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collective theme in this version of the national narrativeâone that PiS attempts to exploitâis again of a morally clean nation that witnessed horror but was not an active collaborator in it. There persists a large rump in Polish society, and a series of raw cleavages, both defined by attachmentâamong other thingsâto the historical narrative of cleanliness. It is precisely along these cleavages and to (and for) this rump that PiS seeks to function, obliging waverers to choose between a patriotic party (PiS) and, by implication, a nonpatriotic one (PO).
3873:, created some articles and add plenty of kBytes of stuff from time to time. I spotted this Ĺťaryn dispute some weeks ago and now that one of your opponents (but not like all of them who you were subjecting to your outbursts) got banned for one reason or another one would have hoped that folks could move forward and you'd be more co-operative. As you weren't, well, I finally left a comment there. Take it or leave it. I'd just advise you to be more co-operative in the future and stop various insinuations against your perceived opponents.
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version of the national narrativeâone that PiS attempts to exploitâis again of a morally clean nation that witnessed horror but was not an active collaborator in it. There persists a large rump in Polish society, and a series of raw cleavages, both defined by attachment... to the historical narrative of cleanliness. It is precisely along these cleavages and to (and for) this rump that PiS seeks to function, obliging waverers to choose between a patriotic party (
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against the Polish nation,â and is understood as the âcentral attackâ on
Polishness, Polish values and traditions, and Polish identity (understood in an ethnic sense)... According to PiSâs historical policy, two major historical narratives defined as âtrue and patrioticâ are utilized to oppose Gross and Anna Bikontâs accounts of the Jedwabne pogrom and its long aftermath, as well as other dark aspects of PolishâJewish relations during and after the Holocaust.
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deconstruct our identity. The attack on tradition and the associated national consciousness is ostentatious in the cultural sphere. The preference for creativity that is detrimental to Polish values is clear. Leftist periodicals are supported; various types of state-funded cultural transmission attack patriotism and national values.
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narodowym; dbaĹoĹÄ o instytucjonalizacjÄ pamiÄci; ochronÄ zabytkĂłw i polskie dziedzictwo zagranicÄ
oraz dziedzictwo utracone; wĹaĹciwe upamiÄtnianie waĹźnych dla Polski rocznic i postaci; aktywnÄ
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w zakresie toĹźsamoĹci kulturowo-historycznej.
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Right. Youâre excessively familiar with my editing. You just happen to show up when another brand new... sorry, created in âFebruaryâ, account just got banned. You follow me to a whole bunch of articles. You follow another editor in this topic area and show up to their talk page. You know the ins and
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No, it doesn't "figure", and your summary isn't "adequate". If you're going to PA people at least do them a courtesy of following the discussion, and maybe - just maybe - checking the page history before making such bad-faithed allegations. Now, do you have anything to say on-topic, ie. on putting Jo
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There is plenty of research in Poland of what you call "disgrace", especially which is related to
Communist era. The narrative of this article is based on ample overgeneralizations. Yes, there are several topics which are being shut, but there are plenty of villains in Polsih history nobody attempts
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The lack of any coherent âtextbookâ policy prevents the formation of a common consciousness of students and, at the same time, leads to the transmission of scandalous content, for example, communist crimes and the scale of German crimes in World War II are relativized. These measures use education to
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Source: "According to the politicians, historians, and journalists representing PiSâs ideological position, Jedwabne and other events that cast a negative light on Polish national identity must be revisited and retold for both Poles and the West. In their eyes, Jedwabne is a key sign of âall the lies
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There isn't much to understand. A now banned sock puppet of a globally banned user jumped in to revert me and started this section with personal attacks on me. Then
Francois Robere jumped in to defend the sock. Then when the sock got banned another new account showed up immediately after, as well as
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I donât recall addressing you, nor do I see that youâve ever edited this article before. You seem to have followed me here for some reason. And you also seem to know a whole lot about esoteric
Knowledge (XXG) disputes (like account of common names for sock masters in this topic area) for a brand new
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I didnât make any PAs and please keep in mind that falsely accusing other editors of making personal attacks is itself a personal attack. As to Jo, Iâve stated my reason - the material is outdated and is not actually about the topic of the article. Itâs not about any âpolicyâ. Proposing to put it in
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The PiS agenda has been clear: Poland will stand up for itself, will look at and raise arguments about things that affected Poles, but will defend against any criticism of Poles in relation to (Polish) Jews, Ukrainians, and other minorities in interwar Poland both during and after the war. A central
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Jo Harper wrote that "the PiS agenda has been clear: Poland will stand up for itself, will look at and raise arguments about things that affected Poles, but will defend against any criticism of Poles in relation to (Polish) Jews, Ukrainians, and other minorities... A central collective theme in this
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The neutrality concerns were all about one sentence, which I supported with a quote on talk page. I am always ready to consider if another wording may be best, but it is not appropriate to tag an entire article for neutrality based on one sentence. Also, Piotrus used failed verification tags without
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To be entirely honest, I am struggling to discern the actual substance of this dispute and I am willing to have an open mind as to who, if anyone, is in the right on the substantial issue. This thread is virtually impossible for uninvolved editors to understand, and therefore to help resolve. I am,
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According to the politicians, historians, and journalists representing PiSâs ideological position, Jedwabne and other events that cast a negative light on Polish national identity must be revisited and retold for both Poles and the West. In their eyes, Jedwabne is a key sign of âall the lies voiced
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Epithets which divided Poles in two groups and indicated on bad intentions of political opponents became a part of newspeak of Polish rightist spectrum. Here it is possible to identify a division into âreal Polesâ with reference to followers of ârightâand âfalseâ Poles with reference to the rest as
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Since 2015, the right-wing Polish government has attempted to closely control those institutions that are regarded as crucial for shaping the national remembrance in order to implement a mnemonic policy with the aim of promoting patriotism and defending a positive image of the ethno-linguistically
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You mean the indef banned editor that was trying to Joe-job me? Like I said, this is way outdated and is not even about any âpolicyâ. WP:ONUS is on those who wish to include and currently thereâs no such consensus. And
Coffman, youâve never edited this article, youâve never bothered to comment on
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Neutralityu tag stays because the lede contains directly false statement, namely about "Communist times". This blatantly contradicts the widely publicized decommunization policy in Poland. What is more important, it does not describe the "histgorical policy" from the point of view of supporters,
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My review: date, size, refs, are good. Notability and neutrality - likely ok, but this is a touchy topic and I am not sure if the ALT1 about
Jedwabne is neutral. Anyway, a techical issue - this needs to have lead cut to size (I don't suggest removing content, just moving it to the article's main
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I havenât responded because I donât see a point in responding to comments by
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Prawo i SprawiedliwoĹÄ od koĹca 2015 realizuje ĹwiadomÄ
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wiele konkretnych zadaĹ i programĂłw. Polityka ta wymaga w dalszych latach systemowej kontynuacji i rozwoju. Jej podstawowe zaĹoĹźenia obejmujÄ
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zek realnego mecenatu paĹstwa nad kulturÄ
i dziedzictwem
2196:"The Law and Justice party rejects researchers' conclusion that Poles were responsible for the 1941 Jedwabne pogrom in which hundreds of Jews were murdered, attributing it exclusively to Germans." This is sourced to At the Crossroadsâ: Jedwabne and Polish Historiography of the Holocaust
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1349:"Jedwabne Pogrom... is viewed as an attack on Polishness" -- the author really has problems with logic. I hate editing political articles, but I have to note that the colleague seems to raise his struggle with Polish neoconservatism in Knowledge (XXG) to nonencyclopedic levels.
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It could use improvement but it is a valid topic and meets DYK requirements. Ĺťuk's, Hackmann's, and Michlic's articles, published in academic journals, unambiguously state that the historical policy exists. Please feel free to expand or improve the article; I don't own it.
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Actually it's quite simple. Minor, irrelevant issue really. I checked Francois's edits, because he's a good editor who seems to be facing unjustified hostility these days and I landed here. There is no rule that would disallow me from commenting on disputes. Like here or
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Harper writes on PiS's "historical discourses" and historiographic "agenda", including specific examples such as Katyn and Jedwabne. Harper herself ties "discourse" with "policy" (pp. 31-32), which suggests to me that this is an integral part of the discussion.
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all communist collaborators who took part in repressions against Poles and waged power in the name of Moscow should be removed from cemeteries that are today national necropolises. So yeah, the claim that PiS sees Poles only as heroes is easily verified as
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There has been no meaningful progress since October, and Buidhe has been unable to respond to concerns in spite of activity elsewhere, as well as talk page notifications. Given the remaining article issues, this nomination is now marked for closure.
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and then come here and claim that this is part of some series of disputes. Uh, yeah, it is, if youâre following my edits around and trying to escalate every disagreement. But thatâs on you, and whatever brand new accounts show up to support it. Not
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another editor who has never edited this article before and who still yet has to explain how he came here. It sure is sketchy af. But there's nothing complicated or hard to understand about it. Another day on Knowledge (XXG). Same ol' same ol'.
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There's virtually zero other sources. Is this in any way relevant to Knowledge (XXG)? The article seems to be mix of statements and unrelated events thrown into one WP:SYNTH. I really think this has no merit, and probably should be deleted.
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require your kind approval to edit any topics that they might find interesting? They edit plenty of articles related to fascism, nazism, far-right politics etc., i.e. things that are directly connected with the PiS. Why so hostile then!?
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I know well what was and is with Jedwabne. I am saying that logic in your writing sucks, and you still do not see this. Please somebody else explain them or somebody explain me how a pogrom may be seen as an attack on Polishness.
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No one said that they invented the concept of politicizing history. Actually the article you cite supports the notability of the current article subject because it is almost entirely devoted to post-2015 policies applied by PiS.
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If sourcfes say they are part of the policy, then you have to say this in our article too. I am releating countless times: without such explicit statements the article looks like a random collection of events in Poland , i.e.,
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What reliable sources discuss this historical policy from a pro- perspective? (I could not find any in English). And how much weight do they have? Davies usually fits into the conservative camp but he is against this.
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I removed two sections because to connection is provided with "histotical policy" nor with the L&J party. In particular the Holocaust stuff started well before L&J, heck, before even Polish re-independence.
2020:? That generic phrase needs a redirect or a stub, to start with. This suggests that in addition so some neutrality issues, we may be dealing with OR-ish definition of the topic scope. And since you mentioned Zuk:
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I am feeling free to point at the inadequacies of the article. I am not at all going to be the mouthpiece of PiS. But it is as clear as a glass of Wyborowa, that this side is absent from article, hence the tag.
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not really a Pole but a communist puppet, etc. Hackmann notes that in the Ulma museum, "the policeman who presumably gave the hint to the hidden Jews, is questioned to be a Pole, because he was Greek Catholic".
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I don't think this is an accurate representation. As the statement you quote indicates, any Poles who do not behave the way they are supposed to are not "real Poles". This division has been noticed in research:
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I don't know what you mean? All aspects covered in this article (including those that you removed) are part of the topic according to reliable sources. Therefore, they are relevant and belong in the article.
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of heroic acts and undeserved victimhood, and never of criminal deeds." If it is just one sentence that is objected to, then applying neutrality tag to the entire article is inappropriate; I've removed it.
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voiced against the Polish nation,â and is understood as the âcentral attackâ on Polishness, Polish values and traditions, and Polish identity (understood in an ethnic sense)" 10.1080/23256249.2017.1376793
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for Jedwabne is an attack on Polishness, at least according to PiS. These historical facts are inconvenient, hence the claim (not supported by the available evidence) that Poles were not responsible...
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wszyscy komunistyczni kolaboranci, ktĂłrzy uczestniczyli w przeĹladowaniach PolakĂłw i sprawowali wĹadzÄ w imieniu Moskwy, powinni byÄ przeniesieni z cmentarzy, ktĂłre dzisiaj sÄ
narodowymi nekropoliami
2169:, Please open AfD if you believe it is not notable. I have already quoted ample sources on the article and in various other places which show that scholars analyze it as a coherent overall topic. (
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I agree with Staszek Lem here, the article seems like a mix of completely unrelated texts attacking PiS completely unrelated to any actual historical policy the party might or might not pursue.--
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P.S. in your edity summary you wrote "Add analysis if you like, but don't remove content". No, I am not going to add any analysis. It is your claim of relevance, you have to prove it, not me.
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actually trying to verify the content in the cited source. Since the article was just created it has undergone edits in the last few days but not beyond what is expected for a dyk article. (
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I fear none of this is helpful. I have asked an admin to take a look at this dispute. Again, I emphasise that this bickering is almost impossible for uninvolved users to understand. â
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As stated in the relevant guideline, "Tags must either be accompanied by a comment on the article's talk page explaining the problem and beginning a discussion on how to fix it". (
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for example. So are we really takking about "Historical policy of the Law and Justice party" or "Historical policy of the Law and Justice party and its allies", said allies being
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I removed the notability tag, because I found (and added) the ref which directly indicated at "historical policy" in the program of PiS. I see no tags about source reliability.
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No one doubts that many Poles were victims and/or heroes, but what differentiates this from a more balanced view of history is that the party rejects any more nuanced views (
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weight in the lead, since it would give undue prominence to what the party says about itself. If you would like to add a body section "Party platform", please go ahead. (
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rejects researchers' conclusion that Poles were responsible for the 1941 Jedwabne pogrom in which hundreds of Jews were murdered, attributing it exclusively to Germans.
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The article is fine. All I see is people who ignore reliable sources, and want to push content from PiS's website onto Knowledge (XXG). I opened a RfC to settle it:
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It says absolutely nothing like what the Knowledge (XXG) article claims. It does not say that Law and Justice "attributes Jedwabne pogrom exclusively to Germans"
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yes, youâre right you edited the article first. Still leaves open the question of how you found this article out of the blue. And you really need to stop making
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It's a bit of a technocality, but PiS (Law and Justice) is not a monolith, and the Polish government has been a coalition of PiS and some smaller offshots. See
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You see how a whole bunch of text is struck above? Do you know why? Youâre asking me to pretend that Iâm stupid and donât see whatâs right front of my face.
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I pretty much agree with Staszek on all counts. I am not very interested in defending the current Polish government, but the article is hardly neutral. --
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No, first section means first section. and I am not talking about quote. I could have copied the quote myself. There must be discussion of it someehere.
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The sentence you are complaining about has been rewritten. Are there any further complaints based on concrete issues, or is this a case of IDONTLIKEIT? (
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Transcript of extensive debate between scholars, activists, historians and journalists with Polish President on Strategy for Historical Policy in Poland
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It's an analysis of PiS's agenda after its first stint in power (2005-2007). We can move it to #Background along with another source from 2011.
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