem to be trying to make useful contributions to the articles, but adding the same site to multiple articles, especially since it is his own website, is definitely spamming as far as WP is concerned. Hopefully your second message will get his attention. If not, you can point

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I cut and pasted a few lines from the main MindVox entry, rewrote the intro and cut and pasted some of the links from the MindVox entry as well as whatever I found in 3 minutes using google. MindVox was a huge cultural force, most of the users themselves, hmmm, were not. What is there right now seems

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Is adding multiple links to the same site in different articles acceptable, if the links are customised to the particular article, or should it be regarded as an advertising variant, and treated like spamming? For example, added links to bookmistakes.com for each book, or adding a external link to a

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Done (I think). I might have missed some but I spent a couple of hours yesterday going through his history and removing all references to his own website and publications. His work seems to be of otherwise little notability. Moreover, the guidelines had been explained to him on numerous occasions on

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I'm of the opinion that it's spam. Each link seems to be there to promote the person discussed. Plus it's inserted in the article text - if it were being inserted in an External links section it might be more of a gray area. With few exceptions, External links have no place in the article text. I'll

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It almost seems like spamming is OK as long as you do it every couple of days. :-/ Anyhow - blatant violations of the rules, this user should be blocked but there is no way to complain without getting ignored. Any friendly admins here care to block? If we keep blocking, extending time each time -

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on his page. If he persists past the final warning, recommend him for a block. We have far more vandals on WP than we do vandal-fighters... the more time we spend trying to persuade a stubborn spammer, the less time we have to fight vandalism. Some people just need to see a block before they realize

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links, but can also see it being abused by adding "review (and buy) this X at our nn website". The problem is that individually, the links may be appropiate, so are unlikely to be removed, but viewed overall, permitting large scale link additions to the same site seems to allow wikipedia to be used

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I agree that three warnings is a lot. While vandalism is also very annoying, spamming is in my mind much worse in terms of undermining the credibility of Knowledge (XXG). I think the language of the first warning should be strengthened and the number of warnings dropped to two, with the possibility

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I've found that 3 warnings are usually enough. Even one or two warnings. However I have blocked spammers after one warning when they have either deceptively changed the URLs or removed other links while inserting their own. The problems I see with spam come more from a variety of users than single

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is an official policy of Knowledge (XXG), not a guideline. I fully understand the need to not back down from spammers, but at the same time spam-fighting should not be a license to bully well-intentioned editors. There is also a guideline that should apply to both new editors and new spam fighters:

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Hello, I have a website, www.wearefla.com which has hundreds of pages and links to information about Ocala which cannot be found on any of the linked pages in this article. Our website's purpose is not only to be a commercial website. I get emails from and meet people in the Ocala area quite often

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I trimmed the links in this (very short) article but within a few days, 3-4 more links were added. I have removed all but the project website, as I believe that's all that's required for an article of five sentences! If anyone wants to check whether I was too harsh, or keep it on their watch list,

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Almost invariably the articles on the pyrowiki offer the same or less as the corresponding articles here; even if it did offer more, the material could be back-incorporated easily. As such, it contributes nothing to the articles here - I would say revert, and leave a spam notice on the talk page.

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I'm not vindicating separate noticeboards for each type of vandalism. However, EL abuse is by far one of the most comon types of vandalism (far more so than personal attacks, say, which have their own baord). An AISPAM board would be somewhere that people would soon remember to seek help at, and

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LTA is for when several blocks have been given out - most of these vandals are deterred when they get blocked for the first time, and the problem is getting that first block in in a timely fashion. RFI could handle this, but tends to be overwhelmed with content disputes and doesn't operate in the

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has been systematically adding links to a personal site (his?). I'm usually fairly aggressive about removing spam, but I'm feeling torn about this one as the editor has in some cases added useful content along with his link, and the site does seem to have some useful information. What do you folks

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Thank you all for the sugestions and comments you have posted in reply to my request. I think that in my new post just a few hours ago I may have demonstrated just how verbose I can be :-), but I'm not sure that this is necessarily a good thing. Now that I think about it several hours later, I not

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There are significant advantages of my web pages over the official government US Census web site, but in terms of the ability to deep link to specific data, there is the obvious (and huge) advantage that you cannot readily do so on the government site. Theirs operates by means of presenting search

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page for deletion because obviously it's a topic that could be very interesting. On the other hand I cannot write the page myself as I don't think I know enough on the subject to do a decent job. So how do we turn it into a page that is more easy to defend against spam? Any suggestions would be

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This did occur to me too; however I still believe there is a need for a separate board. Firstly, it's not clear how we should change AIAV to deal with this. Secondly, EL abuse isn't really what AIV is for - it's not simple vandalism as such, and AIV is there as an emergency block to vandalism

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Recently, I have spent most of my Knowledge (XXG) time reverting linkspam. However, I have been finding it increaingly hard to deal with repeat offenders - after labelling with the spam templates I have taken cases to AIAV to be told they aren't simple vandalism, or haven't vandalised recently

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reveals that it's been somewhat successful at getting some indexing; I went through all of the results; less than a quarter still had the offending spam content. I'm also going to post a note to complex vandalism; perhaps there's a script that could automatically block this (since the spelling

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The directories rule is there so that we could have one directory link which links to a hundred sites, rather than have all the hundred clogging up the EL section themselves. Almost by definition we should never have more than one directory listed (just use the most comprehensive) and there is

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EL spam is a fairly simple problem to stamp out when caught quickly; the problem is that we currently have no mechanism to deal with it in less time than it takes for a spammer to hit fifty articles, which is hard work to clear up when the spammer reverts three or four times before an admin's

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Argon233 - from what I can read of your exchange with this spammer, you've already spent far too much of your time explaining our policies and procedures to him. Again, kudos for trying to reason with him, but some people, like the professor in your story, won't listen to simple reasoning and

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Is there some official policy page somewhere that makes this direct connection between linkspam and the "simple vandalism" clause of the 3RR exemptions? I agree that this should be allowed but would like something concrete to point to when/if I even need to hit 4 reverts for spam removal...

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is trying hard to remove links to sites that are making money off Knowledge (XXG). You may check there for additional guidelines. Making a request on the talk page is the right way to start, however, if you have a really exceptional site. Some questions you need to ask yourself: Is the

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say linking to imdb it's usefulness might be debatable, however bookmistakes.com is not so not notable as to be considered a useful reference here (besides, it had google ads). Assuming the other website he's linking to is similar, all the edits should be reverted and the appropriate

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to be shout outs and linkspam for non notable people, but I made some suggestions in the article's talk page, if the person writing the article removed the list of names and stuck with what Voxxers were, I think it would be ok, certainly no worse then pages of slashdot trivia.

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football ones are a bit less cut-and-dry in my opinion... it doesn't seem to have been extensively spammed, and as it's being added by multiple IPs, it may very well be multiple people that think it's useful. Might be worth just keeping an eye on it for now. Just my $ 0.02...

3920:. Depending on his this goes I'll deal with any other articles he's created / will create accordingly. I have a backlog on my watchlist, so I can't do much else with this for now. Could someone else take a look at the insertions he's made to other existing articles? Thanks -- 312:. Anyone else feel like saying something to this user about this behavior? I really don't want to directly engage with him at this point. Maybe having someone else leave a message will help him realizes it not just me that objects to him linkspaming his own sites. Thanks, -- 3453:

Many users spot this sort of thing going on, and don't know where to report it - they certainly wouldn't think of RFI straight away, and definitely not the two talk pages that more experienced users go to. And most importantly admins don't think to routinely look at those

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sure how useful my experiment in my latest post using metaphoric language is going to be, but it's too late now. If nothing else, I enjoyed writting the story. If the other contributer keeps responding in the same manner he has so far, should I just disengage? Thanks, --

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results. That means that, whereas a link to a specific type of statistic is a click away to my specific US census web page, whereas in the case of the gov. web site, the link takes you where you have to do some work before you even find out that there is such a statistic.

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regarding my identifying of these external links was linkspam, as well as how I responded to the comments on my talk page. If I join WikiProject Spam, it would seem that I'd see much more of this, and I'd like to learn more from those that have already been through this.

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As of this writing, the article appears to have only wiki links - links to other articles at Knowledge (XXG). Though some of them are redlinks (links to non-existent articles), these types of links aren't generally considered spam. Looking at the article's history

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and the number of reverts to external links made on any high-profile article. A couple of admins and other users who regularly check the board and become familiar with the most persistent cases would suffice - I don't think it will spread resources too thinly.

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Though the dogsindepth site is well-organized and has a decent amoung of general content, the individual pages about dogs don't seem to add much that the Knowledge (XXG) article doesn't already cover (at least in the few I sampled). Personally, I think

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Why do we have to bother with three warnings? If the spam intent is clear and the spammer does not respond to warnings, shouldn't two warnings be enough? That way, the spammer will still get a chance to do his thing THREE TIMES without being blocked.

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My current interest in WikiProject Spam stems from a series of two comments (so far) that where left on my talk page regarding external links to allcountries.org & occupationalinfo.org which I removed from several articles. I believe I have shown

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I originally removed it because it seemed to be a lawyer fishing for clients with an article site while at the same time selling SEO links for gambling related keywords. I was quickly reverted as vandalism, 'strange random random edit' and spam.

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too if it doesn't contain esspecially unique content that the article cannot provide. I plan on trying to clean out some of those links. The pages esspecially don't need lists of breeders. It is tantamount to list of websites that sell said

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I'm kind of wary of creating another board for people to report abuse to admins. If we make too many of these boards, then we'll find that we have our resources spread to thin and admins can't be everywhere at once. If there's a problem with

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and have followed my understanding of the Knowledge (XXG) policies, guidance, and commonly accepted practices both in the original actions that prompted the comments, as well as in my response, but everyone has room for improvement.

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2. Web directories: When deemed appropriate by those contributing to an article on Knowledge (XXG), a link to one web directory listing can be added, with preference to open directories (if two are comparable and only one is open).

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has been adding links to his own site selling photos (of the admittably beautiful) County Kerry. I have posted the usual "Please do not add commercial links..." to his talk page. Can someone help remove his contibutions? Thanks

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I've looked at his links and downloaded one of his pdfs. I don't see any advertising and the pdf has quite a bit of content. I don't read Portugese so I can't attest to the quality. Best wait for some input from other editors.

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There are also a ton of web forums, and breeder lists, etc. I kept this all clean for a long time, and went away for a while only to discover that most of it has come back. Can I recruite some folks to help go through the

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shows some links remain. The football one is less clear as the sites appear to be relativly substantial, hence my checking here first to gauge opinion as to whether it's substantial enough to pass the "imdb test" :) Regards,

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I found this article while going through speedy deletions. I changed the speedy to a prod due to to it being an invalid reason. When I went back to look at it again I noticed a large amount of external links which I removed

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Argon233: I read the discussion you had with the spammer. I think you handled it very diplomatically, taking the time to be much more verbose than many of us would be. In short, kudos, and I hope you do join the project!

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I'd tend to agree with this. Unless you're watching the persistent spammer closely (hitting refresh on the contribs frequently) the number of links to clean up can grow quickly over the course of three or four warnings.

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Well, still a bit bummed, because he really was adding nice content. I'll rm his linkspam over the next few days, but I wish there were some way to keep the contributor and leave behind the ego/businessman/"whaddevah".

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This page is practically acting as such a board at the moment, but I think it would be better to bring this problem to a dedicated page to raise its profile, make it easier to find and encourage admins to patrol it.

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I am considering adding my username as a participant of WikiProject Spam, as linkspam, redlinks, and improper date links have become pet peeves of mine, but before I do I would like to make a request of this group.

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passes, administrators will likely be more willing to block vandalising and spamming IPs without fresh sets of warnings each time (which would certainly help with our without a separate place to report spammers).

1485:- looks like all/most edits from this IP have been to spam a link to socialaffairsunit.org.uk across many articles. I don't have the time right now to investigate this myself, so I'm posting it here. Thanks -- 197:

Seconded. Sadly, this happens often enough that I've actually started keeping a pre-written block of text around. In any case, it's always nice to see guys like you take the extra time to manage thits stuff.

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They consist solely of adding links to a pyrotechnics wiki to articles relating to pyrotechnics. I'm not sure this constitutes inappropriate spamming, so I'm posting it here for others to review. Thanks.

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Agreed - if we try to politely guide them towards becoming better editors but they just want to "take their ball and go home", I see no reason to worry about it. Consider it to be one less source of spam.

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Such a noticeboard could also deal with more complicated long-term spam vandals, create a record of the Wikiproject's activities, and would result in a more consistent application of the current policy.

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That might actually be a tracking tag -- so that the owners of the website can determine how many hits it gets from these WP links. Either because he's curious, or the spammer is getting paid for this --

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I see they have returned, adding the same links again into many Mayo towns. However, not all edits add link, some add a paragraph describing their business (or his business, if the person in question is

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You're welcome. I'll AfD the page for you if you convince me, but right now I don't see a problem with the current page - at least some of them (e.g., You Are An Idiot) are real internet phenomena.

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All socialaffairsunit.org.uk links have been removed. It'd be nice if this guy would argue why these links should be included instead of just inserting them into every article he can think of.

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Thanks - I've removed it all and left the standard spam-n message. If he replies (in my experience only about 10% care enough to reply) I'll try to steer him towards more constructive edits --

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of immediate block when the spamming is blatant (like adding numerous links to the same page in different articles or adding a link to a commercial page from a completely unrelated article).

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if they feel it justified. It is a good idea to include a hidden note to that effect. I won't remove sites that have met this standard, though I cannot speak for others on the spam team.

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His/her edits seem to be a mix. You might reccomend the user make use of references if he wants to cite external info. Otherwise just adding the site to random articles is spamming. -

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message left on the user's talk page. If there is a significant number of edits and you'd like help reverting them, just leave a follow-up message here and I or others can help --

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Done... my talk page is full of discussion with spammers arguing the merits of their link, I can handle another :). Drop another note here or on my talk page if he spams again --

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page has more details on this. The idea is that if the resources really is valuable, then someone other than the author (and his/her friends) would link to it independently. --

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message; if he replies we can take it from there, but I'd say go ahead and just start removing the links as you normally would. I'll chip in if I have some time this evening --

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There are a bunch of persistent spammers who keep adding links to monkeydoo.com, but besides for that, I haven't seen any definitive spamming there. I'm going to first cleanup

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Keep an eye out for a very persistent anonymous spammer adding links (primarily to movie reviews) from a variety of anonymous IPs. All the links go to freeinfosociety.com. -

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Mainly, however, I believe external link spam is a big enough problem to warrant some specialist attention - just look at the number of reports above, at the talk page of

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I would like to voice out my opinion here. It does seem like spam links but the problem here is that it is a notable website. Maybe, we should clarify with him again. --

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on his page and even then he spammed once more. Good job getting it all. Banish any future spam from this user to the rubbish bin (or my frying pan... mmm breakfast) --

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and other such sites - most of which basically duplicate the info here, except they have ads. Things like this shouldn't be allowed, although the owner of the site

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is pretty good and relatively advertising-free and is exactly what I would expect to find on the New York one. In any case, it seems like an overkill to nominate the

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It's all spam. There is an "Order a Report" link on the left of the main page. This leads to an order form with: "The assessment fee is Euro95 (approx US$ 110)".

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that this fits the behavior of spammers, and advised to stop. It's my opinion that these are spam links (even if he is not affiliated with the site, as he says

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If you still feel that it is worthy of inclusion, despite ads on the site, contact a couple unbiased Knowledge (XXG) administrators to review your site. Then

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There is a continual proliferation of link directories on the articles on African countries. While some of the links are useful, most aren't. Take a look at

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has been adding numerous links to about.com since registering an account in December. While it's a well-known site, he has done nothing but add these links

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keep the article on my watchlist and help you revert spam additions, but hopefully this article will soon be banished to the rubbish bin where it belongs --

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related articles. Warned, but continues with the usual "then why don't you remove all the other private links" excuse. Better keep an eye on this one. -

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area are held at the South Mayo Family Research Centre in Ballinrobe" as I didn't think it was too harmful. Also left Hollymount1 spam2 warning.

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may even need to be deleted. But it's such a mess, I'm not sure where to start. If any project memebers have some free time, please take a look. --

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Also having some consensus other than just me (defend each other) to agree what should and should not be allowed would be a nice thing to have. -

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If you get any complaints, it might also be worth pointing out that Knowledge (XXG) strongly discourages editors linking to their own sites. The

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Not sure how the spam project works (I've never had a spammer actually revert my removals before)... anyone care to take a peek at his contribs?

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I've started cleaning up the link sections in the breed articles...I'm being conservative and leaving sites that are dedicated to that breed.

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of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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specifies that only two warnings need to be given prior to a block if the vandalism is blatant. One solution might be to start with a

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is a repository kept to isolate the spam links from the main article, so somebody's actually going to have to clean that thing up.

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I reckon the remaining links could do with a once over as well. I couldn't decide they were spam, but have doubts all the same.

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have a store. Dogtoyco is arguing removal based on the "Sites that primarily exist to sell products or services" clause of

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Regardless of any notability he may have, he is adding links to a site that he almost certainly runs/maintains (violating

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seems to have some ideas I disagree with regarding external links (the onpage ads etc don't matter to him). Oh well... --

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Well, I seem to have convinced him to stop, but now he says he's going to stop contributing as well. Very frustrating.

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explanation. I recommmend continuing to monitor his edits. If he continues to spam, drop the appropriate spam template

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Starting at least around 18:32, 9 May 2006 a link to http://www.articleon.com was added multiple times to the article

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purpose of my site to earn income? Could I remove the ads? Or could I add the content to Knowledge (XXG)? Is my page

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were used. Today the link was readded 4 minutes after I removed it. Can anyone here do something about it? Thanks, --

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to point to albinoblacksheep.com, which is probably the best-known of the websites to choose from. I also nominated

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absolutely no defence for business directories whatsoever - they are commercial and free of encyclopaedic content.

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Any suggests on how to go about this? I've RVed many link spammers, but they were all much more dubious than him.

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Of course, it would be best to restrict to cases where all three spam templates have been displayed to no avail.

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I saw this as well. I removed the links but left the following text: "Genealogical records for the <City: -->

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For what it's worth, the editor that inserted them seems to be showing good faith. As soon as he/she was warned

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Hi, I am not such an experienced editor so I am seeking counsel for the correct thing to do regarding the page

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I definately think that the word fsorward should get added to VoA's filter tool so that it picks it up too. --

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to my watch list. Each time he adds the link, just tag his talk page with spam warnings and then list him to

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I agree with both of you. If our consensus isn't enough, adding links to sites you run/maintain goes against

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One advantage that he fails to mention is the advantage to his pocketbook; allcountries.org has Google ads.

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Yeah, seems to have prompted a cleanup of the other links on that article as well. All's well ends well. -

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is that they generally are. If they're not being blocked then we should fix AIV, not make a new board. --

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exceptional? Am I emotionally involved with my own creation to the point where I overvalue its quality?

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If the person adding it runs and maintains it and its not an article about their site. Goes against

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Sadly, the spam URLs aren't always the same (though there probably aren't that many different ones).

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I'm watching. Have already had to revert him. One more and I'll list him on the vandalism page.

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Looking through the external links on most of the dog breed pages there are many many links to

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Hi. I don't feel confident enough handling this one myself. The above user, creating his own

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given the wide range of IPs it originates from (though I have noticed that many of them are in

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as an example. Periodically I clean them up, but they really could use some regular clean up.--

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admins would be more likely to patrol. I think it's at least worth a trial, if nothing else.

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maybe the user will get the idea that this sort of promotion isn't tolerated and go away. -

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has messages from other editors who also felt that the link additions were inappropriate. --

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I've removed all that remained of Jonsandy's additions (as far as I can see) and left him a

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is "an important guideline of Knowledge (XXG), but it is not an ironclad policy." Actually

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Don't worry about it. Apparently his main purpose in contributing was to be able to spam.

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Looks like he/she followed your suggestion to post the request on the article's talk page

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Ok, all three are tagged. I'm sure we'll get a barrage of hate mail over this from him.

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as "Spam - Adding inappropriate external links for advertisement and/or self-promotion".

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Regarding the "allcountries" site, they have been persistent about adding those links. -

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I'm drafting a page in my sandbox now - hopefully I'll have it ready to trial soon.

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isn't always the right place. In the case of a more complex abuse pattern, wouldn't

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Done. Also removed serveral other links that I did not feel needed to be there per

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http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:External_links#Occasionally_acceptable_links

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In following Dogtoyco's edits, I noticed an external link he removed from the

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is more comprehensive. I wouldn't object to those two sites being listed on

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user? Appears to be adding tons of links to innercitypress.com. Thanks.

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article? I've already reverted the spam 3 times, and don't want to violate

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Could someone please revert the most recent edit by JackDaniels1982 to the

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which then automatically reject any edits that contain that URL. Regards,

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There's also the {{bv}} template which seems to imply only 1 warning. --

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For the purposes of counting reverts, these are excluded: self-reverts,

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A list of countries in Africa is below for anyone feeling ambitious.

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Yes, 'spamming' is under the umbrella of 'vandalism'. If you look on

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If it's extremely bad, you can suggest that the url be added to the

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The Tanzania example is excessive. I have trimmed the links in the

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Looks like we met up somewhere in the middle - all clean I think --

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I think you already know but I'll post it here for others ... The

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If you take issue with those links, what do you think about their

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have its own place for reporting. Perhaps it's time for a formal

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with nothing done. The user later came back and spammed more.

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warnings, and if he continues past a final warning, list him on

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worst problem Knowledge (XXG) is currently facing. I think spam

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This article makes the incorrect (perhaps outdated?) claim that

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I just noticed that the templates have changed. On June 5, the

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I've added his sites to my watch list. Will keep an eye out.

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A quote from the editor putting in the allcountries.org links:

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if the user has already added a lot of links, and skipping to

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could be asked for some help in expanding the article? Maybe

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I've also added Sockpuppet tags to Dogtoyco and 86.3.16.24.

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For the book/movie site, I noticed it as contributions from

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has already had three warnings and has since done it again:

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If someone has time, can you please review/revert edits by

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seem to think it's useful. Since it already exists in the

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All spam contributions by Hollymount1 have been removed.

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website on a per club basis. I can see a simiariaty with

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I'd like a second person to review the contributions of

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and someone else previously had removed his links from

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is external linking to his own research. According to

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Multiple independent links to same site - yea or nay?

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which seems like a reasonable place for the link). --

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Can someone have a look at the contributions made by

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Links to allcountries.org & occupationalinfo.org

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See 842:There are quite a few external links at 3747:It's linkspam, plain and simple. If he 3312:Administrator intervention against spam 1064:and it sat there for days, when it was 753:Hey, great work! Thanks. I still think 1556:He may also be editing under username 874:promotion of the work of Kevin Trudeau 4368:spam links on dog and a cry for help. 3880:, complete with links to promote his 3677:There is additional discussion here: 2967:I'm sure most of you have run across 2417:Please don't get carried away. Note: 1734:if they continue to egregiously spam. 18:Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Spam 7: 3679:Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chemicals 1421:Kill the link. 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