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English diagram, but is slightly broken (there's visible whitespace between some of what should be continuous segments) and adds unnecessary details (like the shapes of crossing lines) which make it harder to read. It's missing information about accessibility. (Though the accessibility icons on the English version are sometimes too small to be able to make out clearly, and increasing my browser zoom level doesn't help; it looks like some SVG files have been rendered into PNG files just a few pixels square.) The Chinese Knowledge (XXG) doesn't have a diagram at all; just a station table. Even though there's a big Brazilian popuation in metro Boston, the Portuguese Knowledge (XXG) only has an MBTA article, and none on the Red Line at all, though the geographically-accurate system map is very good.
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other direction. I'm impressed and somewhat horrified that editors have managed to use this system to create a huge number of useful and good-looking diagrams in existing articles, but given the unrepaired malfunctions of the existing system, it also seems like we are in danger of having a legacy system we can't maintain. If new editors can't be easily recruited, we'll have the wiki equivalent of trying to find COBOL programmers. Small-language wikis are going to have a really hard time finding enough people both very interested in trains and willing to plow through this user-unfriendly syntax to make and maintain diagrams, which means we're probably going to have problems getting railroad diagrams for countries where those languages are primarily spoken. --
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Weymouth: miles: 14.6 - West Hingham miles: 16.2 - North Scituate miles: 23.3 - Greenbush: miles: 27.6 branches: - Old Colony Lines: after: Weymouth Landing/East Braintree rail_yards: - Yard: before: Greenbush continuations: - end: ] to Plymouth
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There are only two sizes of station icon: a big one for the more important stations where everything stops, and a small one for the minor stations. Solid circles are passenger stations. Icons with a wheelchair symbol denote accessiblity. Blue or red rings with a white centre are freight-only stations
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RDTs are inherently a very complicated system because railroads (and the other linear features such as waterways and paths that RDTs are used for) are complicated. There are something like 300,000 BSicons currently on
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Lots of track_crossing syntax could represent the complicated interlocking further north, adding type=at_grade and type=bridge, with tunnel_exit indicating where to render certain tracks as underground. Yeah, there's a bunch of code to write to transform any given combination into a diagram, but it
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If there's no specific definition for e.g. "minor" station, that makes it hard for me to tell if the MBTA Red Line diagram has the correct icons. It would be an inordinate amount of work for me to look at a dozen different diagrams from rail networks across the world to get a sense of how the icons
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The German one has splotches of red next to the terminal stations, which are unexplained and are not accessible to people who are color blind. The
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To be blunt: You don't seem to be very familiar with the routemap architecture and why it is how it is. If you want to improve this system, get more experience learning how it works by editing and creating RDTs. Right now, you're just tossing out vague ideas that would require a huge amount of work
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I can't imagine any of these existing markup styles are good for editor retention. The last one in particular looks nothing like Mediawiki syntax, and gobbledegooky enough that even as a professional programmer who could figure this out with some hours of effort, my first instinct was to run in the
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I have zero access to books, and therefore the statement that the stock might have entered service 2 days earlier is unable to be checked off. Although on the jawiki info box it does mention the date as the date of entering service, the mention of the date in the main part is... just not there. The
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ones side by side, you'll see lots of differences. The German one uses blue dots (which vary in size for no discernible reason) to represent stations, and white-center circles to represent train yards. The English version uses both white-center circles and fork-like icons to represent train yards.
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I'm a programmer and do my code-thinking in the shower, which is where I just realized I've run into the same testing problem (generally speaking) at previous employers. The problem is that when you make a change that should make no user-visible changes to a complex processing system (for example,
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connections: - Red Line (MBTA): icon: red_line_mbta.png metro_line: name: Greenbush Line system: MBTA Commuter Rail color: violet accessible: yes stops: - Quincy Center: miles: 7.9 connection: Red Line (MBTA) - Weymouth Landing/East Braintree miles: 11.8 -
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want people to look this over, particularly people knowledgeable of Japanese railways and people fluent in both Japanese and English. My Japanese ability is, in my own judgment, non-existent; while I have learned some features of the language on my own, and I do know bits of vocabulary, I've never
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I don't disagree that a better way to create and edit RDTs would be desirable. A graphic editor that makes it easy to find and choose icons, and get everything properly aligned, would be a great Community Wishlist item. But there's no need to reinvent the wheel, especially by screenshotting RDTs.
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It seems like we're failing to achieve the promised consistency (even within the same diagram, much less across articles) because editors are sometimes picking slightly-wrong icons. I assume this could be prevented if instead of hunting manually through a large icon set, they were specifying the
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Yes, you suggested a visual editor as a Community Wishlist item, which would require a huge amount of code that could both parse the BSicon format as written by human editors and also output this format. That would also require a lot of rigorous testing to make sure that the system both produces
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The same benefits could be achieved with a far less-complicated markup, if we take advantage of modern wiki and graphics technology instead of using the 1990s hack of putting tiny images together in a table. Adding a visual editor on top of an overly-complicated markup I think makes things a bit
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A typical modern web site would provide a spot to put translations of individual snippets. For example, this YAML-like syntax could have "name_en", "name_es", etc. so that the source code could live on Commons and maps could be produced for any language for which there are translations (perhaps
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Weird thing to point out, but the ill seems a bit odd for me. The page leads to a page in jawiki describing events leading up to the first railway in Japan, so the title is probably appropriate when considering that, but another thing is that the jawiki article seems to be already translated in
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The German Knowledge (XXG) seems to distinguish between what Google Translate calls stations and stops, the former being the only ones that have rail switches. That may be an artifact of German vocabulary, since they seem to have different words for these with different German Knowledge (XXG)
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One way would be to make normal images, either by screenshotting the existing template and editing the colors. Another would be to use a simple table to list the stops and other elements. I like the idea of a simple table because it would cut out some visual clutter, making the diagram more
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I don't think that would work nearly as well as a Community Wishlist item for building an easy-to-use transport mapping system from scratch. If we're going to be asking programmers to spend time on this, I think it's helpful to think through the pros and cons of feasible
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Hmm, where there are two colors in the same image, the number of needed combination gets a bit excessive. The names for all these icons and how they are put together seems not very editor-friendly, so maybe a better solution would be to come up with a new way to do
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In the short term, I'll try and tweak the colors using the existing system, and get a better sense of the pros and cons of abandoning this system (even without a nice replacement) and merging information into the existing redundant station tables. --
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Where would be a good place to discuss the question and move toward consensus? I'm unsure if you mean there should be a consensus for this specific article, for all MBTA lines, or for systems that color-name or color-code their lines in general. --
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I don't think so, we don't make rigid rules - but we do expect people to be sensible in their choice of icons, so that we don't end up with cases of an icon having one meaning in 90% of uses but a completely different meaning in the other 10%. So
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That project is marked as semi-active and it looks like only one human has posted there in the past 7 years or so. I've posted a link to this thread there anyway. How would we go about changing this for MBTA lines, assuming no one objects? --
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Yes, and that's very user-unfriendly to anyone who doesn't speak German, which is nearly everyone. A well-designed system could be localized into any language, for example by translating the keywords in the YAML-like syntax above. --
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Beland, the code you are suggesting would require an entirely new parser to dynamically generate the map. It would only be able to handle extremely simple RDTs - a much larger amount of code would be needed to replicate the existing
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use large dots for all stations. If we feel like there are useful distinctions to be made, we should document them so they are made consistently and so that readers can actually benefit from them. --
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is already using red for the Red Line and violet for Commuter Rail. That template (and many other diagrams) are also malfunctioning in dark mode in ways that editors have tried and failed to fix (see
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No, presumably this would be a project-wide alternative to the BSicon system that could be used by any article, and which if significantly better, would be something we'd migrate to en masse. --
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A "limited service" stop is one where very few trains call; perhaps only at the beginning or end of the day, or peak times only, or a seasonal working. --
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