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answer no. I think infoboxes should display very brief snippets of information that can be interpreted at a glance. Adding taxa beyond the classic Linnaean ranks seems to me to be clutter that will confuse the average reader (though it certainly adds precision, which the average reader will likely not notice). Question 2 is "should we believe and write about a recently published summation and revision of eukaryotic taxonomy?" On that question, I'm a yes. We've known for a long time that Linnaean ranks aren't going to accurately capture divergence of groups. Unranked taxa have been widespread for a long time and are largely uncontroversial. It's great that this group is going through and synthesizing phylogenetic data to give a larger view of eukaryote phylogeny. I'd feel comfortable writing about it in the relevant section of an article. I just don't think it's beneficial to expand the taxoboxes to include non-Linnaean ranks (and I think that's what prompted
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without formal rank designations. The hierarchy is represented by indented paragraphs. The nomenclatural priority is given to the oldest name (and its authority) that correctly assembled genera or higher groups together into a clade, except where its composition was substantially modified. In these cases, we have used a newer term and its appropriate authorship. In cases where ranks were created to include a single lower rank, the higher ranks were eliminated as superfluous. In this scheme, monotypic taxa are represented by the genus only. Nested clades represent monophyletic lineages as best we know and para- or polyphyletic groups are so indicated. This system of hierarchical nameless ranks, that ignores endings of clade names," So indeed nameless appears to refer to more than just the ending of the names, as is their long standing practice, going back to e.g. 2007.
3394:. I've never been convinced that the distinction between primary and secondary references works well in science, especially within taxonomy. Some of the best reviews of taxonomy are included in papers making taxonomic proposals, so the papers have elements of both primary and secondary sources. The overall eukaryote divisions included in Adl et al (2019) seem to represent a good review of the current status, reasonably consistent with other proposals, which makes it a good secondary source. The specific proposal to use "system of hierarchical nameless ranks" is more controversial and is likely to remain so. They also go on to include some ranks in Table 1 "to help orient the student", including just two kingdoms: Bilateria and Embryophyta. Given they propose to use nameless ranks, I don't think they should be used as a source for ranks. 3893:. What exactly is so radical about the Adl et al 2019 proposal? This paper is the third in a series of papers (Adl et al, 2005, 2012, 2019) proposing a revised taxonomy of eukaryotes based on an ongoing review of the literature. It is generally conservative with the groupings and the major supergroups have been stable since 2007 or 2012. The position of a number of taxa that fall outside the main supergroups is left incertae sedis, even though a number of recent papers have suggested clearer relationships (Burki et al 2016, Brown et al 2018, Lax et al 2018, Cavalier-Smith 2018, etc). It doesn't contain primary research so I don't think the proposed taxonomy should be rejected because it is a primary source. 5411:, plants), and try to keep them consistent with the articles. If it's hard to keep limited trees in articles properly reffed, for the navboxes it is probably impossible; They are never based on a single or just a few articles, which is a problem. No room for alternative phylogenies. It is also not clear whether the grouping should be phylogenetically based, which incidentally leads to conflicts. What I am trying to do is when I make a change, is to refer to the scientific article to which the change was made. When following the links in the taxoboxes, one invariably gets to wikipedia pages with different cladogram or taxoboxes, e.g. 223: 3840:- Adl et al suggest a reordering of Eukaryotes, but they also note that their research is still incomplete, and that further data from other sources (such as deep oceans) could cause them to reclassify or reorder even further. I think we need to wait until the scientific community figures out the ramifications of the study and more literature is published. This would be an absolutely massive undertaking for us, and that energy shouldn't be wasted if in a few months time another paper refutes Adl, or Adl refines their findings. And furthermore, Adl is still a primary source! We need a reliable secondary source here. 497:. And potential orchid hybrids number in the millions; orchid species are maintained largely by allopatry and pollinator specificity. Bring two orchids together in one place and have a human transfer the pollen? Boom, new hybrid. SPECIESOUTCOMES should not apply to human created hybrids; notability standards for human created hybrids should probably follow the standards for other works of humans (e.g., books, artworks, etc.). As for naturally ocurring hybrids, I think the bar should be higher than that they are simply documented to exist (i.e. SPECIESOUTCOMES), but I'm not sure quite what it should be. 5371:, which covers families) get placed willy nilly on species articles that aren't included in the navbox. For organisms other than birds and mammals, our coverage of species is far from complete, so a navbox would mostly be a sea of redlinks (although mammals are the only group where navboxes are widespread anyway). As a reader, the only navboxes I've ever really clicked on are geographic (e.g. cities in a US county) or chronological (earlier/later holders of a political office or winners of an award). I've never used an organismal navbox to browse related topics. 2710: 1700: 177: 3600:. I echo the caution expressed by the editors above. Of all the higher level taxonomic ranks, changing that of Kingdom is bound to be the most problematic. The terms "Animal Kingdom" and "plant kingdom" are just too ingrained in most readers understanding and will be a major hurdle for the scientific community at large before they adopt such a "radical" change in papers and text books. It could be a generation before this one is settled enough to reflect in the taxoboxes of an encyclopedia. 5325:
creators see an opportunities for yet another mechanical assemblage of boxified content,they do not tend to be maintainers of their creations, that falls to those concerned with uncited and contradictory data in our articles. For me, the biggest objection is the mess it makes of incoming links, which is why categories and some lists can be useful, I place a high value on the cross-referencing of properly cited content. Still, the banana box is lovely,
31: 2045:). But I run across many instances where one or both of the disease/cause articles are stubs and run into a bit of resistance on proposed mergers solely on the assumption that a disease name is totally different from the organism name. Similarly, sometimes even when there is only one article, under the disease name, people reject the addition of a taxobox on the basis of it being a 'disease' and not a 'fungus' or whatever the taxon is. 4416:
they were regarded as significantly distinct, while now they are being argued to be virtually the same. Sorry, not buying it. If it was not assigned to a above genus level because of lack of diversity, it's the wrong argument also, as as soon as it has a descendent, it has to go all the way to above the descendent's level without consideration of diversity for it to work in a modern, phylogenetically determined taxonomy.
4200:– we don't have to reflect the very latest view expressed in a primary source like a journal, but can wait to see if other sources pick it up. I would certainly discuss Adl et al. (2019) in articles, just as I added text discussing the earlier Adl et al. system. It's just a fact that a taxobox can only show one of the possible views, and the consensus has been that this view should not have inconsistent ranks. 2174:
the fungal or viral thingamajig that lives on the parasite. I think that keeping them separate is the solution, adding a note or expanding stubs is simpler than untangling forks or knotty lumps. That is not to say that a taxon or disease article ought not to be expanded with the related info instead of creating the stub, but I don't think the reader would gain more by merging two stubs with a different scope.
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not resolved" To me these arguments sound very contortionist, where showing the true consensus direct phylogenetic status is inhibited by the consensus of the naming convention. To me it is clear showing the phylogenetic status is more important than following the naming, especially when everyone is already making cases that the naming is not consistent.
3103:. This is one suggestion among many. It is evident that taxonomy at kingdom level (and above) is in turmoil and will eventually result in a quite different tree of life. Policy is to wait until the situation stabilises and there is sufficient agreement for the way ahead to be clear, as summarised in reliable secondary sources like review articles. 5300:, but those examples have a few problems, in my mind. First, they are gigantic and so are then less useful. Second, they basically replicate much of what's in a Taxobox. But they are typically collapsed and way at the bottom, so not so much of a negative. Personally I'd like them to include links to related topics not found in taxoboxes, like 3205:
paper at doi:10.1111/jeu.12691 is a synthesis of primary research with a wide range of authorship and so, I believe, presents a system we can legitimately use. Personally, I'm still digesting it. There are two different issues: what are the main clades that should be recognized, e.g. in taxoboxes, and what names should be used for these clades."
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the confusion between inconsistency and consensus. Proposing here to make clear which of these three issues is being addressed in each comment. In any case, the comments make it clear that this is not just about Adl et al, but about many more phylogenies (Birds in Dinosaurs, genus Homo in genus Australopithecus, just to start...)
2196:)". One article might still make sense, but the writing has to reflect the use of raspberry spur blight as the common name for both the disease and the organism (which are not the same thing logically as something can't cause itself). It would need an opening sentence like "Raspberry spur blight is the common name of the fungus 3227:"the scientific literature continues to use these inconsistent ranks regardless." --- It has no choice but to use what there is, and where appropriate to object to it, add to it, point out inconsistencies, propose resolutions, adduce new evidence, and so on. All of these are strategies which we can't, shouldn't, or ( 3934:
adopted by others (i.e there is consensus). This makes is a good potential secondary source for the overall topology of the eukaryote taxonomy. Whether to abandon named ranks is a secondary question that can be decided independently. Here I agree there will be no consensus and unlikely to be so for a long time.
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Yes to the comment above. After looking a bit more closely, I am wrong - although some should be merged, others just need the English label to be changed. This is because the items represent names and unfortunately there is no way of identifying organisms (which can each have many names). So every
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I'm not a fan of them. I hate the mess they make of incoming links (although that is only a problem for editors, not readers). They impose a maintenance burden; they are yet another place that needs to be edited to keep taxonomy up to date (and in practice they are NOT being maintained). Navboxes for
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I've suggested some alternative ways of fixing inconsistent ranks in taxonomy templates. They could make it easier to deal with the problem of inconsistent classification systems, e.g. the ones used for birds and dinosaurs, or the ones used for mammals and dinosaurs. Be warned that it's a long post,
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I meant consensus about particular phylogenies. In this discussion there appears to be a conflation about the discussion about whether there is consensus about particular inconsistent taxonomies and whether inconsistent taxonomies are "admissible" on wikipedia at all. The other possible conflation is
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This is the phrasing they use: "We assembled the classification according to the principles outlined elsewhere, and we refer the reader to the introductions of both Adl et al. 2005 and 2012 for background information, and to Adl et al. 2007 for a discussion. Briefly, we adopted a hierarchical system
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You realize how many arguments you just made, which you wouldn't necessarily have made if Australopithecus already had e.g. a tribe status? "It's paraphyletic", " It's not really a genus", "It doesn't present a taxonomy" "Hominini sensu strictu is available" "You don't have to show every node" "It's
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In the example of raspberry spur blight there are already several taxa involved. The condition is the result of the pathogenic taxon and an infected taxon. A condition or disease is the product of the interaction of two or more organisms, the cause in the name may be the vector, or its parasite, or
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Looking ahead, the thirtieth birthday of the World Wide Web falls in 2019, and yet the ambition to make webpages routinely readable by machines can still seem an ever-retreating mirage. Wikidata should not only be helping Wikimedia integrate its projects, an ongoing process represented by Structured
262:. Translation: scripting for automation, version control, data set matching and wrangling in the large, are on the agenda also for contemporary library work. Certainly there is some possible common ground here. Time to understand rather more about the motivations that operate in the library sector. 5485:
in Wikidata, I came across these (on the surface) duplication errors. Wikidata does not allow 2 QIDs to possess identical labels AND descriptions, so these have to either get merged OR relabeled in some combination (either QID_1, or QID_2, or both), then have the appropriate descriptions applied. I
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That is the first navbox that I did not hate on sight, I like it in fact—like durian—if I hold my nose; but now I have that banana phone song in my head! The chiropteran navs are redundant to categories, lists, and articles, but are also pov without citations (which the taxo-nav-box does have). The
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Well, I think it has been explained multiple times now; even if the "solution" is a synthesis of older ideas, the synthesis itself is new and needs to be generally accepted. Otherwise, the implementation of it itself is "radical". Per the dictionary definition: "thoroughgoing or extreme, especially
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The ranks largely determine what is displayed. Remove the "classic" ranks and the taxobox classification will be emptied (no family, order, class, phylum, etc). This means changing the ranks in the taxonomy templates will change what is displayed in a large number of articles (thousands if a higher
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In proper English "nameless ranks" can only mean ranks with no name. Their system also "ignores endings of clade names", but that is another feature. That said, the article is poorly written and in some places its hard to decypher what they are trying to say. My reading is that their system doesn't
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Typically empty categories appear randomly about different topics and this happens when 1) a category has only one article and that article gets deleted or 2) recategorization occurs and a new category system replaces an older one or there is renaming going on. It's unusual to have 14 categories on
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I do a lot of work with categories and right now we are seeing many categories involving "invasive species" that are empty. Is there a recategorization going on or deletion of articles involving invasive species? Right now there are 14 invasive categories that have been tagged for deletion as empty
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I'm not in favor of including a Wikispecies template, and when editing a page for other reasons, I usually remove the template. The template is sometimes added willy-nilly without regard for whether Wikispecies actually has an article on the taxon (perhaps a bot could be employed to find and remove
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I don't think hybrids are inherently notable. I don't read French, but I gather that this moth hybrid was facilitated by humans raising the insects and isn't something that naturally occurs in the wild? There are tons of human created plant hybrids and they don't all need articles. It's fairly easy
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Against that major disadvantage, the advantages are that is clearly passes the reliable secondary source test, has chapters written by a wide selection of experts, and it provides a combination of being relatively up to date and conservative. The phylogenies in Simpson et al (2017) show polytomies
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It seems like people are responding to two totally unrelated questions (or more likely, I'm not understanding the discussion). Question 1 is "should we depart from Linnaean taxonomy ranks in infoboxes in order to display more precise and evolutionarily relevant taxa?" To that question, I currently
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You haven't answered the question about what is so radical. People seem to be rejecting it as radical without saying which part they consider radical. The Adl et al taxonomic hierarchy is conservative and based on extensive review of the literature over a long period; their supergroups are largely
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This is the comment of Peter Coxhead on my talk page about his view on the status of this synthesis paper "On the other hand, I'm very aware that deep phylogeny remains a fast moving subject, and by the time good secondary articles appear they tend to be out of date. However, the Adl et al. (2018)
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GLAM ♥ data — what is a gallery, library, archive or museum without a catalogue? It follows that Wikidata must love librarians. Bibliography supports students and researchers in any topic, but open and machine-readable bibliographic data even more so, outside the silo. Cue the WikiCite initiative,
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Of course, "But it's a chronogenus" was still the missing contortionist argument, which also would not have been made if Australopithecus had already been at the tribe level. And how do you put chrono-XXX in the taxoboxes again? Ironically, historically they were assigned separate genuses because
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Yes, there is a lack of consistency, but this reflects the literature. The best example is probably birds. If Class Aves is demoted, then the orders, superfamilies, even families used by ornithologists would need to be lowered in rank (and their endings changed accordingly). There are no reliable
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Can I request some comments on nav boxes for 'groups' of animals, in general, but especially those that provide a link to every other article in a family, for example, by one taxonomic classification of that group. I already have an opinion, but want to know how others view their presence in our
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Ignoring ranks, others have noted above (and below) that there are other hierarchies. However, the one in question does have the considerable merit of being proposed by multiple authors (unlike Cavalier-Smith's). So if it is taken up by other reliable sources, then in, say, a year's time, we can
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so i'm not liking the title of this article. The IUCN calls this the black-crowned dwarf marmoset which we use as an alternate name. We could go scientific name as title, but may be still under dispute? We can keep as is, but we are not usi g apostrophe at end per manual of style. The current
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Notable, but not an article at a glance. It should redirect to … I don't know, turns out to be a good question. Maybe collapse to a disambiguation or redirect to a section of one of the species article, in principle, frustrating that the article doesn't explain the hybridisation between separate
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well, it certainly wasn't clear to me that this is what you were trying to argue above. So can we now agree that is wrong to use the ranks in Adl et al. (2019) because of their effects on taxoboxes throughout many articles, and you won't change the ranks in the relevant taxonomy templates again
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researchers which are not affiliated with them. That is why it is radical, it is not widely accepted consensus, but something proposed by a specific research group. We need to establish that these ideas have gotten wide acceptance before we can do anything other than just mention their ideas in
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What might be radical is changes to the automatic taxonomy system that could result from implementing their rejection of traditional named rank names. This proposal is hardly new as that was part of their 2005 proposal and has long been advocated by others. It would have radical effects on how
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Please specify what you mean by radical then. Just proposing to allow wikipedia to reflect longstanding practice, without editors hawking at every inevitable inconsistency. I have seen many papers where authors acknowledge the inconsistency, and consent to leave it in place. The lesson is that
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Ignoring ranks, there are three different questions remaining - the hierarchy, for which Adl et al may well be as good a synthesis of the current state as knowledge as we can find, their nomenclature (e.g., they use Chloroplastida, where Viridiplantae seems to be the consensus usage), and the
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The problem is not using unranked taxa per se - they are already used in the taxoboxes for flowering plants (there's no consensus ranked classification above the rank of order for flowering plants) and for a variety of fossil groups. The immediate problem was inconsistent use of ranked taxa.
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Up to a point, it is possible to use taxonomy templates to support alternative systems, via skip and variant taxonomy templates, and we currently manage to do this – as I noted above – for dinosaurs and birds. (I have some ideas on how the system could better support alternatives, but that's
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Every time a page is edited (or null edited), all templates/modules/etc. are fully recursed (there is a recursion limit, but it's relatively high) and resolve to their final text, which is actually way messier than what you see in the editor (you can see for yourself by playing around with
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Not proposing a solution. Just proposing to follow the sources, not resolving the inconsistencies. However, wikipedia seems to be at odds with these inconsistencies, as they are consistently flagged and removed, even the ones over which there is consensus over keeping the inconsistencies.
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To avoid misunderstanding: not proposing here to change animal kingdom and plant kingdom. Just proposing keeping the long standing taxon names of the higher up clades, leading to inconsistencies, acknowledging the inconsistencies. Not clear where you think the Plant kingdom should be
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In fact there is a broad scope: "Open Knowledge Maps via SPARQL" and the "Sum of All Welsh Literature", identification of research outputs, Library.Link Network and Bibframe 2.0, OSCAR and LUCINDA (who they?), OCLC and Scholia, all these co-exist on the agenda. Certainly more
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Out of interest, how does that propagation work? Is it instantiated once when an article containing an affected box is accessed and a template change is found, and then it sticks for repeat viewings until the underlying template receives the next change (here, null edit)?
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Radical as in new and not widely known or used. Yes, there is inconsistency, this has been known for decades, but any proposed solution is what's radical, until it gains acceptance. And we only implement it when that happens, Knowledge follows sources, it doesn't lead.
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is that, firstly, the term itself needs considerable unpacking, because just being able to read material online is a poor relation of "open"; and secondly, trying to get Creative Commons license information into Wikidata shows up issues with classes of license (such as
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All comments here appear to presume that the taxonomic ranking needs to be "resolved" before it can be committed into wikipedia. However, the scientific literature continues to use these inconsistent ranks regardless. The most prescient examples currently are kingdom
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in every way I can think of, and it's accounting for all that I can throw at it (like different ways to wrap italics around it, the need to be able to insert material, like an infraspecific term, that is not italicized, and so on). Even had to create a new
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where there is doubt, wheras another potential source (Silar 2016) is much bolder at presenting detailed trees. Incidentally, there are a number of Knowledge articles with phylogenies attributed to Silar (2016) that bear little resemblance to them (e.g. in
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and see chapter 20 of amounting to textbook examples. By the way, in this case textbooks may actually be ahead of scientific publications, because I read that in anthropology scientists are especially careful due to the sensitive nature of the subject.
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from the University of Mannheim allows Zotero bibliographies to be exported to Wikidata, by item creation. With an extra feature to add statements, that route could lead to much development of the focus list (P5008) tagging on Wikidata, by WikiProjects.
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english name is a reference to 2 close relatives named Roosmalen, not a single person named Roosmalens. I know I'm getting pretty detailed, but I thought I'd deal with it now, now that I'm here....Do we use Roosmalen's, Roosmalens's, or Roosmalens?....
3181:. These are not recent problems either, which will imminently be resolved. For the record: E.g. Australopithecus/Australopithecus is recognized as paraphyletic since 2001. E.g. Embryophytes/Embryophyceae in green algae since Lewis & McCourt 2004. 4753:
is available online but only the chapter abstracts are free. The latter undermines its goal of providing a "community resource". When I made the suggestion I was under the impression that the introductory chapter by Simpson et al (2017) was freely
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My personal view is that eventually we will have to accept that the traditional classification schemes place many Linnaean ranks far too low down, but that we should not change until multiple reliable secondary sources do so (i.e. we should follow
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However, mobile view doesn't include Wikispecies in the list of interwiki links, and taxonbar isn't displayed in mobile view either. Perhaps consideration of mobile view is sufficient reason to include the template (playing devil's advocate here)?
2265:)". But there are counter examples in stenophagic lepidoptera, in that people sometimes talk about the horse chestnut, rather the horse chestnut moth, etc. But in general the name of the disease is not the same as the name of the causative agent. 4021:
Apologies if I'm wrong, but some comments above suggest that the issue isn't entirely clear to everyone. Suppose the hierarchy has been set up in taxonomy templates. Then suppose it's changed to . Then, since kingdom is a rank always displayed,
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But my point is that the two statements you made are essentially the same. If there is a one to one mapping of disease and causative organism, especially to the point that two articles could not be supported. If the fungus were called
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Adl, Sina M.; Bass, David; Lane, Christopher E.; Lukeš, Julius; Schoch, Conrad L.; Smirnov, Alexey; Agatha, Sabine; Berney, Cedric; Brown, Matthew W. (2019), "Revisions to the Classification, Nomenclature, and Diversity of Eukaryotes",
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expansion of templates. A particular issue is the presence of a page in an error-tracking category added by a template – viewing the page can show it to be ok, but the cache still has it in the category, until you perform a null edit.
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Wikispecies templates on en.wiki when Wikispecies doesn't have a corresponding article?). There are a fair number of stubs with the template where there isn't enough text to keep the template from extending the article vertically; (
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Ian McDougall; Leakey, Louise N.; Kiarie, Christopher; Patrick N. Gathogo; Brown, Frank H.; Spoor, Fred; Kiarie, Christopher; Leakey, Meave G. (2001). "New hominin genus from eastern Africa shows diverse middle Pliocene lineages".
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So there is no way yet on wikipedia to systematically reflect the inconsistencies pointed out in the literature is what you are basically saying here. There should be no shield to protect wikipedia from the scientific literature.
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article it looked odd to me that the taxobox title was the disease name rather than the organism name. The taxobox is about the organism, not the disease, so this seems a case where the taxobox shouldn't follow the page title.
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stated as "bad data drives out good". Knowledge and now Wikidata have been criticised on related grounds: what if their content, unattributed, is taken to have a higher standing than Wikimedians themselves would grant it? See
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taxoboxes are displayed. There also seems some confusion about the Linnean ranks they indicate in Table 1, which seems to advocate kingdoms Bilateria and Embryophta, but this is not part of their formal proposal in Table 2.
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does do a great job. Placeholders must be detected, and working with Wikidata is a good way to understand how having one statement as data can blind us to replacing it by a more accurate one. An example that is important to
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and the name of the disease caused by infection of certain plants by this fungus". If this sentence cannot be written clearly and unambiguously, it could be taken as a sign that merging to articles is not such a good idea.
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The article is on the disease, the taxobox is titled after the organism causing the disease. That seems to be the appropriate combination unless the disease and organism are notably enough for separate articles.
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Encyclopedias aren't research papers. There's no reason why we shouldn't have some vaguely sensible process, either. A. St-E. relied for his safety on first servicing his plane, then refuelling it, then doing
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It seems to me clear that the answer is "no, we don't" and I strongly favour removing them. (A similar argument applies when a taxonomic database is in the taxonbar and also in the "External links" section.)
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I agree that one article makes more sense than two when the organism and disease are so interrelated. However, I'm not convinced that the disease name is necessarily a common name for the organism. In the
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scheme of dinosaur taxonomy was proposed a few years ago, and it hasn't yet been implemented in taxoboxes, simply because there is no scientific consensus yet. That should be the general approach here.
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one subject to appear unless it's an intention editing project. So, I thought I'd post here in case anything funny is going on because I hope members of WikiProject Tree of Life would know about this.
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be able to use Adl et al. (2019) complete with ranks for, say, "protists", while using more traditional systems for multicellular organisms, although I haven't yet worked out how this might be set up.
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and the disease were "Raspberry Didymella blight" would that be okay for a single article? Would two stubs be preferable? I'm trying to understand the reasoning, i'm not trying to be annoying. --
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Simpson, Alastair G.B.; Slamovits, Claudio H.; Archibald, John M. (2017). "Protist Diversity and Eukaryote Phylogeny". In Archibald, John M.; Simpson, Alastair G.B.; Slamovits, Claudio H. (eds.).
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If "follow the literature" means making changes to tens or hundreds of thousands of articles, only for the changes to be reversed or reworked a few months later, then we should resolutely oppose.
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sources for this that I am aware of, nor any sign that ornithologists are likely to take this route. So we just have to cope with different systems. Hopefully not more than one per WikiProject!
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Not proposing anything like that here. Just proposing to allow wikipedia to reflect longstanding inconsistencies. Two issues are being conflated: inconsistency and reliability of the sources.
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Do we need three links to Wikispecies on each taxon page: lefthand sidebar, taxonbar, and a separate template? Because of the redundancy with the sidebar and taxonbar, I've been removing the
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has been feature-expanded to handle all kinds of cases (including their italicization, no italics on the "×", capitalization, spaces that should be non-breaking and/thin, etc.). Examples:
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Ruggiero, Michael A.; Gordon, Dennis P.; Orrell, Thomas M.; Bailly, Nicolas; Bourgoin, Thierry; Brusca, Richard C.; Cavalier-Smith, Thomas; Guiry, Michael D.; Kirk, Paul M. (2015-04-29).
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taxon). This behaviour of the system could be changed if there was consensus, but as things are currently set up, taxon ranks matter. That is why such changes need to be discussed first.
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I don't remember making changes to the ranks in any Eukaryote taxonomy templates. I've changed a few parents, but none based on Adl et al (2019), which I hadn't seen until this weekend.
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I agree it does appear to be flagged somewhere. Also in the templates themselves sometimes are reddish flagging shows up. The question then is whether it should always be acted upon.
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a necessary article (given the fact that it's only got two sources it doesn't seem to meet GNG), or should there just be a note in each respective species that they can interbreed? ♠
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authoritative source. We shouldn't jump the gun, nor automatically accept the newest scheme as true (or 'best') simply because it's newest (or in an open-access journal, creating a
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recently and since there is a basic template for these types of pages, I think it would be helpful if we had a bit clearer guidelines to distinguish the class categories. Thanks! —
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Wikimedians generally are not aware of the tech background that can be assumed, unless they are close to current training for librarians. A baseline definition is useful here: "
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Please bear in mind that "nameless" only appears to refers to the endings of the names, not necessarily completely rankless. The above comments appear to assume ranklessness.
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was to document the information at the articles of each species, then delete the hybrid article as non-notable. I think I might do that, but instead of deletion, redirect to
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Hmmm, but has anyone demonstrated that the term "chimpanzee" doesn't include both the common chimpanzee and the bonobo/pygmy chimpanzee? If not, I see no point in a move.
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Knowledge has now turned 18, so should act like as adult, as well as being treated like one. The Web itself turns 30 some time between March and November this year, per
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I've suggested some alternative ways of fixing inconsistent ranks in taxonomy templates that might make it easier to deal with part of the issue being discussed here.
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There is also the issue of monophyly of Porifera, although last I looked it is considered monophyletic again. Sponges will be appropriate regardles of any changes.
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doesn't this type of situation throw errors? As in, when a template is published that has out of order ranks, does it pop up in a cleanup category or something? --
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Also, with fossils, there's the problem of unresolveable early taxa - diverse and distinct group B might be nested in group A, but you can't tell exactly where.
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Please describe "affecting". Specifically, what goes wrong in the wikipedia automatic taxonomy system for an inconsistent taxonomy, other than being flagged?
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I assume someone tried to update the information in a simple way, which left inconsistencies in the taxobox and elsewhere. There is already an article on the
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The alarming thing is that I can not see them, but I see it seems to be spat out as a "zero-width non-breaking space". Thanks for the reality check.
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I'd forgotten about mobile view. The best answer, I think, would be to alter mobile view, so that the taxonbar can be expanded from some small icon.
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Ah, thank you! This is exactly why I didn't venture into this group of items, except only for the obvious cases, of which I guess there are few.
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P.S. I think the same points are already given at the outset, I just fancy I am looking at this from a different angle. 03:05, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
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FWIW, I null edited the ~2000 direct transclusions of the 2 above templates, but I know of no easy way to obtain a list of their cascading uses.
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Would I be right in thinking that the problem isn't in using the hierarchy in Adl et al per se, but in assigning Linnaean ranks to their clades?
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Fig. 1 doesn't present a taxonomy. That aside, Hominini sensu strictu is available (as are Hominina sensu lato and Australopithecina sensu lato).
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stability of the data (I have the impression that protist trees haven't stabilised to the degree that say angiosperms or pteridophytes have).
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Does that must mean visitors to a page are served a cache of the rendered page rather than a new version using all the templates and modules?
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is coming Wikidata's way. That poses the question about the other direction: is more Wikimedia technology advancing on libraries? Good point.
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don't have the time/patience/knowledge to fix all of these accurately nor quickly, so I'm leaving it here for more capable editors to fix!
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is Lua-based – the Lua function is used directly by all the automated taxobox templates. Thus {{Taxon italics|Felis silvestris catus}} gives
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Thank you, this is most usefull. Anything else? (Because this particular issue, for this particular rank, appears to be easily addressable)
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I've noticed the inflation of incoming links by nav boxes before - bit of an irritation if you're trying to disambiguate incoming links.
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Changing the taxon names of the higher up clades based is one thing, although we should discuss it first. Changing the ranks is another;
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A pilot project at WP:Gastropods for systematically identifying and cleaning up unaccepted ("invalid") taxon articles, see discussion:
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on clarifying the distinction between stubs and starts for articles about species and other taxa. I looked at the assessment pages for
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Once again conflating the issues of sources and the issues of permissibility of inconsistent taxonomy. And just trying to follow e.g.
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It seems to me that following the convention, the sentence would be "Raspberry spur blight is caused by raspberry spur blight fungus (
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That one author (and his group) has published several papers over many years doesn't create a consensus; it needs to be accepted by
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We should always discuss all alternative classification systems that are appropriately sourced in the text of the relevant articles.
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Just proposing here to follow the literature: Removing ranks just because it is inconsistent is not following the reliable sources.
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nothing, just waiting for a few more responses....more sources use Rossmalen (and variations thereof) as a common name however....
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Hmm, yeah, if the Taxonbar is supposed to help replace long External links sections, it should definitely be visible on mobile. —
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as a secondary source for Eukaryote phylogeny? The introduction by Simpson et al (2017) has a reasonable consensus phylogeny.
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in the taxoboxes because of the genus in genus situation. Try it, you will fail! This is almost literally a textbook example.
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Peter might, like I did a couple of times, have been confused by you having an, at a glance, similar username to Jmv2009.
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as well as showing the offending ranks shaded in red when you view a twxonomy template, it puts the taxonomy template in
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that uses an automated taxobox – likely tens of thousands of articles about subspecies, species, genera, families, etc. (
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thanks, that was very helpful – a couple of different errors were hidden in the error-tracking categories by these ones.
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Rugierro et al, 2015 had Embryophyta as a superphylum. I guess the main argument here is that we need multiple sources.
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Protecting from literature may sound ridiculous, but is it though?: e.g., once again, I can't put the tree of fig.1 of
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sensu lato as a broader group would be the parent, say, if considered a tribe. There must be some taxonomies treating
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community, and growing networks around other approaches that can integrate datasets into Wikidata, such as the use of
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Yes, that is what I have been trying to argue above. The hierarchy and use of named ranks are two separate qustions.
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However, you don't have to name every node in a cladogram, and you don't have to show every named node in a taxobox.
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has 173,545 transclusions) – will have a taxobox containing two kingdoms. There's absolutely no consensus for this!
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Adl et al. (2019) proposes a revised classication scheme for eukaryotes, updating their 2012 system, among others.
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Write a Zotero translator and document process for creating new Zotero translator and getting it live in production
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I know this may be considered a bend by some, but if you really boil it down, the name of a disease, for example
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I think the fungus examples are duplicates which should be merged. I will try to look into it sooner or later.
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for you, they may be able to answer the question "is the Pope Catholic?" Possibly by asking for disambiguation (
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There is also a large-scale encyclopedic dimension here. The construction of Zotero translators is one facet of
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The more TOL eyeballs the better - they might not all be true duplicates, but they all need something fixed.
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violation by lending one hypothesis undue weight. Let's at least wait until the scheme is more widely adopted.
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Taxoboxes cannot properly show alternative systems, so they should use the established consensus for the group.
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The disease article, organism article, or both are stubs and likely to remain that way, or one is non-existant.
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Hi, sorry about my lack of response over the past couple days. I appreciate the input - one suggestion over at
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do you know why the taxonbar is suppressed in mobile view? Is it part of the general policy on nav templates?
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The other source of protist (and in this case prokaryote as well) classifications is Cavalier-Smith (et al).
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be, whereas all that matters is what the consensus is in reliable secondary sources. No more here from me.
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Nifty. It actually seemed to work okay when I fed it such a hybrid name, though I suggested some tweaks at
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Is it the monophyly or its contents? Archaeoplastida could be expanded to include Cryptista and Picozoa.
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And would anything be wrong with just moving the article to the IUCN name (black-crowned dwarf marmoset)?
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discussion is contingent on the outcome, the title of chimpazzz … erm, that other article on the species
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This gets complicated, but solutions might posssible. First there are some semantic issues to consider.
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use formal ranks and the ranks they give are for comparative purposes and not part of their proposal.
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are now familiar, but the unannounced circulation of information raises other issues. One of those is
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Taxoboxes should not show inconsistent Linnaean ranks, like two kingdoms, or a family above an order.
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as regards change from accepted or traditional forms: a radical change in the policy of a company".
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but it very much needs input, particularly from "old hands" at using the automated taxobox system.
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take much of their data from Knowledge, one way or another. So as well as getting Spotify to play
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I would say no. In fact, it seems such examples are usually covered in overview articles, such as
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As Peter Coxhead pointed out, the article begins "Raspberry spur blight is caused by the fungus
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templates, usually as part of other edits, but sometimes other editors replace them. Thoughts? —
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Knowledge talk:Automated taxobox system/Archive 13#Criteria for display of a taxon in a taxobox
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I am so sorry. it was a simple honest mistake. Sarsath3 (talk) 04:26, 17 December 2018 (CTZ)
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Something I meant to do a long time ago but keep not getting around to has finally been done:
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for the usual quip about "law and sausages", and why one shouldn't watch them in the making.
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I think the point is that the article begins "Raspberry spur blight is caused by the fungus
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we're not going to get anywhere, because you are defending your personal view as to what a
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https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0034/0217/0435/files/Life_Sciences_NW_Sep_2018_P2_QP.pdf
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articles. If a consensus hasn't emerged since 2005, I don't see why we have to rush here.
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proponent and popularizer of new taxonomic schemes or clades that are absent in virtually
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phylogenies? Let's have a discussion about consensus later to avoid conflation of issues.
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A disease is caused by a single organism and the organism only causes that single disease
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To muddy the waters further, someone has just switched the primary species name (box) in
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So interesting, I'm looking forward to the part that references Saint‐Exupéry, A. 1943.
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Ongoing post-Caftaric clean-up to reduce over-categorization. See additional discussion
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that has a strong community and open source basis. In that it resembles the less formal
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I'm more of a durian fan, myself. In any event, I don't have objections with navboxes
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all of the categories starting with 'Sponges' be made to start with 'Poriferans' (e.g.
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I've commented on the page you've wikilinked above, but these are not all duplicates.
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With regards to stability, the monophyly of Archaeoplastida remains an open question.
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Navboxes are like marmite. Some people can't get enough of them and other hate them.
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Besides the handiness of Zotero's warehousing of personal citation collections, the
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should be used in these case if a templated Wikispecies link is provided at all).
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Archibald, John M.; Simpson, Alastair G.B.; Slamovits, Claudio H., eds. (2017).
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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If there is consensus to use the ranks in the Adl et al. (2019) system, then
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Take my comment as a blanket statement. We were also cautious when the new
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would be appreciated; there seem to be good arguments either way. Cheers --
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in 2014 (Committee on Taxonomy 2014, Jefferson and Rosenbaum 2014)". The
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At best, create an article about moth hybrids and dump them all there.
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since it's the easiest and the least disruptive, but I can help with
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Small changes to the criteria for the display of a taxon in a taxobox
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The general guideline should be to merge the articles and include a
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Knowledge has been staying away from the apostrophe at the end....
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revisit the question of whether to use its names and hierarchy.
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Perhaps cover it in a section of a higher level taxon article.
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Knowledge has been staying away from the apostrophe at the end
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Request for comment: new classification scheme for eukaryotes
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is it available online? Researchgate only has an abstract.
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shield to protect wikipedia from the scientific literature
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