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71: 53: 22: 81: 384:. It gets more and more complicated: "For Safavid Iran was divided into about fifty to seventy jurisdictions, which were governed by a varying number of vālis (vice-roys), begler-begis (governor-generals), hākems (senior-governors), soltāns or qol-begis (junior-governors), dārughas (superintendents) and royal viziers (administrators)." - page 218, 244:
for the governors of numerous provinces, including those of Azerbaijan, Qarabāḡ, Šīrvān, Fārs, ʿErāq-e ʿArab, and Astarābād. At the same time, however, a few provinces—those, it seems, regarded as strategically more important—were administered by a wālī, and by the end of the Safavid period this term had superseded beglerbegī also.
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to find some more info. Though unfortunately the source doesn't really have noteworthy info about it, the author instead suggests reading his other book for stuff like that, which I don't possess: "For a detailed discussion of this administrative organization and changes therein over times as well as
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BEGLERBEGĪ (Pers. also -beygī), a Turkish title meaning “beg of begs,” “commander of commanders.” In the Il-khanid period it is sometimes employed in chronicles to designate the leading amir in the state, e.g., of Taḡačar (Ṭaḡājār) in 694/1295; and according to the Mamluk geographer ʿOmarī, this was
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briefly makes mention of it, though it's not really much; "The cities, where gold coins were minted, were concentrated primarily in the khāssa domain – Hamadan, Isfahan, Kashan, Mazandaran, Qazvin, Shiraz, Yazd53 and in the neighboring beglerbekates of Mashhad (Mashhad, Sabzavar), Khorasan (Herat)
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Under the Safavids the title came to be applied to governors of the more important provinces. At first governors of all ranks were called merely ḥākem, but beglerbegī appears in an edict of Ṭahmāsb I in 950/1543-44 referring to the governor of Herat. During the succeeding decades the title is used
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were all used, and I don't think we have enough info warranting that they have their own stand-alone articles. EDIT: The Iranica source you mentioned (and which my comment was also directed at) was great, I don't get why you removed it.
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The title beglarbegi means "Governor General", a term derived from Turkish beylerbeyi, means chief of the chief. In Iran, the Beglarbegi governed three sub-ordinate governors of a province, including deputy governor and lesser
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That would certainly be a useful source, with a significant number of details relevant to this topic. If you do manage to find a copy of the book, please send some relevant excerpts here.
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the regular usage. In this case the term would have been synonymous with ulusbegī “amir of the ulus (state),” and equivalent to the Arabic-Persian amīr al-omarāʾ.
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I agree that this article should be either renamed or reduced to a part of another article, and should certainly not use the Ottoman Turkish form of the name.
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The Safavid administration was organised into thirteen provinces or baylarbayliks (beglarbegliks) governed by baylarbayis (beglarbegis).
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Hi Samiollah1357. Yavuz and Gunter are political scientists. They don't have any expertise in this area either, so they're not really
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is not an appropriate translation or transliteration of this term, as it is the Ottoman Turkish pronunciation of
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It appears to be currently unavailable, but I'll check back later and see if I can find anything useful.
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and Azerbaijan (Ardabil, Tabriz)." - page 291. I have tried in the past to find more info about these
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Titles and Emoluments in Safavid Iran: A Third Manual of Safavid Administration, by Mirza Naqi Nasiri
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The removal was a mistake made while I was trying to add a second quote.
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and a vizier in governing a jurisdiction." - page 124. --
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