Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Archive 10

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other graph shows each classification as a percentage of our total articles; when the left and right edges of the graph are compared, there are definite differences in the numbers from May to the numbers now. Sometimes the rate of improvement appears slow, but over time, it adds up. Hopefully, these will be helpful for the newsletter, which should be in the production stage right now...

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better site should be found. Crazy, that's not exactly what I meant. I mean other countries regarding how exactly we inflate it. Do we convert 1999 MXN to 1999 USD, for example, and inflate to 2006 USD using US calcs, or should we convert 1999 MXN to 2006 MXN using GDP deflator, and then to 2006 USD? The latter would be good, though I don't know of any websites that do that.

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may be a number of other factual errors within the article. Direct links were make into refs, some no break spaces were added where numbers and units were side by side, and the sections were reordered into (what seems to be) a more logical order. This is only my second attempt at improving an article from GA, so feedback (positive or negative) would be appreciated.

1269:- This one will be difficult. It has the most important storms, and of the 68 names there are still a lot that need a lot of work on. Seven are FA's (Gloria, Mitch, Floyd, Allison, Fabian, Dennis, and Katrina), eight are GA's or A's (Audrey, Camille, David, Andrew, Georges, Keith, Charley, and Ivan), and four are stubs (Edna, Janet, Gracie, and Flora). 2494:? We should not restrict our core to a limited number of articles. Instead we should consider what constitutes the core. In non-storm articles, that is fairly easy to express, but with storms notability can come from 2 things: impact and records. In the scheme above what would happen if a Category 4 direct hit NYC in 2007? Drop Katrina to high?-- 1597:

tree outside a greenhouse, according to local police" v.s. "Also in Nobeoka, a 42-year-old man was found dead Sunday in a crushed bedroom littered with roof tiles and glass splinters while an 84-year-old woman farmer was knocked dead by a fallen tree outside a greenhouse, according to local police". –

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Depends on the number found and analyzed. They could of course be multiple redirects to one page. Also I was thinking Florida and Texas could be further subdivided if they got too long, if the coverage scale is broad. For example, Florida could go to Florida Panhandle, North Florida, Central Florida,

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Billion dollar U.S. hurricanes (2005 inflated)- With 42 of them, this one might be a little hard, but at least there is plenty of information on them. Included are billion dollar retired Atlantic hurricanes from above, Hurricane Iniki, Hurricane Juan (85), TS Leslie (00), and TS Claudette (79). Seven

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the seasons just a version of the article box. We also should get rid of the "helper" templates and automagically calculate the unit conversions in these templates. In addtion we should be able to note what basin we are in (for priority of units). In the long term we may be able to condense further,

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I'm a little leery about using something like that. The site doesn't look official in any means. It doesn't say where it gets the sources for back to 1666 (only 1914 to present, which mine has). Additionally, it says it guesses for the future (past 2014), and present to 2014 are estimates. I think a

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Looking at the great tables above that Tito made, it makes me realize that A-class articles are very underused. Basically, they are divided into articles that are ready for FAC and those that still need a good bit of work. Do we really have much of a use for A class? Those that are A right now could

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which had been waiting for almost a month and there's plenty where that came from. A lot of the problem seems to be that you guys make too many good articles but are, let's face it, boring to read for the non-cyclone fanatic. Not that that is your fault, it's just all of those important details that

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and various other sources. Re-arranging the copied text to insert them at different places isn't enough. Compare: "Also in Nobeoka, a 42-year-old man was found dead Sunday in a crushed bedroom littered with roof tiles and glass splinters while an 84-year-old woman farmer was knocked dead by a fallen

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meteorology articles reaching those two levels before I threw in a meteorology box on top of the Katrina article. It does not appear that the tropical cyclone project articles get included in meteorology automatically, and they clearly appear to be within the scope of that project as well. Just an

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This is from a discussion on the IRC channel. Basically, we have too many templates for our infoboxes and I think we should try and consolidate them down to a limited number. I feel the initial goal should be one template for storms, one for individual seasons and one for multiple-season articles -

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Nice work on the templates. For the actual articles, I'm not sure if all of them are needed. Mexico, for example, would be fine having maybe five total (Yucatan Peninsula, southwest Mexico, Bay of Campeche/Gulf Coast states, northwest Mexico, and Baja California). Cuba would be fine just being List

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Great work with the graphs. Would it be possible to the categorization more easliy by breaking up the WPTC into the three categories? Meteorology has their articles split by topic (tornado, floods, etc), so splitting it by seasons, storms, and other could keep things organized so things wouldn't be

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That is one long article...it may take a while for several of us to make it an FA. =) I added a number of links when there were cn's in the text, with a couple of them eliminating some factual errors (like the 18 annual typhoons the Philippines were supposed to receive!) It's so long, that there

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Well, EPAC retired canes would be pretty easy, which is why I mentioned it (it took 10 minutes to think of 2003 AHS). You're right though; unless we find out whether they were retired for damage, it might be difficult. The biggest problem with 2005 is that it needs major redoing/expanding for three

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I for one would trust your guys' opinions more. I find it more likely that an article would be passed that contained major lack of needed information (that we just didn't know was needed) than one of you trying to glorify the project by passing them easily. Besides, they can always be caught latter

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Heh, so true. Actually, I was thinking we should have two FAC's at the most (3 is a bit too much). One would be the big impact/lots of info storm article, while the other is the lesser impact one that comprehensive with not terribly much info (like fish storms and low-impact storms). Should we make

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talk page because I wasn't sure of the policy of uploading satellite images you created with other programs. Anyway, its kind of fun making these things with the HRPT data, and you can produce really spectacular results with it. Here's a familiar image of Hurricane Andrew, except with most of the

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Also, I posted two additional graphs, which I found to be very useful. The first one shows our validated content; as apparent there from the slopes of the graphs, our rate of approval at GA, FA, and our A-Class assessment page is either equal or greater to the rate of creation of new articles. The

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Well, this isn't much of a flood, having just one FAC at a time. 2006 PTS articles are pretty good, probably good enough to pass in an FAC, though it's practically guaranteed they will be changed in the future with the post-season reports. I'm sure the FAC people are getting sick of the low impact

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of the latest archive (Archive 7) for talk page stuff that never got dealt with. Does anyone here want to take on brushing up a featured article so that it maintains its high standards, instead of degrading over time and looking like it was written about intensively at the time but not maintained

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At any given time for the last four months, there's between 115 and 120 B-Class articles; it seems the number is stuck there. Same with Start-Class, which is stuck between 400-410, and Stub-Class, which has been a flat line since year, hovering at 155 articles. These articles are mostly hurricane

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Oh my..... Alright, I do not believe "the only known cyclone in an entire basin is pretty important". From my perspective, probably the only notable thing the storm ever did was impacting Brazil, and that was nothing - compared with Tracy or Katrina. Any cyclones that were notable only because of

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offshore the Southeast has led me to create and fill out other extratropical cyclone/blizzard/nor'easter articles. I've noticed a couple of people currently and previously in the tropical cyclone part of the project have been assigning extratropical cyclones equivalent Saffir-Simpson categories

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Reviewers cannot be heavily involved with writing the articles though...it is one thing to be involved in the project, but another to be writing the articles a lot (and putting them up). Yes, there is a backlog - and some articles have even bypassed that by going straight from B to A class - and

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One main reason is that a lot of us feel a potential conflict of interest in passing something related to the project. In the past it has come up, and no real agreement was reached as to whether or not WPTC members should be passing WPTC articles (Failing, though, is a whole different ball game,

130:, and we can easily make half of those FAs. So, the question is, with the current climate that begs to identify all high-quality content, do we want to flood FA with a ton of hurricane articles? (Not all simultaneously, but sending all that we can over a period of time.) We can also try sourcing 1402:

Good idea, but you're right, it will take considerable work. The best quality article in the season is Felix as a GA, which still could use some more work done to it. The four retired hurricane articles all need a ton of work (Opal especially), and the rest of the articles would have to be made

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problem is the image doesn't have a proper source! The description is "AP Photo/US Coastguard". It is tagged as PD-USGov, but the sourcing is to a couple news sites: one of which is 404'ed. The original image should be on a US Govt site somewhere and could well be at a higher resolution/quality

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IMO, when it comes to images, the best way to approach images is to assume works are copyrighted unless proven otherwise. It's not safe to assume that it was an NWS employee who took it unless explicitly stated... in fact there have been deletions of some images on commons for that very thing -

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isn't particularly important, and it is a stub after all (not something we should be advertising in our top 10). Also, rainfall climatology, while important, could be removed from the top 10. That way, Tracy and Catarina could be added, which are two important southern hemisphere articles.

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or its basin equivalent went there, but Random26 just reminded me that it doesn't go in every article. Additionally, having list of notable tropical cyclones doesn't make much sense for storms that aren't notable. We could have List of XXX hurricanes I suppose, but what about fish storms?

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is far advanced, but there is still a little bit of work left. At the same time, there are a few articles which have been ready for quite a long time, and that essentially can occupy the slot on FAC while we're busy fixing the flagship article until it is ready and in FAC condition.

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It would be a lot easier if someone went into all the GA-class articles and decided which could be inched up to A-class. (I am biased in some of them, and also I will generally not upgrade to A-class unless it is at (or will be at) FAC or if there is supporting opinions)

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is a mistake, same logic as with the NYC 'cane above - if that occured it would be very important but how exactly would it diminish the importance of another storm? Generate a complete table, possibly adding a new column: damage as % of GDP of affected countries. We

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Hmmmm. Either could work. Is it effects, as the hurricane impacts an area in more than one way, or is it effect, describing the whole impact for the area? Similarly, is it the impact from the hurricane inside the state or the impact the hurricane does to the state?

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at the first pass (TS Allison was border H/M). I'm not sure about where to put a cut-off. Could we compile a worldwide list of storms by costs and by deaths? That would be important for the list of notable TCs anyway, but would help with judging where to make the

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Good job on the graphs of course. An interesting thing to carry out could be a categorisation of our articles, a pie chart showing storm articles, seasonal articles, and others maybe? However you would have to do your own analysis not just rely on mathbot's work

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We've been slowly trying to eliminate many of the general articles from an Atlantic-centric point of view to avoid POV tags...it's best to be proactive. If Catarina is not important enough, Tracy's devastation of Darwin around Christmas 1974 was significant.

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Extratropical cyclones are larger systems with broader wind fields, and I'm worried that calling some 970ish cyclone that affects the East as a category 2 hurricane is going to lead the unknowing to an incorrect conclusion for its maximum sustained winds.

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If we get any articles within this portion of the project to A or FA, check to see if the pages have a box mentioning/including them into the meteorology/weather events project. I did a quick search of a couple of the grades (FA and A) which only showed

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Yeah, a fairly exact amount of information should be given - so I can go and order precisely the same image if I choose to do so. The NEXRAD data gives a human-readable description of the exact data set used for the image, it should be possible for sat

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Thanks! I've been meaning to work on that article for a while, and after finals are done two weeks from now, I'll try to overhaul it as well. But thanks, though, the article really needs it. More eyes can't hurt... I will check the new additions soon.

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articles- Similar to the above, though more work is needed. 8 articles are still starts (including Rita, Stan, and Wilma, all retired), though 3 storm articles are FA's (with the main article and the list of article being featured), and 12 are

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Absolutely not. Something found on an NWS website does not mean it was taken by an employee of the government as part of their duties. NWS does often use photos from private individuals, we should never assume that NWS site = public domain. –

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does it), but not necessarily a good idea (BEATLES has indicated that it wasn't as good an idea as they had expected). Having more articles makes Mathbot slower too, as it has to read more categories, so it is something not necessarily ideal

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The retired Pacific hurricanes shouldn't be done simply because I'm not certain Fefa and Fico were retired for being damaging rather than for some other reason. 2005 AHS might be good, I suggested it ages ago. Ditto for 2003 AHS per Titoxd.

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I don't think there's a need to divide Florida even more by area. We've never really defined the purpose for a List of XXX hurricanes article, but I'm sure we can adjust the Florida and Texas articles so not too many pages are necessary.

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to FA? There has been some effort lately...it would be nice to have as many people in the project as possible to bring the centerpiece article up to FA. Personally, I'd consider it embarrassing to have the main article brought to FA

1557:, I noticed that a good chunk of the original article's impact section had been copied verbatim from news sources. This is clearly copyright violation, and we probably should check Storm05's other articles for possible copyvios. – 1276:

The most powerful tropical cyclones by area of development or impact- There's eight of them; Inigo, Ioke, Linda, Wilma, Cyclone 5B, Gafilo, Zoe, and Tip. This one might be a little difficult. None are FA's, only Linda is a GA, and

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Wow. Historical significance needs to carry some weight, if you're going to make rules regarding importance of individual tropical cyclones. Methinks we've had this debate before, and you conceded some ground on this point.

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Cool. The only problem I can forsee is the South Carolina tornado damage, which is listed as fair use. I'm not sure if that is an adequate fair use rationale, and it could still be public domain due to being from NWS website.

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I think it should be the format you prefer. For the tropical cyclone Wikiproject, most articles for unnamed storms have the format of Year Location Hurricane, unless it is known as a different name or is preceded by Great

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I've removed the line implying that they lie outside the project. I like the idea on the underlying line in the code mentioning perhaps a top 10 could be listed. If we chose to do so, how would we determine a top 10?

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in choice of colours anyway. I favour using two non-eyecatching shades of the same colour (blue?), navigation templates are for ease of use; they shouldn't draw your attention away from the text (like the Caribbean one

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I'd say 2003AHS is the easiest to work on, and should perhaps be the trial nomination. After all, improving the hurricane season itself isn't that difficult when the storm articles are already developed considerably.

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you need to include go right over our heads. So I think it would be better if your own members review the articles. They would know what to look for and might actually enjoy learning something about "Tropical Storm

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a little while back: "What is with Knowledge (XXG) and hurricane articles?". As for FA they've noticed the problem that GA had a while back, lets get GA to split us into our own cat first. No wait, we don't want

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Its probably possible, but AVHRR images are from a fundamentally different source from the Blue Marble (MODIS). Tito, talk to the good people on the Worldwind forums - I bet they good be intergrated on that

3397:. Obviously this is no good for giving the 2006 damage figure of Katrina without rounding. I'm trying to find if there is code somewhere to round to ~2 sig figs. 2 sig figs for inflated figures seem good?-- 3903:

It's impossible to do that because the data is stored in a temporary directory available only to my account. You really just have to know what you are looking for, but once you know, it's easy to find it.

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I got bored after Juan, and since I had 15, I thought that would suffice for now. That said, some of these article need a bit more. For example, Alberto can use some info from the MWR reports; Emily needs

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Bringing this back up - there are only 3 A-class storm articles, and 66 storm articles at GA. We should go through all 66 to see what should go to Peer Review or FAC, since some likely can at this point.

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articles- I'm not sure whether it would qualify as a featured topic, but this would be extremely easy. All articles except for Isabel and Juan are GA's or above (including 3 FA's), and the season is a GA.

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We're clogging up GA; they can't keep up with the pace we send through there. Perhaps we should start assessing some of those articles ourselves? Should we skip GA in some cases and send straight to FAC?

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Hmm, tough call. On one hand, they are probably our 12 most important articles. On the other hand, 12 seems like a lot for the absolute most important articles. What is the precedent for other projects?

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convert it to USD. The USD was worth about $ 3.50 MXN in 1994; it was worth almost $ 10.00 by 1996, if my memory doesn't fail me. If you convert the 1994 value directly, you then use the United States'

3075: 3886:. Please provide direct links to the actual images on CLASS (or sufficient detail in description that anyone can use the search to find it), linking solely to the CLASS homepage isn't best practice.-- 3731:.. one is "effect" while the other is "effects" & also "in" versus "on". My mind is small and a hobgoblin is doing a tapdance on it. Maybe y'all should have consistent naming conventions... :-) 2319:

Having a second southern hemisphere storm would offset two Atlantic cases. I'm ok with it. When Good Kitty mentions Tracy has fallen from grace, I assume they mean the article, not the storm?

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Tito, you could use the tables recorded in the newsletters to get some graeter detail for the storm articles without a hefty expenditure of effort. Obviously much of anything would be a PITA.--

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This is something I just noticed. Why is it stated on the main page of this project that the tropical cyclone, Saffir-Simpson scale, and storm surge are not within the scope of this project?

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are FA's (Gloria, Iniki, Mitch, Floyd, Allison, Dennis, and Katrina), Eight are GA's or A's (Audrey, Camille, David, Andrew, Georges, Leslie (00), Charley, and Ivan), and there are no stubs

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could work as the next one, seeing as we have yet to have a non-storm or season FA (IIRC). No retired storms are ready, despite several being GA or A class. What does everyone want to do?

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I was going to clog up the Peer Review, but I am still considering. I really don't want to unilaterally promote anything to A-class unless it is an FAC or there is a previous consensus.

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supposed to be at least a rough sketch of our FAC queue. Since 1995PHS is done on FAC, which ones are viable to be put on FAC next? Any viable candidates should be raised from GA to A.

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I've been fairly absent from the tropical cyclone project as of late due to filling out some related meteorology stubs and getting them up to at least B class. Also, the work on the

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would be top class, that is how these matters tie together. That article should be dominated by damaging storms, but would also have all the basin record holders and Catarina...--

3495:). If you look at my sandbox, whilst I cannot tell it to give to 3 sf I can tell it to give it to 1 dp, if that works use it; if not move on. The table which it calls is in 4134:

LOL, that will be good, but what about ones that affected land but are not notable? Especially ones that don't yet have an article for List of XXX hurricanes, like Mexico.

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The other thing that is missing is the source instrument. From your descriptions I can find the original now, but only because I recognise AVHRR imagery when I see it ;)--

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The imagery is fine in terms of copyright, so there is no problem with keeping it (even if its not used in the article). However, the sourcing you have provided there is

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I'd think Catarina (2004) would trump 2005 Hurricane Season. It would avoid POV, and we'd have a southern hemisphere candidate. Tracy of 1974 is another alternative.

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as the strongest storm was not the most intense storm, I haven't touched that part. What should we do for that? List only the strongest storm or something else?--

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Would those working on hurricanes (or weather phenomenon in general) have any advice for naming conventions for earthquakes? I've attempted to find guidance at

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Hi, I figured this new toy out, and I am, well, excited to say the least. I uploaded an AWESOME picture of Hurricane Bob (1991), showing most of the coastline.

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South Florida, Southwest Florida and Florida Keys; Texas could go to East Texas, Central Texas, North Texas, South Texas and West Texas (incl. Pacific storms).

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formatting; John needs double-checking with the TCR. I only looked at each article quickly, so feel free to tell me to get knotted or to add more suggestions.

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but we need data (the problem Tito refers to above). As for inflation I've worked out a way to do this simply. WP can easily round to any power of 10; if the

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Hurricane. For earthquakes, which don't have names and to my knowledge aren't usually classified by a particular name, I think it should follow that format.

1193: 1177: 1111: 1097:. It doesn't require any credentials to review articles for GA as long as you are careful to follow the instructions written on that page, and to follow the 4253:. My instinct is that the former is more usual, as the year is what people are often referring to, just as much as the location. What do people here think? 1210: 358:? I just finished that, and now it's extremely comprehensive and long. Could you give it a look over (needs a copyedit I'll bet, which you are great at). 3725: 3355:

I'm tempted to form the data from a source like this into a template, so it can be used automatically by infoboxes. However, that is clearly tricky...--

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Maybe people should suggest the 10 most important ones which we will choose from. In addition to the three there, I nominate (in no particular order)

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of the Peso in the two following years, giving an incorrect result. There must be a table somewhere that does that... and yeah, I'd rather trust the

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wrong (without the NOAA basins included yet), Cyclone 05B should not be a mere mid for example. I'd think the question we should ask is what kind of

1497:, the MediaWiki devs have developed a new feature that allows us to create "sortable" tables. An example use for this new capability is shown in the 1256:- Out of the 7 retired Pacific hurricanes, one is an FA (Iniki), one is a GAN (Ismael), and the rest shouldn't be too hard, excluding Fefa and Fico. 3913:

If there's a URL where the data can be ordered, I'd link that URL and specify what exactly the order was. That's what is done for NEXRAD I think. –

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I remember some other authors had this problem in the past, as well. Curious, do you have a copy of the text and where it was taken verbatim from?

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Well, it seems that the only issue is to define what makes a list and what makes an article... as well at the ACE table, which I imagine must be

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That's funny :) Well, they wanna split us with meteorology, so we're gonna have to overload them even more if we want to be our own category :D

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IMO, non-US calculations should be converted to US dollars and shown in both figures. Also we need somewhere able to calculated in 2007 USD.

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Originally, they weren't, as the scope was restricted to storm articles. Gradually, the scope has expanded, so that probably is out of date.

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Anyone want to try to get a Featured topic out of the WPTC? We have some options, all of which will take some time. Here's some ideas I had.

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I'd help, but seeing as half of them were nominated by me I might be a little biased. That said, I did review one or two I did nothing for.

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for U.S. inflation. Does that work? If not, what would be better that goes to the present year? What should be done with the non-US, also?

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has been getting a heavy backlog, and we could use some help slimming it now. Of particular problem is your guys' section. I just passed

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I can probably do a pie graph for seasons, storms, tropical cyclone meteorology, meteorologists, and other articles, but it would be a

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do we want T/H/M/L storms to be? Obviously the Atl fishies are low, Bhola and Katrina are Top but what about the more difficult ones?--

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Ideally, in the assessment page, but now that we're here, perhaps Bonnie should be next, after Fabian/Gustav/Katrina history are done.

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image of flooded NOLA isn't the only one (and IIRC isn't the most famous one), so the historical value isn't really there IMO. A more

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Would this pic have any chance being a Featured Pic. I think it may need a little brightening, but other than that, is amazing.

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Hmm. Excellent pics! Is there a way to combine them with the Blue Marble maps, where land features are slightly more visible?

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Same here. I've done a lot of work to about half of them. That said, I'll update the assessment page with the remaining GA's.

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stuff? I mentioned two things on the talk page over there a while ago (October 2006) and got no response. Have a look at the

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more powerful. See the usage instructions on the Templates page for details. It now works for all individual basin seasons.--

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Hideous rule-cruft guys, I'm sorry I missed this debate. With non-storm articles, any core topic concept is plausible and

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That is cool! I like that. I can't think of a lot of articles that could benifit from it, but it's still a cool feature.

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is not used around the entire world. The other ones seem acceptable to me, and would be the ones I'd think about first.

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Ok, so what would be the Top-Class damage cutoff? $ 5 billion USD, with normalized inflation and currency conversions?

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Which is why I said it could. We don't know who took the picture. It could have been a NWS employee, for all we know.

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into separate projects, a la WPTC, so it's not necessarily the same situation either. Do we want to split off into

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Could someone else nominate it? I'm pretty busy lately, and I'm not sure if I could adequately handle the FAC nom.

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Awesome work, and I think it should be implemented. The only problem is that 2007 is just days away... oh well.

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Okay I figured out that you can search for specific datasets. In addition to Andrew, I've made new pics of

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We should reach the 800-article mark before the end of the year, if the rate of article creation keeps up.

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Really? No wonder there was so much controversy at its FAC. Let's see how long that lasts until Nilfanion

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Wait why can't we make the strongest storm of each basin a TOP or HIGH importance, damage, deaths or not?

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Its not like everyone knows about the subject of the article. Passing TD9 (2003) was my first GA passing.

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Most of our A-Class articles don't last long there; they're pushed up to FA status. That's usually good.

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Sure. We're just going to need two lists soon: an FA queue, and a list of articles I have to look at...

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to analyze the importance of our storms against the most important criteria. A few storms stand out as

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to do with respect to time. Remind me about that Tuesday, since that's the earliest I can work on it.

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has fallen from grace. Its also good to have one of those weird midget cyclones they have down there.

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Hmm, tough call. Catarina was meteorologically interesting and fairly important, but so was 2005 AHS.

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It doesn't matter how many, IMO. As long as it is clearly evident that they're important, it's good.

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What should go in the see also section, other than the portal link? I was under the impression that

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I concur, and that makes us three, meeting the rule of thumb we used to use... go ahead and nom it.

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comes close with 104, though, and by the end of the expansion/cleanup, it will probably have more.

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2003-05 AHS's are the obvious choices at this stage. Season's are the obvious topic choice, though

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Goes all the way to 2051!! And, it goes as far back as 1666! Any old hurricane can have a change.

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their unusual formation (eg. Vamei, Vince, Agni) and nothing else isn't what I call important.

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Well, ideally, we could also have links to tropical cyclones that affected the area, and that

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Tropical Cyclones data observed by TRMM/PR,TMI,VIRS, Aqua/AMSR-E and Midori-II (ADEOS-II)/AMSR

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Ooh, flooding by tropical cyclone articles. Ironic :) That's a good idea. I'll start with the

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userspace, and is based on the Fed Reserve data linked above. If we are going to use this we

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Another I thought of, although it will take considerable work and several more articles, is

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You mean having an assessment table for the storms, a separate table for the seasons, etc?

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important yes. But more significant than killing 100,000 people (1991 Bangladesh)? Are you

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Looks a tiny little bit grainy, but otherwise it shows New Orleans flooded very clearly...

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Any thoughts? Anyone interested in trying for one of those or a different featured topic?

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Not a hope if you ask me. The quality is bad enough that it needs the historical offset:

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Katrina has 113, that's probably the most or at least among the highest in our project.

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OK. Thanks. In case anyone is interested, I requested a move and started discussion at

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I should have known this would happen. Thankfully the IB has fallthrough. I've altered

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tells it how far to round to (guideline being 2/3 sig figs) that would do it. Check my

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After a long slog I finally managed to get the code working (see the edit history of

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I think the project needs one set source for inflation calculations. I propose using

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making no distinction between current and past; and also making the small templates

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A whole lot of projects assign importance ratings based solely on the project (e.g.

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should move it to main Template: space. Question is do we want to do this or not?--

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Wow, impressive! Do you think it would be possible to expand it for other nations?

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Last paragraph. The moment you see "Saturday" in the text alarm bells should ring.

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storms all the time, but unfortunately we don't have any bigger storms ready yet.

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has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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of Cuba hurricanes. Europe would be fine just being List of Europe hurricanes.

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Ten is a nice neat number, though I suppose we don't have to limit ourselves.

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Agree. Let's wait until 1933AHS passes and then let's send the other ones in.

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There's been a sharp increase in our rate of FACs after October of this year.

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being a very memorable year (although overshadowed by the insanity of 2005).

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But that is a different story... which other articles are ready to go to the

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Yea, agreed the 12 can be pushed up to top, as they are our core articles.

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Why ten, for that matter? I think 2005AHS qualifies, (over $ 200 billion

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Just to let you know, Florida has already been split up by time period.

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private images used by the NOAA that Storm05 uploaded under PD-NOAA. –

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Earth Observation Research Center, Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency

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Meteorology's intentions are to allow the sub-projects to split away

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would be added for those that apply, but this is already the case.

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qualifies it, IMO) and rainfall climatology is important as well.

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Ooo, I can think of some ways to use it. Explanations can wait.--(

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articles. Once I finish Isabel and Juan for 2003 AHS, I'll FT it.

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That could work. I know this is far in the future, but what about

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Prepare yourself for the awesomeness before you click this link.

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Tito, go away. Me still not with it yet- weekend with any luck

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A question about "articles not under the scope of this project"

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Having an assessment table for part of the project is doable (

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Oh the irony in that Tito... That was the cut-off I chose for

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There are quite a few articles related to this project at the

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Hmm, ok, that makes perfect sense. Nevermind about it, then.

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OK, I've updated the graphs that I had originally posted on

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an actual FA queue, primarily for the lesser impact storms?

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I agree with Bhola. There needs to be a S. Hemisphere one.

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I did a look though wikipedia and found articles with many

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because that usually means it's really not good enough). –

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Quality is balanced by the "historical importance" part of

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and the area of greatest impact's hurricane list article?

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I added all of them for the North Atlantic and Pacific at

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Agree with Tito here. To say the top X storms are top for

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Just wondering, what article has the most sources so far?

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and delisted. GA is a casual procedure and no big deal. --

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You first need to deflate or inflate the local currency,

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Yeah... consistency would be good. All of those are too

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since? Said in the nicest possible way, of course. :-)

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the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page

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or the corresponding basin article isn't a bad idea.

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This can be done by the use of nested #if's; but is

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A plea concerning the extratropical cyclone articles

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How about some more effort to bring, um, 2892:template splits the tornadoes from the floods. 2908:Well, there's some issues to consider there: 1089:Why don't you guys help out with GA nominees? 941:Effects of Hurricane Isabel in North Carolina 8: 2387:, but it probably isn't going to be Top for 1165:ultimately FA - without even going GA (see 3726:Effect of Hurricane Katrina on New Orleans 3242:Standardization for inflation calculations 3045:needs a week to be completely ready, IMO. 1791:Data source on TC satellite and other info 3721:Effects of Hurricane Isabel in New Jersey 3334:'s site than some random site out there. 3136:Effects of Hurricane Isabel in New Jersey 2940:We can probably try something similar to 2882:template into seasons and storm like the 2841:too difficult. Is such an idea feasible? 1854:We apparently do have the shortest FA in 1262:article would have to be created, as well 4201:, the latter of which would change when 3126: 2933:WikiProject Tropical cyclone meteorology 2925:WikiProject Individual tropical cyclones 1753:Knowledge (XXG):Good articles/Candidates 1718:, I don't think many have realized that 1260:List of retired Pacific hurricane names 1095:Knowledge (XXG):Good article candidates 851:List of retired Pacific hurricane names 4211:List of Category 5 Atlantic hurricanes 4185:So, would anyone be opposed to having 3649:Why are all of them different colors? 2987:either go right to FAC or down to GA. 1850:Just in case we didn't know already... 922:Ok, what's next? We need more time... 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 2277:Tropical cyclone rainfall climatology 2024:Tropical cyclone rainfall climatology 1073:(which could make the FPC viable).--( 157:, which I recently finished redoing. 7: 3394: 2929:WikiProject Tropical cyclone seasons 1710:While everyone is drooling over the 693:Sounds good. Any other suggestions? 4328:Tis being dealth with now! Thanks. 4207:List of retired Atlantic hurricanes 4195:List of notable Atlantic hurricanes 4153:List of notable Atlantic hurricanes 4065:TfD nomination of Template:Tcseason 1432:. That's... always good, isn't it? 1267:List of retired Atlantic hurricanes 2593:say any TC worthy of inclusion in 2328:Yea. Alright, I'll put the 12 in. 1652:based on their central pressure. 990:Image:KatrinaNewOrleansFlooded.jpg 24: 4203:List of North Carolina hurricanes 4187:List of notable tropical cyclones 4097:List of notable tropical cyclones 3709:consistency in naming conventions 3493:Template:Infobox hurricane season 2795:graph, since it would be a royal 2729:. A few observations from there: 2595:list of notable tropical cyclones 2391:), so we're safe there, I think. 733:Although that is indeed correct. 659:Ok, Bonnie is FA'd. What's next? 249:? That should be a FA. Same with 2344:So, do I push all of those to {{ 1617:Damn, I'm surprised about that. 320:I think the next closest one is 29: 1849: 1748:Need help reviewing cyclone GAs 1050:, so it could have a chance... 4249:, which recently got moved to 3866:2006 Atlantic hurricane season 3833:1933 Atlantic hurricane season 3545:User:CrazyC83/TemplateRegional 2942:Military history's task forces 2285:2005 Atlantic hurricane season 2016:2005 Atlantic hurricane season 1390:1995 Atlantic hurricane season 1291:2005 Atlantic hurricane season 1285:2003 Atlantic hurricane season 336:19:13, 25 September 2006 (UTC) 316:02:27, 25 September 2006 (UTC) 302:21:00, 24 September 2006 (UTC) 273:20:14, 24 September 2006 (UTC) 234:23:02, 23 September 2006 (UTC) 215:22:58, 23 September 2006 (UTC) 195:22:56, 23 September 2006 (UTC) 173:04:42, 23 September 2006 (UTC) 155:1933 Atlantic hurricane season 148:01:41, 23 September 2006 (UTC) 1: 4333:04:45, 31 December 2006 (UTC) 4323:03:31, 28 December 2006 (UTC) 4297:01:02, 28 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I put Henri up for FAC. 548:Copy that, working on it. 435:Tropical Storm Bill (2003) 356:Tropical Storm Bill (2003) 2707:Assessment graphs updated 1281:would have to be created. 454:FA'd. Which one is next? 203:Tropical Storm Lee (2005) 4193:, for example, would be 3864:I mentioned this in the 3805:Infobox hurricane season 3391:User:Nilfanion/Inflation 3170:Hurricane Edouard (1996) 3153:Hurricane Allison (1995) 3141:Hurricane Alberto (2000) 1879:wants to go for the gold 1716:Today's Featured article 280:Hurricane Edouard (1996) 4305:Hurricane Katrina stuff 3689:Template:Navigation bar 3539:Regional list templates 2658:I've been developing a 2421:Ok, I'll push them up. 2261:Tropical cyclone scales 2052:Tropical cyclone scales 2020:1991 Bangladesh cyclone 1929:Yeah, that's the most. 1728:WikiProject Meteorology 1647:article and our recent 1555:Typhoon Shanshan (2006) 1489:Interesting new feature 1466:Did you see the one on 3192:Hurricane Erika (1997) 3175:Hurricane Emily (2005) 3165:Hurricane Danny (2003) 3022:I can't think of any. 2722: 2715: 2549:I'm getting it started 1833: 1667:Reorganization of the 1171:Hurricane Edith (1971) 1099:Good article criterias 945:Hurricane Danny (2003) 727:preaching to the choir 4290:Talk:Basel earthquake 4247:1356 Basel earthquake 3835:to use the new code. 3763:Infobox consolidation 3204:Hurricane John (2006) 3187:Hurricane Erin (2001) 3182:Hurricane Emmy (1976) 3148:Hurricane Alex (2004) 2721: 2714: 2660:table in my userspace 2265:Tropical cyclogenesis 2032:Tropical cyclogenesis 1823: 1803:comment was added by 1720:Extratropical cyclone 1704:Extratropical cyclone 1654:Please don't do this. 1645:extratropical cyclone 1204:Beginning cross-post. 42:of past discussions. 3869:East Coast pictured 3326:, which ignores the 3158:Hurricane Bob (1985) 1549:Copyvios in articles 1425:Well... apparently, 951:. 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