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was descended from a Gorilla or not, the Bp. chafed him and asked whether he had a preference for the descent being on the father's side or the mother's side? This gave Huxley the opportunity of saying that he would sooner claim kindred with an Ape than with a man like the Bp. who made so ill a use of his wonderful speaking powers to try and burke, by a display of authority, a free discussion on what was, or was not, a matter of truth, and reminded him that on questions of physical science 'authority' had always been bowled out by investigation, as witness astronomy and geology. A lot of people afterwards spoke ... the feeling of the meeting was very much against the Bp.
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development, as laid down by Darwin, any one can be so enamoured of this so-called law, or hypothesis, as to go into jubilation for his great great grandfather having been an ape or a gorilla?", whereas another suggests he may have said that "it was of little consequence to himself whether or not his grandfather might be called a monkey or not."
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the more we thus exercise, and by exercising improve our intellectual faculties, the more worthy shall we be, the better shall we be fitted to come nearer to our God." Therefore, a case could be made for saying that for the many clerics in the audience, the underlying conflict was between traditional
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Notably, all three major participants felt they had had the best of the debate. Wilberforce wrote that, "On Saturday Professor Henslow ... called on me by name to address the Section on Darwin's theory. So I could not escape and had quite a long fight with Huxley. I think I thoroughly beat him."
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twenty-five years earlier. FitzRoy denounced Darwin's book and, "lifting an immense Bible first with both hands and afterwards with one hand over his head, solemnly implored the audience to believe God rather than man". He was believed to have said: "I believe that this is the Truth, and had I known
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According to Lucas, "Wilberforce, contrary to the central tenet of the legend, did not prejudge the issue", but Lucas is in a minority on this, as Jensen makes clear. Wilberforce criticised Darwin's theory on ostensibly scientific grounds, arguing that it was not supported by the facts, and he noted
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In the Nat. Hist. Section we had another hot Darwinian debate ... After Huxley was called upon by Henslow to state his views at greater length, and this brought up the Bp. of Oxford ... Referring to what Huxley had said two days before, about after all its not signifying to him whether he
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read a paper "On the final causes of the sexuality in plants, with particular reference to Mr. Darwin's work..." Owen and Huxley were both in attendance, and a debate erupted over Darwin's theory. Owen spoke of facts which would enable the public to "come to some conclusions ... of the truth of Mr.
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the truth. However, what Huxley and Wilberforce actually said is uncertain, and subsequent accounts were subject to distortion since no verbatim account of the debate exists. One eyewitness suggests that Wilberforce's question to Huxley may have been "whether, in the vast shaky state of the law of
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at the time had a number of clergymen occupying high positions (including Presidents of two of its seven sections). In his speech to open the annual event, the President of the Association (Lord Wrottesley) concluded his talk by saying "Let us ever apply ourselves to the task, feeling assured that
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The last speaker of the day was Hooker. According to his own account, it was he and not Huxley who delivered the most effective reply to Wilberforce's arguments: "Sam was shut up—had not one word to say in reply, and the meeting was dissolved forthwith". Ruse claims that "everybody enjoyed himself
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The debate is best remembered today for a heated exchange in which Wilberforce supposedly asked Huxley whether it was through his grandfather or his grandmother that he claimed his descent from a monkey. Huxley is said to have replied that he would not be ashamed to have a monkey for his ancestor,
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Well, Sam Oxon got up and spouted for half an hour with inimitable spirit, ugliness and emptiness and unfairness ... Huxley answered admirably and turned the tables, but he could not throw his voice over so large an assembly nor command the audience ... he did not allude to Sam's weak
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Wilberforce agreed to address the meeting on Saturday morning, and there was expectation that he would repeat his success at scourging evolutionary ideas as at the 1847 meeting. Huxley was initially reluctant to engage Wilberforce in a public debate about evolution, but, in a chance encounter,
449:. "Oh no, I would swear he has never read a word of it", Fawcett reportedly replied loudly. Wilberforce swung round to him scowling, ready to recriminate, but stepped back and bit his tongue on noting that the protagonist was the blind economist. 354:, Darwin's former mentor from Cambridge. It has been suggested that Owen arranged for Henslow to chair the discussion "hoping to make the expected defeat of Darwin the more complete". The main focus of the meeting was supposed to be a lecture by 346:
that the Bishop's manner was "unctuous, oleaginous, saponaceous"). According to Bryson, "more than a thousand people crowded into the chamber; hundreds more were turned away." Darwin himself was too sick to attend.
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Frank A. J. L. James (2005). "An 'open clash between science and the church'? Wilberforce, Huxley and Hooker on Darwin at the British Association, Oxford, 1960". In David M. Knight & Matthew D. Eddy (ed.).
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Huxley claimed " the most popular man in Oxford for a full four & twenty hours afterwards." Hooker wrote that "I have been congratulated and thanked by the blackest coats and whitest stocks in Oxford."
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Oxford Chronicle, 7 July 1860. See also the recent essay by James C. Ungureanu, "A Yankee at Oxford: John William Draper at the British Association for the Advancement of Science at Oxford, 30 June 1860,"
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would speak against Darwin's theory at the meeting on Saturday 30 June 1860. Wilberforce was one of the greatest public speakers of his day but was known as "Soapy Sam" (from a comment by
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had already praised evolutionary ideas, and in his essay he commended "Mr. Darwin's masterly volume" for substantiating "the grand principle of the self-evolving powers of nature".
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Thomas Huxley, one of the small group with whom Darwin had shared his theory before publication, emerged as the main public champion of evolution. He wrote a favourable review of "
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was seen as contrary to religious orthodoxy and a threat to the social order and thus was very controversial in the first half of the nineteenth century, although
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The reaction of many orthodox churchmen was hostile, but their attention was diverted in February 1860 by a much greater furore over the publication of
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persuaded him not to desert the cause. The Reverend Baden Powell would have been on the platform, too, but he had died of a heart attack on 11 June.
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used his Sunday sermon at St. Mary's Church on "the wrong way of doing science" to deliver a stinging attack obviously aimed at its author,
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Life of Alfred Newton: late Professor of Comparative Anatomy, Cambridge University 1866–1907, with a Preface by Sir Archibald Geikie OM
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Reliable accounts indicate that although Huxley did respond with the "monkey" retort, the remainder of his speech was unremarkable.
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Gross, Charles G. (1993). "Hippocampus minor and man's place in nature: a case study in the social construction of neuroanatomy".
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A stone pillar erected in 2010 outside the Oxford University Museum of Natural History to mark the 150th anniversary of the event
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It is said that during the debate, two Cambridge dons happened to be standing near Wilberforce, one of whom was
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The debate began a bitter three-year dispute between Owen and Huxley over human origins, satirised by
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had ever been asked to square off against science in a public forum in the whole of its history".
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hierarchy welcomed it. The scientific community was wary in the absence of a proposed mechanism.
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was published on 24 November 1859 to wide debate and controversy. Influential biologist
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Though the debate is frequently depicted as a clash between religion and science, the
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in December 1859, along with several other articles and delivered a lecture at the
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and coached Wilberforce, who also wrote an anonymous 17,000-word review in the
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but he would be ashamed to be connected with a man who used his great gifts to
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Can a Darwinian be a Christian? The Relationship between Science and Religion
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immensely and all went cheerfully off to dinner together afterwards".
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points nor put the matter in a form or way that carried the audience.
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The scientific memoirs of Thomas Henry Huxley. 4 vols and supplement
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that the greatest names in science were opposed to the theory.
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The debate has been called "one of the great stories of the
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anatomical argument which he had first presented in 1857
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wrote an anonymous negative review of the book in the
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Index


Oxford University Museum of Natural History
Oxford University Museum
Oxford
England
Charles Darwin
On the Origin of Species
Thomas Henry Huxley
Samuel Wilberforce
Benjamin Brodie
Joseph Dalton Hooker
Robert FitzRoy
John William Draper
New York University
British Association
obscure

Charles Darwin
Reaction to Darwin's theory
transmutation of species
Radicals
aristocratic
Vestiges of the Natural History of Creation
British Association for the Advancement of Science
Oxford
Bishop of Oxford
Samuel Wilberforce
Robert Chambers
archaeologists
geoscientists

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