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MPF, the zoological code doesn't give such rules for higher level taxa, and doesn't insist on a priority system, which would change a fair number of current groups (e.g., most fish orders). Even if it did, it wouldn't apply here, because the taxa under consideration may not quite be synonyms (i.e.
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names, but it provides the legislative framework of how names are correctly selected, by date of first publication, construction (e.g. family names must end -idae, not anything else, so if someone described a new family ending in say, -alara, it would be invalidly formed), etc. So contained within
131:, as I'm more of a plants person!), so can't really help beyond this. You'll also need to know which was published first of Placentalia / Eutheria, etc (in general, the older name is the right one to use, unless it breaches one of the other provisions of the code). Hope this helps! - 114:
Another reason that ICZN may not have the answer: there are a number of potentially 'correct answers' that can be used to classify mammals, and only one will be chosen in the ICZN. The purpose of this poll is for Wikipaedia users to choose the system they feel makes the most
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Why would ICZN have the answer? It doesn't rule on names, only on the form they can take, and doesn't enforce any sort of priority system. I think the prsence of both systems in current literature suggests both are acceptable.
208:, there don't seem to be any more votes cast. As such, I intend to implement what has been recommended by those who did vote. The result: Monotremata-Marsupialia-Placentalia in the lead by a factor of three.-- 33: 183:
Agreed. Its probably fair to say that System 1 is the winner. However, I would like to post this message on Talk:WikiProject Tree of Life before the alterations are made.--
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depending on what extinct forms they include) and vary somewhat in rank. As said, that both systems are common is an indication both are theoretically acceptable. -
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Along the way, I realised that the system I presented first, tabulating the votes in September, was not the best way to choose a system. So the new system is this:
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the principles of the ICZN, it will be possible to conclude which name is the correct one to apply in each case. Unfortunately, I don't have the ICZN (just the
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Those users, if any, that supported it, will be notified on their user pages that their preferred candidate has been dropped, and they should vote again.
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The system with the majority after this will be selected when more than thirty votes have been cast, or the end of October is reached.
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It's been over a week since voting started. I think it's reasonable to say we aren't going to get any more votes here. -
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When more than fifteen users have cast their votes for the remaining four candidates, the count will be taken again.
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Those users who voted from the rejected system will be notified that they need to cast their votes again.
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I don't have a copy myself, but the correct answer will be readily available by reference to the
32:. The result of that discussion was to archive the page. For an archive of the discussion, see 166: 109: 152:) said that the Eutheria-Metatheria-Prototheria system was first proposed by Thomas Huxley 72:
When twenty users have cast their votes on the remaining three, the count will be taken.
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If any system has less than 20% of the vote, it will be dropped from the ballot.
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The voters for the dropped system will be notified that they must vote again.
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Any system with less than 25% of the vote will be dropped from the ballot.
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Hi Ingoolemo - "Why would ICZN have the answer?": True it doesn't rule on
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When more than ten users have cast their votes, the count will be taken.
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Any system having less than a third of the vote will be dropped.
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As to which was published first, the article under one of the
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I'm guessing no. But could someone answer on my talk page.--
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the earlier Placentalia-Marsupialia-Monotremata system. --
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171: 148:s (I cannot recall which, but I think it was 96:International Code of Zoological Nomenclature 18:Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Tree of Life 8: 172:We aren't going to get any more votes here 204:As was pointed out to me recently by 7: 30:Knowledge (XXG):Votes for deletion 24: 139:Sorry for the misunderstanding. 1: 225:02:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC) 240: 212:21:21, 2004 Jun 22 (UTC) 187:02:38, 2004 Jun 10 (UTC) 119:07:09, 2004 May 31 (UTC) 195:15:53, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC) 180:12:09, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC) 135:08:41, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC) 103:12:05, 30 May 2004 (UTC) 28:This page was listed on 160:03:51, 2004 Jun 3 (UTC) 216:Is this still open 231: 239: 238: 234: 233: 232: 230: 229: 228: 218: 202: 200:Current Results 174: 92: 44: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 237: 235: 217: 214: 201: 198: 197: 196: 173: 170: 162: 161: 141: 140: 91: 86: 85: 84: 81: 80: 79: 73: 70: 69: 68: 62: 59: 58: 57: 51: 43: 40: 39: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 236: 227: 226: 223: 215: 213: 211: 207: 199: 194: 190: 189: 188: 186: 181: 179: 169: 168: 159: 155: 151: 147: 143: 142: 138: 137: 136: 134: 130: 125: 120: 118: 112: 111: 105: 104: 101: 97: 90: 87: 82: 77: 76: 74: 71: 66: 65: 63: 60: 55: 54: 52: 49: 48: 47: 41: 38: 37: 35: 31: 19: 219: 203: 182: 175: 163: 153: 145: 123: 121: 113: 106: 93: 45: 27: 25: 191:Agreed. - 150:Metatheria 124:individual 210:Ingoolemo 185:Ingoolemo 158:Ingoolemo 117:Ingoolemo 222:ZayZayEM 206:UtherSRG 193:UtherSRG 178:UtherSRG 115:sense.-- 146:-theria 42:Voting 154:after 16:< 167:Josh 129:ICBN 110:Josh 89:ICZN 133:MPF 100:MPF 26:'' 36:.

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Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Tree of Life
Knowledge (XXG):Votes for deletion
Knowledge (XXG):Votes for deletion/WP:TOL/Marsupial poll
ICZN
International Code of Zoological Nomenclature
MPF
12:05, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
Josh
Ingoolemo
ICBN
MPF
Metatheria
Ingoolemo
Josh
UtherSRG
Ingoolemo
UtherSRG
UtherSRG
Ingoolemo
ZayZayEM
02:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

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